Nick Cave's Grinderman

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Interesting... Thanks!

― StanM (StanM), Sunday, 12 November 2006 06:45 (seventeen years ago) link

OM--what on earth are you talking about? That's what I suggested in the first place, when everyone else was talking about guitar solos. Do you have a bouzouki on that track? No? Then what are you on about?

― zach mercer (suizen), Sunday, 12 November 2006 10:29 (seventeen years ago) link

Fendocastor
Fendocastor
Fendocastor
Fendocastor

― H2-H4 (H2-H4), Sunday, 12 November 2006 10:35 (seventeen years ago) link

I would really like so much to hear this, but when I go to the myspace page, it keeps breaking up while it's playing, "buffering" etc. March is a long way away. We really have to wait that long for the album?

― Pump up the pumpkin, pump up the pumpkin dance dance (Bimble...), Sunday, 12 November 2006 16:04 (seventeen years ago) link

...so where's Ellis?

― occasional mongrel (kit brash), Monday, 13 November 2006 08:46 (seventeen years ago) link

It's floating around, as of a few hours ago. It's not quite as intense as an album as "No Pussy Blues," but it certainly is louder and more agressive generally than Cave and co. have been the last few years. There's some nice ballads on here, actually. Based on my one listen so far I like it a lot.

― Jouster (Jouster), Tuesday, 21 November 2006 11:10 (seventeen years ago) link

I'm a Grinderman in the pale moon, in the silver moonlight... yes, I'm the Grinderman 7 days a week in the pale moonlight, in the silver rain... yes, I'm the Grinderman anyway I can...

This is so much better than his last 3 or 4 albums. Who'd have thought it?

― David V (grammy), Tuesday, 21 November 2006 11:26 (seventeen years ago) link

suprised no one has mentioned the Ramones yet

― toe-foo (toe-foo), Tuesday, 21 November 2006 11:42 (seventeen years ago) link

I love track 11.

― StanM (StanM), Tuesday, 21 November 2006 11:52 (seventeen years ago) link

Er... so, what is a fendocastor then? Google it and you only get a couple of results, all about Warren Ellis in Grinderman and (fendocaster) "guy goes to a guitar shop, asks for a GibPaul FendoCaster. Man behind the counter: 'let me guess: you're a drummer' " type jokes.

It doesn't exist, is that it?

― StanM (StanM), Tuesday, 21 November 2006 12:52 (seventeen years ago) link

comparing the rest of the album to the goodies of "no pussy blues" is dissapointing
it's much quieter, and less pointy and accurate than that song.

― emekars (emekars), Tuesday, 21 November 2006 15:23 (seventeen years ago) link

What was the point then of getting rid of the Bad Seeds?

― is anyone anticipating the new Baaderonixx? (baaderonixx), Tuesday, 21 November 2006 15:24 (seventeen years ago) link

he didnt get rid of them.
it's a "side project" of sorts.

― emekars (emekars), Tuesday, 21 November 2006 15:28 (seventeen years ago) link

yeah, I know I know. I meant "temporarily dispense with"

― is anyone anticipating the new Baaderonixx? (baaderonixx), Tuesday, 21 November 2006 15:30 (seventeen years ago) link

well, it is kinda different in style and sound (though some of the songs themselvs are cave's regular stuff), and sometimes it has more "anger" on it.i'm not in nick cave's head, but the bad seeds were repeating themselvs more or less, and this one is a bit of a fresh air,than the usuall mick harvey production in the late 15 years or more.

― emekars (emekars), Tuesday, 21 November 2006 15:41 (seventeen years ago) link

Yeah, as much as I liked the last Bad Seeds lp, I felt it came much too late. I had already OD'ed of that sound. Looking forward to this, but I guess I'll be a fanboy and wait for the official release.

― is anyone anticipating the new Baaderonixx? (baaderonixx), Tuesday, 21 November 2006 16:03 (seventeen years ago) link

http://www.electrical.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=22204

"John Hillcoat is directing 2 music videos for Grinderman and people are needed to take part in London on 30th November. Ages 20's, 30's, 40's."

― My Koogy Weighs A Ton (koogs), Thursday, 23 November 2006 17:59 (seventeen years ago) link

"individuals with unique & idiosyncratic dancing styles appreciated"

Damn! Can't make it.

― Soukesian (Soukesian), Thursday, 23 November 2006 21:26 (seventeen years ago) link

I love this record! Nick Cave RULES!!!

― HUNTA-V (vahid), Friday, 24 November 2006 01:31 (seventeen years ago) link

two months pass...

no pussy blues video

― mookieproof (mookieproof), Thursday, 25 January 2007 20:59 (seventeen years ago) link

That's one hairy band and one hairy bass line.

― kwhitehead (stephen schmidt), Thursday, 25 January 2007 21:03 (seventeen years ago) link

damn.

― Emily Bjurnhjam (Emily Bjurnhjam), Thursday, 25 January 2007 22:04 (seventeen years ago) link

nick cave is a BADASS! woot!

― M@tt He1g3s0n: oh u mad cuz im stylin on u (Matt Helgeson), Thursday, 25 January 2007 22:15 (seventeen years ago) link

Nice. Reminds me a little of the Scientists.

― Soukesian (Soukesian), Thursday, 25 January 2007 22:23 (seventeen years ago) link

one month passes...

I saw the album at the store but didn't pick it up, because of conflicting reports. Has anyone heard it in full?

― baaderonixx, Friday, 2 March 2007 16:31 (seventeen years ago) link

i know the girl who makes out in the video.

― M@tt He1ges0n, Friday, 2 March 2007 16:32 (seventeen years ago) link

Damnit, this is out already? And I didn't look for it at the damn CD store today? ARRRRGH

― Bimble, Saturday, 3 March 2007 06:36 (seventeen years ago) link

It's not out yet. You are safe until April 10!

What a long leak!

― Whiney G. Weingarten, Saturday, 3 March 2007 06:43 (seventeen years ago) link

Oh, that makes me feel better. But you know what? They're all long leaks nowadays. It's despicable. I go into a shop looking for something I've already heard and know I want to buy and it's...not even there. Ridiculous.

― Bimble, Saturday, 3 March 2007 06:45 (seventeen years ago) link

This album is weak. "Grinderman"'s the best thing on it. Otherwise, it just seems same ol' same ol'.

― Capitaine Jay Vee, Saturday, 3 March 2007 09:55 (seventeen years ago) link

I'm thinking Tin Machine, I'm thinking garage band with a budget.

― moley, Saturday, 3 March 2007 10:38 (seventeen years ago) link

Tin Machine? That's harsh.

― Soukesian, Saturday, 3 March 2007 16:46 (seventeen years ago) link

And, I hope, uncalled for.

― Soukesian, Saturday, 3 March 2007 16:48 (seventeen years ago) link

Err, this is out, at least in continental Europe. I saw it in a big retail chain.

― baaderonixx, Monday, 5 March 2007 09:06 (seventeen years ago) link

It's out in Australia too.

― SeekAltRoute, Monday, 5 March 2007 09:23 (seventeen years ago) link

The song holds, like, totally unexpected promise until the first minute and 1/2. The guitar/noise thingy in the chorus is nice. The lyric's rubbish. Such gathering of facial hair per such short square metres is truly, utterly hideous. Promises to be even worse than Tin Machine. Looked afterwards for some Birthday Party stuff on YouTube. Much, much better hairstyles all around. Much, much better music too. Thanks for reminding me why I virtually stopped caring after Tender Prey.

― JML, Monday, 5 March 2007 16:02 (seventeen years ago) link

Yes, thank you (on the way back from the obligatory lunchtime headphone check in ye local Megastore); Tin Machine was exactly the comparison point I was looking for. At least the Stooges make no pretence about what they're doing in 2007 and why they're doing it.

Another £11.99 saved, then *ticks off spreadsheet*...

― Marcello Carlin, Monday, 5 March 2007 16:05 (seventeen years ago) link

buncha killjoys, you lot. i'm buying this RIGHT NOW. i love it. reductive nick cave is what i want to hear.

(i should maybe point out that i also liked tin machine, but that is neither here nor there.)

on a good day - no, really, stop laughing - i have a vague, passing, slight facial resemblance to nick cave. seeing him now, i really am considering growing that moustache back and to hell with the consquences (ie instant dumping by mrs f).

― grimly fiendish, Monday, 5 March 2007 17:02 (seventeen years ago) link

Well, I loved the single and I can't really see how the rest of the album would slide into ageing dad-rock, so maybe some people could say a few more words on how it sounds? Alternatively, of course, I could simply rush to my favorite p2p and shut up.

― baaderonixx, Monday, 5 March 2007 17:09 (seventeen years ago) link

okay, bought, listened ... nothing else on there is remotely as good as "no pussy blues". it's good, and it's fun, and it rocks, but it is ultimately kinda dispensable. next time i listen i'm going to do so at two or three times the volume.

but TBH what the fuck should one expect from a side project? entertaining grindy bluesy rock does it just fine for me.

― grimly fiendish, Monday, 5 March 2007 18:16 (seventeen years ago) link

Grinderman would have been much better if it had been the new Chico side project.

― Marcello Carlin, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 10:22 (seventeen years ago) link

i can't argue with that.

― grimly fiendish, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 20:16 (seventeen years ago) link

one month passes...

There are a few songs on this that I find really, oddly compelling. Sure the album starts with the promise of vitriol and doesn't deliver, but it depends on what style you're looking for or what you'll tolerate. A real mixed bag, even in lyrical quality. But it still seems to me I'm happier with some things on this album than I have been with his work since Boatman's Call which has proven to be the masterpiece he's likely never to match.

― Bimble, Saturday, 7 April 2007 06:07 (seventeen years ago) link

It's a pretty good album.

― admrl, Saturday, 7 April 2007 06:37 (seventeen years ago) link

three years pass...

Grinderman 2 and live dates on the way. You won't see a better poster than this all year:

http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc3/hs573.snc3/31247_394838113510_308277788510_4225809_927805_n.jpg

― Position Position, Tuesday, 25 May 2010 19:08 (fourteen years ago) link

Ellis told The Quietus:

"It’s kind of like stoner rock meets Sly Stone via Amon Duul. It’s very diverse, and there’s a lot of stuff on there that doesn’t sound like anything we’ve done before. Nick’s got a different thing going on with the lyrics than he would have from the Bad Seeds, and he’s found a new thing from the first album. Less sex? I wouldn’t say that. It’s psychedelic, and I think it’s great. We’re really excited about it."

― BLOODY BOLLOCKS HELL! (aldo), Tuesday, 25 May 2010 19:13 (fourteen years ago) link

Really, really excited.

The first album was awesome.

― I just wish he hadn't adopted the "ilxor" moniker (ilxor), Tuesday, 25 May 2010 19:24 (fourteen years ago) link

I totally gave up on Nick Cave at this point and didn't find the previous G-Man partic interesting but ... "Sly Stone via Amon Duul"? Hmmmm....

― licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Wednesday, 26 May 2010 08:14 (fourteen years ago) link

three weeks pass...

holy shit at this little wolf video album trailer thing

http://www.grinderman.com/

― del griffith, Monday, 21 June 2010 15:19 (thirteen years ago) link

that just will not load.

― Simon H., Monday, 21 June 2010 15:26 (thirteen years ago) link

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I'm just grinder man, y'all never mind me

― ☞ ☹ (markers), Monday, 20 September 2010 15:46 (thirteen years ago) link

Here is the gorgeous Nick Cave with his rabbit Fluffy:

http://mog1.state51.co.uk/tid/3d963eca0c73ddf4e16b0e32be22b53bcebd9e4a/eehbgui/hoifjumcc/1576770000054.jpeg

― ilxor has truly been got at and become an ILXor (ilxor), Thursday, 23 September 2010 13:37 (thirteen years ago) link

Mo bunny blues?

― Gerald McBoing-Boing, Thursday, 23 September 2010 17:42 (thirteen years ago) link

"Have you seen how Bunny's purring?"

― Duran (Doran), Thursday, 23 September 2010 18:59 (thirteen years ago) link

I love that he's also toting an extremely dorky looking canvas shopping bag, like he's returning from Trader Joe's.

I've been surprised/amused to see some fairly huffy reviews in The Wire and NME about Grinderman's "boring misogyny." Does one really need to be familiar with his body of work going back to The Birthday Party to appreciate the humor in Grinderman?

― Fastnbulbous, Thursday, 23 September 2010 19:35 (thirteen years ago) link

mate, worm tamer is actually awesome. His voice managed to not piss me of like it does with post BP stuff.

― owenf, Friday, 24 September 2010 12:55 (thirteen years ago) link

an extremely dorky looking canvas shopping bag

That is a Current 93 shopping bag, the picture is from their most recent mailout.

― margana (anagram), Friday, 24 September 2010 13:34 (thirteen years ago) link

Uhh guys, I just picked up Grinderman 2 this afternoon... and it FUCKING SLAYS.

― ilxor has truly been got at and become an ILXor (ilxor), Saturday, 25 September 2010 00:05 (thirteen years ago) link

everything ilxor just said can also be said for myself.

― surfboard dudes get wiped out, totally, Monday, 27 September 2010 16:52 (thirteen years ago) link

man this rules

― The Black NAGL's Death Thong (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 27 September 2010 21:45 (thirteen years ago) link

nick is hilarious on this record! also like 65 percent of this seems to be nick trying to talk housewives into fucking him

― The Black NAGL's Death Thong (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 28 September 2010 15:58 (thirteen years ago) link

From Glasgow Barrowlands on Tuesday night...

http://krakow.zenfolio.com/img/s10/v18/p595028631-3.jpg

The live experience got a thumbs up from me, even if it was a frantic pain to shoot.

― krakow, Wednesday, 29 September 2010 23:58 (thirteen years ago) link

he's awful close to that masturbating caveman

― she's one intense bitch, she rides a unicycle (arby's), Thursday, 30 September 2010 00:02 (thirteen years ago) link

Nick really doesn't like the look of Ellis' instrument either.

Caption competition!

― krakow, Thursday, 30 September 2010 00:06 (thirteen years ago) link

I AM SO FUCKING PUMPED UP FOR THIS SHOW

― da poupier (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 13 October 2010 20:52 (thirteen years ago) link

i still haven't heard either of these records! how did that happen, i'd probably like them. tho i always feel like the odd man out in that i like cave's brooding piano ballad thang, too.

― tylerw, Wednesday, 13 October 2010 20:59 (thirteen years ago) link

nah man i love that stuff too, nick is awesome but yeah grinderman smokes

― da poupier (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 13 October 2010 21:00 (thirteen years ago) link

one month passes...

going to see the show tonight super duper excited

― there was usic in the cafes at night (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 23 November 2010 18:22 (thirteen years ago) link

basically, fuck every other rock band you could see live right now, if grinderman comes to your city you need to go.

some horny old men making crazy noise...nick was inspirational, never seen him before....so funny and rock godlike.

― there was usic in the cafes at night (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 24 November 2010 15:57 (thirteen years ago) link

warren ellis was doing really bad things to his guitar...he totally looks like a manical manson version of late period gone-to-seed richard manuel (like last waltz era)...the bassist looks like the dude from sexy beast when he plays nicholson's capo in the departed

― there was usic in the cafes at night (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 24 November 2010 16:00 (thirteen years ago) link

fuuuuuuck, i thought about going

― BIG MUFFIN (gbx), Wednesday, 24 November 2010 16:01 (thirteen years ago) link

yeah, cave is one of those guys who just owns the stage. saw him w/ the bad seeds a couple years back and he killed. would definitely go see grinderman if they were playing near me.

― tylerw, Wednesday, 24 November 2010 16:14 (thirteen years ago) link

two weeks pass...

Grinderman 2 might be my favorite album of the year. Loud, obnoxious, funny, scary, catchy, noisy.

― congratulations (n/a), Monday, 13 December 2010 22:49 (thirteen years ago) link

It's the sound of frustrated middle-aged men giving it their all one last time. That's fresher than the umpteenth love song from where I stand...

― Gerald McBoing-Boing, Tuesday, 14 December 2010 01:49 (thirteen years ago) link

yeah, it might be my favorite of the year, too (along with gil scott heron; good year for middle-aged angst, i guess).

there's such a ferocious, menacing sexual vibe over the whole album. it's like steely dan got turned down by every girl they hit on in the gaucho era, and turned aggressive/borderline violent.

― Daniel, Esq., Tuesday, 14 December 2010 01:53 (thirteen years ago) link

gotta see if someone nominated worm tamer for track of the year. i forgot to, but it's in my top five for 2010.

― Daniel, Esq., Tuesday, 14 December 2010 02:00 (thirteen years ago) link

four years pass...

can anyone tell me if the RMX EP is worth getting?

― Jimmywine Dyspeptic, Saturday, 20 December 2014 22:33 (nine years ago) link

two years pass...

Enjoying this today:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nxqlb1--uKc

― Eazy, Wednesday, 6 September 2017 21:28 (six years ago) link

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