John Cale S/D

weird I run the same OS, but I have a much older version of xACT, guess I better not update it.

These are great, btw. Love hearing this material with decent sound. The version of "Fear" on Dallas is absolutely bonkers and fantastic. "Chorale" I've never heard -- love the harmonica.

I always thought this would be a fascinating era to write about. I think it was inspired by reading some review of Sabotage somewhere (Trouser Press Record Guide maybe?) that basically said that by the time that record came out Cale's schtick had become something of a parody of itself -- that his music had taken on a heavy metal sound and that the real deal was what he was doing in '77-78, a lot of which (a la "Fucking the Neighbor's Wife" and "Dance of the Seven Veils") never came out on the studio records. Just kind of a "mythical" era in some ways.

Thankig u

sleeve many thanks for these!

here's to Mr. X:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TYHIqMmtS-0

Wow.

Only a matter of time for that Marvin/Tammi show performance to turn up?

I did see that Pete Best one (have it on a bootvhs), but that's for another thread...

ach, go on then...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ToLZewcgIK8

thanks, sleeve!

oh and hey Gerald -- is Cale's version of Frozen Warnings available anywhere? is there a sdtk for that movie? i feel like i had an mp3 of that song but it was just recorded directly off a vhs copy or something.

I don't think it's available, I got it from a vid too!

gonna check out that German live album. circa when, 1982? I saw the Sabotage tour in '79 and it was indeed awesome, metal guitar player but the rest of the band was punky & Cale was a glowering PRESENCE.

never heard cale's 1975 peel sesh til now -- great performance and sound quality! wonder why this has never been released? fruitierthanthou.blogspot.com/2010/10/john-cale-john-peel-session-1st-may.html

posted this on a john cale thread on some board called de subjectiven or some shit. meant for it to be on ILM.
new ep on domino forthcoming! preview clip sounds ... kind of great? http://www.dominorecordco.com/uk/landingpage/15-07-11/john-cale-extra-playful-ep

I haven't heard his last few albums in full (just bits) but this is decidedly the best thing I've heard from him in 20 years!

yeah me too, i've always meant to check out his more recent albums, but just haven't. this is really promising.

did just listen to music for a new society this morning. what a brutal album.

I enjoyed the Circus Live disc from a few years back. It had a couple of cuts from the recent records and they fit in well.

This preview though sounds really great.

hobosapiens is good.

and that '5 tracks' ep.

"Outta the Bag", the first cut on Black Acetate, has Cale pulling his finest Prince impression. Stunningly great.

There's a lot of live stuff around from '79 and thereabouts where the band have a nearly Television-y guitar interplay and is playing a broad range of his music. That includes VU, Fear, Animal Rights etc etc.
Would try to see what you can find of that stuff. I'd recommend it anyway.

yeah sleeve posted a couple great late 70s shows over yonder: http://shardsofbeauty.blogspot.com/2011/01/john-cale-live-in-late-70s-got-my.html

Isn't Cowgirls semi legit if it's ROIR? Haven't heard about that getting a remaster like some of the other stuff from the label. Think I have it on Danceteria which might mean it's a boot of something more legit. Not sure about that label beyond them doing early cd versions of ROIR stuff.

ECGRB's problem isn't that it wasn't mastered properly -- it's that it was recorded poorly. Which is too bad bc the performances and songs are great.

New EP streaming here:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/music/musicblog/2011/sep/14/john-cale-extra-playful-stream

cool, this is great. one of those older guys who hasn't lost his voice (looking in your direction, Lou). vocals here sound like they could be from 30 years ago.

is that fripp soloing on whaddaya mean by that? ha, probably not. but sounds a bit like him.

Very true. Two songs in and it's pretty enjoyable so far.

xp yes, the Frippy bit! Like the St Elmo's Fire sound.

lol autotuned French tune is pretty wild. "Extra Playful," indeed.

Cheesey sleaze funk of 'Perfection' is amusing too.

But, um, in total I'm not sure this adds up to anything much.

yeah, first two songs are definitely the highlights -- other tracks are fun, but not amazing. still, makes me optimistic for the forthcoming album.

Yep, agree with all that.

lol at him vocoding the french song to hide his pronunciation

"Smelling like an old adobe woman..."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yRU1oAfGEU0&feature=player_embedded

cool video, ill-advised soul patch notwithstanding. really like this song.

good song, thanks for posting that! his voice is so great. and yes, the soul-patch has gotta go.

yeah very nice! great synth sounds. so wish MegaCale was happening

what's MegaCale?

the new Megadeth + John Cale collab

haha i am so glad we invented the Megadeth + John Cale collab on the other thread

if we talk about it enough, it will become reality

Well he's already done Church of Anthrax I guess.

Honi ...So What!

lol

I'm still holding out for the CaleRush album, Paris 2112

Ha. And ha at MegaCale, which I missed on the other thread

this looks kinda rad
http://www.dustygroove.com/images/products/c/cale_john~~_conflictc_101b.jpg
A nicely done tribute to John Cale's production work – from the late 60s era with the Velvets onward to the mid 00s – quite representative of his reach and diversity as a producer! Includes a few of his most legendary productions – art rock genius from The Velvet Underground & Nico, willfully crass primitivism from The Stooges, punk poetry from Patti Smith and more. Also fascinating is the wealth of wildly divergent styles he produced much later – for The Happy Mondays, Jesus Lizard, Alejandro Escovedo and others. 20 tracks: "Venus In Fur" by The Velvet Underground, "I Wanna Be Your Dog" by The Stooges, "Pablo Picasso" by The Modern Lovers, "Afraid" by Nico, "Disco Clone" by Cristina, "Italian Sea" by Chunky, Novi & Ernie, "Sex Master" by Squeeze, "Kuff Dam" by Happy Mondays, Tearing Apart" by Siouxsie & The Banshees, "Spinning Away" by Eno/Cale, "In Excelsis Deo/Gloria" by Patti Smith and more.

huh, I didn't know he produced Squeeze!