http://www.ubu.com/sound/cardew.html
you guys should go. I wish I could go.
― (Jon L), Saturday, 16 October 2004 07:20 (nineteen years ago) link
ST GILES CRIPPLEGATE - Christian Wolff at 70Starts Friday, October 29 2004 at 7:30 PM
Dal Niente Projects and COMAChristian Wolff: Changing the System (1972-3)Cornelius Cardew: The Great Learning Paragraph 3 (1970-1)
― Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Friday, 29 October 2004 14:55 (nineteen years ago) link
according to the notes, paragraph 3 is:
1 page, for large instruments and voices, duration about 45 minutes, text: 'Things have their root and their branches, affairs have their end and their beginning. To know what is first and what is last will lead near to what is taught.'
― Stormy Davis (diamond), Friday, 29 October 2004 17:42 (nineteen years ago) link
christina wolff was first - for those who don't know 'changing the system' is for several groups of four (there were five for this performance - two groups of singers, two for percussion instruments and one for brass/percussion). I wz a bit late so it took me a while to get into it and seeing the logic from the random - not quite the kind of thing that could be performed at a concert hall (which I guess is the point) so the groups were spread round the church. The ending has those teasing silences that reminded me of the performance of 'for philip guston' that I attended earlier this year.
'Paragraph 3' sounded reminded me of Oliveros and totally diff from uncertanties of 'treatise', the COMA singers were not professional, anyone can take part and the thought that anyone could join this group (there's an email addy in the programme) made me all warm and fuzzy.
― Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Saturday, 30 October 2004 16:37 (nineteen years ago) link
― Dadaismus (Dada), Monday, 1 November 2004 15:16 (nineteen years ago) link
― xyzzzz__, Sunday, 15 April 2007 11:36 (seventeen years ago) link
shawn feeney's electronic realisation: https://vimeo.com/24759329
the actual score -- when animated -- always reminds me of the look of george dunning's yellow submarine
which reminds me (since it's where i first wrote that observation down) here's a little piece i wrote about it (pdf -- you have to scroll down) : http://www.soundmatters.org.uk/content/documents/exhibition-guide/CC_SM_guide.pdf
― mark s, Saturday, 13 August 2016 22:42 (seven years ago) link
and here's a version by the SYNTAX ensemble now the youtube embeds are sorted: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JMzIXxlwuCs
― mark s, Thursday, 18 August 2016 13:22 (seven years ago) link
Treatise: An Animated Analysis -- a fair proportion of which seems "state the bleedin obvious" to me, but perhaps i have been thinking about this object for too long
― mark s, Friday, 19 August 2016 12:52 (seven years ago) link
Takes me back to my slog through Tilbury's biog at the start of the year, I must pick it up again.
― Aw naw, no' Annoni oan an' aw noo (Tom D.), Friday, 19 August 2016 13:03 (seven years ago) link
i close-read a few sections for that "sound matters" catalogue piece and speedread the rest: i was actually constantly torn between "dude NO ONE needs to know this much abt xxx" and "i feel there is actually more to say here on this topic" (ie that someone not so caught up in and basically sympathetic to a lot of CC's odder stances might have a sharper perspective?)
i'm still glad the JT biog exists but blimey
― mark s, Friday, 19 August 2016 13:13 (seven years ago) link
Agree with all of that. JT not only sympathetic to CC's later wrongness but complicit in, of course.
― Aw naw, no' Annoni oan an' aw noo (Tom D.), Friday, 19 August 2016 13:22 (seven years ago) link