― ailsa (ailsa), Friday, 23 January 2004 18:20 (twenty years ago) link
Oh well.
I just think they were in the right place at the right time.
Gold or beans? Definitely beans.
― Keith Watson (kmw), Friday, 23 January 2004 18:28 (twenty years ago) link
Also, in what sense, exactly, were they "indie"?? Certainly not in the label sense. And not in the music sense either, near as I can tell. I mean, they were a vaguely glammy guitar-pop band. Period - about as "indie" as the Black Crowes. And about as close to being the Beatles as the Crowes were to being the Stones, too. (So I could ask how they were "obnoxious," as well, but then again, I only listened to the music and never read the interviews, which might explain it.)
― chuck, Friday, 23 January 2004 19:30 (twenty years ago) link
― chuck, Friday, 23 January 2004 19:34 (twenty years ago) link
Steepest decline: Lauren Hill, Tricky, Prince or Stone Roses?
― chuck, Friday, 23 January 2004 19:38 (twenty years ago) link
And "Wonderwall" really is one of their worst songs I've never understood why it was their "breakthrough hit" in the US - certainly it was the only thing I ever heard on the radio. "Don't Look Back in Anger" was soooo much better.
― Shakey Mo Collier, Friday, 23 January 2004 19:44 (twenty years ago) link
― Jeanne Fury (Jeanne Fury), Friday, 23 January 2004 19:46 (twenty years ago) link
I've always noticed this prob. on ILM between the Brits and Americans...it's like America has this very defined idea of "indie" (usually a record label thing) and in England it's like....4 Guys....Guitar music....not heavy metal or mohawk-type straight up punk....It's Indie!
― M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Friday, 23 January 2004 20:06 (twenty years ago) link
Then again, if it is strictly about record labels, then Depeche Mode and New Order were "indie" bands.
― LondonLee (LondonLee), Friday, 23 January 2004 20:13 (twenty years ago) link
― latebloomer (latebloomer), Friday, 23 January 2004 20:18 (twenty years ago) link
― latebloomer (latebloomer), Friday, 23 January 2004 20:19 (twenty years ago) link
So are Third Eye Blind and Smashmouth indie too, then? (I forget if they had four guys, but they definitely fit the rest of your definition.)(I mean, it's taken me a while to understand the whole "indie is kind of music" rather than "indie is something on an indie label" line, but even the "kind of music" that people usually refer to as indie doesn't usually include plain old mainstream rock bands, right?) (Unless they're, I dunno, My Morning Jacket. Or the Drive By Truckers. Or the Kings of Leon. And so on. But that's NOW; back in the '90s indie kids HATED mainstream rock, I always thought.)
― chuck, Friday, 23 January 2004 20:33 (twenty years ago) link
― chuck, Friday, 23 January 2004 20:34 (twenty years ago) link
― stevem (blueski), Friday, 23 January 2004 20:41 (twenty years ago) link
― LondonLee (LondonLee), Friday, 23 January 2004 20:43 (twenty years ago) link
Well, sorta. The way it actually worked is that the band signed to Sony worldwide and *then* were licensed back to Creation.
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 23 January 2004 20:43 (twenty years ago) link
LET'S SETTLE THIS ONCE AND FOR ALL: Indie and all its subgenres (indie-rock, indie-dance, etc.) are NOT styles of music. They're a description of what commercial demographic you're marketing your records to, as well as if the companies that produce the records are owned by the five "majors" currently in existence. There's no such thing as indie in the musical sense, and that's why ILM has such a hard time describing indie: because it doesn't exist!
― Mr. Snrub (Mr. Snrub), Friday, 23 January 2004 20:46 (twenty years ago) link
― stevem (blueski), Friday, 23 January 2004 20:56 (twenty years ago) link
― Shakey Mo Collier, Friday, 23 January 2004 20:58 (twenty years ago) link
Yes you should. ;-) The first formal Sony/Creation deal on a labelwide level was late 1992, when Sony bought in for just under half of Creation.
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 23 January 2004 20:59 (twenty years ago) link
― chuck, Friday, 23 January 2004 21:03 (twenty years ago) link
― Llahtuos Kcin (Nick Southall), Friday, 23 January 2004 21:04 (twenty years ago) link
― Jeanne Fury (Jeanne Fury), Friday, 23 January 2004 21:08 (twenty years ago) link
― Jeanne Fury (Jeanne Fury), Friday, 23 January 2004 21:09 (twenty years ago) link
― chuck, Friday, 23 January 2004 21:10 (twenty years ago) link
Neither classic nor dud. They got some good suff and some real rubbish.
― Mr. Snrub (Mr. Snrub), Friday, 23 January 2004 21:39 (twenty years ago) link
― LondonLee (LondonLee), Friday, 23 January 2004 21:42 (twenty years ago) link
― Llahtuos Kcin (Nick Southall), Friday, 23 January 2004 21:43 (twenty years ago) link
― Curt1s St3ph3ns, Friday, 23 January 2004 22:15 (twenty years ago) link
― stevem (blueski), Friday, 23 January 2004 22:15 (twenty years ago) link
― Pashmina (Pashmina), Friday, 23 January 2004 22:24 (twenty years ago) link
Despite the short period of excellence, I've got to go "classic" because they were just SO HUGE from 1994-1996. That's a three year chunk of British music history that has to be viewed in the context of what Oasis were doing/saying/playing at the time, and that sort of dominance is rare in music.
― Barry Bruner (Barry Bruner), Friday, 23 January 2004 22:27 (twenty years ago) link
Then pretty dismayed to find that behind the sullen sneer they were the sort of boorish macho dullards I was crossing the street to avoid on my way home in Liverpool every night.
Classic for "Acquiesce"; Dud for most of the rest; Super-Dud for their contribution to "lad culture" and Beatles necrophilia.
― Snnap Dragon (snnap dragon), Friday, 23 January 2004 22:40 (twenty years ago) link
― robin (robin), Friday, 23 January 2004 23:15 (twenty years ago) link
There was a week in whatever year it came out that I thought Don't Look Back In Anger was the greatest song ever. Then I didn't. Now, I still have a soft spot for it, and a fair few other bits of theirs (Live Forever in particular). Plus Noel Gallagher usually seems to give very entertaining interviews, and does the whole personality crisis schtick (in his case usually manifested as "that last stuff we did was shit, but this is us back on form") a billion times better than Robbie fucking Williams.
Little By Little is very probably one of my least favourite songs ever, though, and lots of their stuff is just very dull. Some Might Say... dear god, no. So, yeah, neither classic nor dud, just somewhere in between.
― William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Friday, 23 January 2004 23:29 (twenty years ago) link
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Friday, 23 January 2004 23:32 (twenty years ago) link
― dr doom, Friday, 23 January 2004 23:33 (twenty years ago) link
― dr doom, Friday, 23 January 2004 23:35 (twenty years ago) link
How exactly were they "huge" (outside of England, I mean)? In the US, as I've written on other threads, they were just another okay band -- about as important as Third Eye Blind or Smashmouth or somebody.-- chuck (cedd...), January 23rd, 2004.
They are still huge in Mexico, as far as I could tell from last year. Must be the Anglophilia!
― Francis Watlington (Francis Watlington), Friday, 23 January 2004 23:39 (twenty years ago) link
― Francis Watlington (Francis Watlington), Friday, 23 January 2004 23:40 (twenty years ago) link
― dr doome, Friday, 23 January 2004 23:41 (twenty years ago) link
― Llahtuos Kcin (Nick Southall), Friday, 23 January 2004 23:42 (twenty years ago) link
― dr doom, Friday, 23 January 2004 23:43 (twenty years ago) link
The tunes - Inoffensive, if not entirely unoriginal. And overrated.The lyrics - Mostly shit.The image (if you care about that sort've thing) - Utterly boring."Personality" - Apart from the brothers incomprehensibly berating each other all the time (and that, too, got dull), the band has zero in the personality department....nicknames like "Bonehead" notwithstanding.Stage presence - Once again, apart from Liam acting like an ass, null & void.Album cover art - Yawnsome.Edge - Oft-touted, rarely displayed.Groove - Non-existant.
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Friday, 23 January 2004 23:46 (twenty years ago) link
― doom, Friday, 23 January 2004 23:49 (twenty years ago) link
So a score draw for me.
― Chris Jones (Crackity Jones), Friday, 23 January 2004 23:49 (twenty years ago) link
― Llahtuos Kcin (Nick Southall), Friday, 23 January 2004 23:49 (twenty years ago) link
― Dude (The Yellow Dart), Friday, 23 January 2004 23:50 (twenty years ago) link
― Dude (The Yellow Dart), Friday, 23 January 2004 23:51 (twenty years ago) link
when they opened up for neil young - and liam did 'morning glory' - that moment sold me on oasis as a live act.
― dr doome, Friday, 23 January 2004 23:52 (twenty years ago) link
"Definitely Maybe" is a fucking great album, and sounds nothing like the bullshit that followed it.
― res, Thursday, 28 August 2008 01:24 (fifteen years ago) link
overheard in the office just now:
"i love oasis." "they're just a bunch of fucking brits, man, that get mad at each other."
― (The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Monday, 26 January 2009 02:31 (fifteen years ago) link
fuckin love the man.
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_cMKwI6j-alg/SLVjawAgwOI/AAAAAAAAAM0/1jsKgDIsi8k/s400/omar-s.gif
― the table is the table, Monday, 26 January 2009 03:24 (fifteen years ago) link
I love 'em. Classic through and through. Not high-echelon classic like Beatles or Floyd, but second-echelon classic.
― Doctor Flange, Thursday, 5 September 2013 03:10 (ten years ago) link
http://www.youtube.com/watch?t=211&v=rfNqyjZcleI
― Van Horn Street, Sunday, 3 May 2015 00:26 (nine years ago) link
^ Oasis music video DVD commentary highlights, the best 10 minutes of my day.
― Van Horn Street, Sunday, 3 May 2015 00:27 (nine years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g-s3o-sbxYsJames Fry: Sons of the Stage, Oasis & other supernovas - First photo shoot of Oasis !!
― Madchister, Wednesday, 28 October 2015 13:12 (eight years ago) link
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CjU3PilUkAAcUiA.jpg
― DJP, Wednesday, 25 May 2016 19:40 (eight years ago) link
Made me laugh.
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 25 May 2016 19:53 (eight years ago) link
Liam's bitter at the fact that without his brother he's managed to achieve less than fuck all, and Noel's apparently meant to be the lazy one!
― Turrican, Wednesday, 25 May 2016 19:53 (eight years ago) link
not fair dude liam is the owner of a popular clothing line for twats
― benzarro ghazarri (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 25 May 2016 20:04 (eight years ago) link
lol
― we can be heroes just for about 3.6 seconds (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 25 May 2016 20:06 (eight years ago) link
Definitely Maybe > (What's The Story) Morning Glory? > The better songs on Be Here Now > SWEET FUCK ALL > everything else.
― Turrican, Thursday, 26 May 2016 18:02 (eight years ago) link
Everything else > Oasis
― Larry 'Leg' Smith (Tom D.), Thursday, 26 May 2016 18:16 (eight years ago) link
they should have stuck with richard fearless for the production on their last album.
― mark e, Thursday, 26 May 2016 18:32 (eight years ago) link
omg this sky news inteview is like all time classic oasis bitching <3
http://www.nme.com/blogs/nme-blogs/best-bits-from-liam-gallaghers-supersonic-interview
― Pull your head on out your hippy haze (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 3 October 2016 16:16 (seven years ago) link
#potato
― Pull your head on out your hippy haze (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 3 October 2016 16:21 (seven years ago) link
The Q&A slowly descended into a farce
― chr1sb3singer, Monday, 3 October 2016 16:36 (seven years ago) link
For reference and posterity, this thread should probably have links to these:
Your music's shite it keeps me Polling all night: OASIS (ILM artist poll 78) --- Voting open until Sunday August 21, 2016POLL With It - OASIS (ILM artist poll #78) --- The results thread
― DOCTOR CAISNO, BYCREATIVELABBUS (Doctor Casino), Monday, 3 October 2016 16:39 (seven years ago) link
http://www.gstatic.com/tv/thumb/persons/68879/68879_v9_ba.jpg
― Vape Store (crüt), Sunday, 23 June 2019 19:46 (four years ago) link
Dud.
― Rolling Thunderdome Revue (PBKR), Sunday, 23 June 2019 19:55 (four years ago) link
What a catalog!.
― TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 14 July 2019 05:14 (four years ago) link
I always thought "Stand by me" copped a bit from REO Speedwagon's "Take it on the run". I remember reading somewhere that the first album Noel bought was an REO Speedwagon album. "Take it on the run" is a far superior song obv
― . (Michael B), Sunday, 14 July 2019 10:20 (four years ago) link
Swap "champagne supernova" with "d'you know what I mean?" and your list would be reasonably otm
― . (Michael B), Sunday, 14 July 2019 11:30 (four years ago) link
i dreamt that stephen merchant of the ricky gervais show beat me to scoring some price reduced sea bass in tesco. and also that i gave liam and noel some cigarettes at an oasis reunion show in a theatre.
― maelin, Monday, 29 March 2021 21:31 (three years ago) link
Liam fell out of a helicopter
So check this out I fell out the helicopter last night you couldn’t rite it all good who said RnR is dead Keith moon eat your drum skin out C’mon you know LG x pic.twitter.com/MSVR1C6EXk— Liam Gallagher (@liamgallagher) September 18, 2021
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Saturday, 18 September 2021 15:20 (two years ago) link
legend
― brimstead, Saturday, 18 September 2021 16:36 (two years ago) link
"If this guy plays "Blackbird" one more time I'm going to lose it..."
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― scott seward, Thursday, 22 June 2023 20:57 (eleven months ago) link
so not gonna happen
― rick semper moranis (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 22 June 2023 21:51 (eleven months ago) link