lil wayne is annoying

well my argument has been that the latter has begot the former

hear enough bad ideas w/ the same vocal tone & u start to associate them

lol this is getting into "it's not you, it's me" costanza rap criticism territory

I WAS IN THE POOL

lol j0

Anyone defending Wayne in 2008 had to contend with a cavalcade of bad ideas.

& the same ppl are still defending him three years later

― J0rdan S., Sunday, 30 January 2011 06:17 (Yesterday) Permalink

yeah i feel like people need to take a long hard look at his post-Carter 3 output, which maybe has been treated with soft expectations because none of it was labeled "Carter 4"

― some dude, Sunday, 30 January 2011 13:25 (Yesterday)

As usual you guys are OTM, but I'll try to defend Wayne anyway. That VV article highlights Wayne's missteps, but goes onto say "those bad ideas were always inextricable from the whole." Wayne has many strengths, but consistency has never been one of them. Even The Carter II was overstuffed with crappy reggae tracks that everybody ignores. During his critical ascent, much of Wayne's appeal was that he was taking risks other rappers weren't. That meant he hit some remarkable highs, but also misfired a lot. I was OK with that; at least he was usually attempting something interesting.

Of course, Wayne's risk are a lot less novel than they were just three or four years ago. But since his approach has always been hit or miss, I'm more willing to give him the benefit of the doubt when a project back fires. I can excuse even Rebirth, because at least he was attempting something risky (and as awful as that album is as a whole, there are a handful of tracks so enthusiastic and genuine on that album that I can't help but like). I Am Not a Human Being was a better album than Rebirth, but in a way a more disappointing one, since it played it so safe, coasting on recycled ideas. I'd rather see Wayne fall flat on his face 90% of the time and strike gold 10% than become a Fabolous or a Jadakiss, turning in good enough verses and calling it a day.

Al is very right about fans softening their expectations for his recent releases. Since Carter 3, he's put out a guaranteed-to-be-awful rock album and a collection of pre-prison leftovers. Both were disappointing by Tha Carter III's standards, but you can't accuse either of false advertising. So I'm definitely waiting to hear Tha Carter 4 before I write him off.

fuck this guy, stupid packers fan

Even The Carter II was overstuffed with crappy reggae tracks that everybody ignores.
― Evan R, Sunday, January 30, 2011 10:50 PM (4 days ago) Bookmark

"Mo Fire" is awesome.

yeah C2 is not perfect but the reggae stuff is not a minus at all imo

when i poop on AJ hawk's mullet, that's stuntin

If anything, C2 suffers from puttering out at the end, where it loses steam.

But that's what happens when your album is 18-20 songs long.

i think the only prob w/ it was the cheese-metal guitars on some tracks

those are still downright tasteful compared to the Rebirth era, though. and "Best Rapper Alive" is great.

he's a PACKERS fan, i'mma bill magill this motherfucker!

Dude needs to just vanish

his vow to retire after at least 2 more albums is so cruel

he can make as many albums as he likes as long as the guest verses stop

there is that louis ck line about britney spears, how she was the last time he kinda knew what young people were into, & he's like she was twenty one then but we're the same age now, like she caught up, now we're both 44. & it's so weird, i remember thinking about wayne & being like whoa he's only twenty six. but now it's like there are all of these distinct eras that have elapsed, like he's released like ten records that are all terrible in different & distinct ways, a guitar record, another rap record, it's like the carter IX now, there are tapes, he's served like six years in jail in the past two years. i can't keep up.

he can make as many albums as he likes as long as the guest verses stop

― tpp, Wednesday, November 28, 2012 7:51 AM (3 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

the problem w/ this plan is any song he could do and doesn't, they get drake instead

"when lil wayne verse stop, very bad..."

I'm not as down on Wayne as some of the people here, but has he had even one great (or great-ish?) verse this year? Very depressing, especially when you consider how many at bats he's had

Lollipop & A Milli are classic, rest not even worth thinking abt

haha

feeling that pov tbh

so looks like he's still in a coma......anyone know what it feels like to go on a codeine binge/be a longterm codeine addict?

not to be callous but are there any guys who had a serious habit for a long time and lived longer than dj screw/pimp c/big moe/etc.?

https://twitter.com/search?q=lil%20wayne%20little%20seizures&src=typd

#comedy #jokes

yeah i was wondering the same thing. seems like a very sure path to death.

xp al

I'm starting to wonder if this was a failed suicide attempt.

i dunno doesn't seem very in line with the impressions i've always gotten of him as just a straight up self destructive addict

http://m.pitchfork.com/news/49995-lil-wayne-reportedly-still-in-intensive-care/

Surprised by how little attention this is getting now. Wayne got a ton of press for reportedly being on his death bed, but then when he survived everybody moved on even though by most accounts he's still in critical condition.

Feels like this is definitely going to be a big turning point in his career and in his life if he survives

yeah maybe. i mean he's been acting like he wants to retire for years now, maybe this will be what gets him to actually do that and chill out for a while.

it does seem like kind of a muted press response, like not much greater than when he hurt himself skateboarding or whatever.

not really that surprised by lack of attention since everybody in wayne's camp is keeping mum and nobody wants to pull a tmz

yeah tmz's the only one doing any reporting so there really isn't much news

Maybe it's because of the death scare, or maybe it's just the lack of available information, but on some level I think this is being brushed off. If this were any other recording artist of Wayne's stature I think there'd be much more aggressive media coverage. Imagine if T-Swift or even Eminem or Kanye were in a coma for four days

plus Ross had his bout of seizures a while back that he was able to play off as nothing and so far nothing else major has happened with him so there's a little bit of 'oh this is just something that happens with rappers now i guess'

i mean i guess the lack of solid confirmation of the coma is the major thing. but just being in ICU for that long for any reason seems pretty significant.

he's just resting, nbd

Bigger issue may be, as Jordan mentioned, TMZ is the only one reporting this stuff. I understand it's an unseemly beat, but it shouldn't be the exclusive domain of one not-always reputable news outlet

"Resting"

yeah well the only sources anyone else has are people in wayne's camp, who are saying he's fine. tmz are the only ones w/ moles inside LA hospitals.

i don't think that anyone really believes anyone right now which is why the tone of this is now "who knows what's going on, i guess we'll just wait until wayne says something"

The GQ piece about him a couple years ago was very Truman Show, in a bad way

yo, tone loc had a seizure, too :(

:(

XXL quotes Mack Maine as saying "He's in the hospital regularly," to which XXL added, in brackets "[not ICU]". That would contradict TMZ's report from earlier today that Wayne is still in intensive care.

Mack Maine continued, "I can't really give a comment on his situation right now 'cus we're not really sure, we're just standing by him right now. Like I said, he's in recovery as far as we know, so we're just sitting back, just waiting until he's come fully recovered before we can give a statement."

seems legit

Any word on what this means for I Am Not a Human Being 2? (His publicists, not surprisingly, aren't responding to my inquiries).