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Seems only Britishers (or Anglophiles) think that the Sinead version is better than the Prince live version.

A Scanner Snarkly (Steve Shasta), Sunday, 27 February 2011 16:02 (thirteen years ago) link

it was a big thing in "britain"*. i do prefer it.

*i am from scotland and of latin american extraction and do not identify as british. tho aye a a brit cunt tbh.

À la recherche du temps Pardew (jim in glasgow), Sunday, 27 February 2011 16:04 (thirteen years ago) link

Prince's live version is good, and it's definitely better than original version by the Family. But the Sinead version is still way better.

I'm Finnish, by the way, and a huge Prince fan in general, but I've no problem admitting that occasionally some artists can make a Prince song better than he himself did (see also: "I Feel For You").

Tuomas, Sunday, 27 February 2011 16:14 (thirteen years ago) link

Yeah, Sinead's is better. Duh.

banjee trillness (The Reverend), Sunday, 27 February 2011 21:44 (thirteen years ago) link

I think it's funny that the original poster speaks of the Prince version as if he was some passerby who heard Sinead's version and wrote a low-key cover of it for a Greatest Hits collection, and not someone that, you know, wrote and ORIGINALLY performed the song....

except that Prince did hear Sinead's version and recorded a low-key cover of it for the b-sides disc of his 3-CD hits collection, and didn't ORIGINALLY perform the song

FACED, Cyberdune Butt

Emilio Estevez commits fratricide (sic), Sunday, 27 February 2011 23:13 (thirteen years ago) link

Yeah, it seems kinda obvious Prince put his live version on the Hits collection because he was a bit jealous that Sinead managed to make the song a hit, while the Family album was mostly a flop.

Tuomas, Monday, 28 February 2011 07:32 (thirteen years ago) link

there's a demo of him doing it isn't there? so yknow techincally i guess he did perform it first.

Susannah looks great on the cover dun she?

piscesx, Monday, 28 February 2011 07:58 (thirteen years ago) link

i dont think ive ever heard prince do this in a low key way. he always makes it into a big melodramatic thing.

titchy (titchyschneiderMk2), Monday, 28 February 2011 10:30 (thirteen years ago) link

"Overblown", lol. Can you imagine Celine Dion, Xtina Aguilera or Meat Loaf going crazy on its ass?

What Sinead does beautifully here is a combination of exquisite tenderness, with occasional bursts of that shrill, slightly sharp tone (that's all over, say, Mandinka), but then pulling back from that again to softness, so sonically as well as emotionally it's unpredictable - when will it burst out again? Exactly like the emotion of loss/grief in question in the song - it hits you unexpectedly sharply and painfully and dies down again, against a background of general sorrow and hurt.

That strident tone was really something new in pop vocal style I think. Only maybe Suzie Sioux and Liz Frazer as far as I know had done that tone before Sinead, but they were more marginal figures, especially in the US, and didn't apply it to a love song in this way. (I know Sinead said the famous tears in the video were for her dead mother; not sure if that affected her recording?) Sadly I don't think Sinead did anything very good after this though.

superflyguy, Tuesday, 1 March 2011 12:56 (thirteen years ago) link

^straight pyromania

banjee trillness (The Reverend), Tuesday, 1 March 2011 13:09 (thirteen years ago) link

three years pass...

Like many upthread, I wasn't old enough to really have any specific feelings about this song at the time - it was on Now 18 which I had as a ten year old, but I rarely played it through. Recently though I've been thinking about it. The Quietus have had a recent run of quite interesting articles about songs that make you cry. Manipulative as it is, this is one of those which even when I think about it gives me a strange shivery sensation.
The economy of language, devastating lines like "I know that living with you baby was sometimes hard, but I'm willing to give it another try" seem to pack a lot more than they do on paper.

inside out trousers (dog latin), Friday, 7 March 2014 10:18 (ten years ago) link

Her version of 'all apologies' is nice, too. Not better than the original, but quiet and plaintive. Really nails the 'married, buried' part.

LimbsKing, Friday, 7 March 2014 12:39 (ten years ago) link

two years pass...

I vastly prefer Sinead's version to Prince's.

WHERE'S JIM!? (Turrican), Sunday, 24 April 2016 08:28 (eight years ago) link

Prince's released (never heard a demo of his if there is ine in circulation) versions all miss the point of the song. Rosie Gaines is also not the right person for the job.

StillAdvance, Sunday, 24 April 2016 09:18 (eight years ago) link

right on

Treeship, Sunday, 24 April 2016 16:04 (eight years ago) link

I like the choir-like backing vocals, gives it a very Irish and religious feel. Like Sinead's Irish-punk take on soul, always did. Be stupid if she tried to sound black, she brought her own background to the song.

Fake Sam's Club (I M Losted), Sunday, 24 April 2016 16:59 (eight years ago) link

Apparently, it's not available on spotify (Sinead's version, I mean). Part of Prince's online policy ?
That's weird since there are other Prince songs by other artists available (Bangles, Times, Chaka Khan...).

AlXTC from Paris, Monday, 25 April 2016 11:37 (eight years ago) link

Theres a live version on there. But yeah its bc of prince's policy of not cooperating with streaming services

Treeship, Monday, 25 April 2016 13:34 (eight years ago) link

I think this song was a collaboration not a cover so thats why prince retained the rights

Treeship, Monday, 25 April 2016 13:35 (eight years ago) link

I really don't like the official Prince version, and consider it a rare misstep, as if, after Sinead's massive, definitive success and their subsequent falling out he felt compelled to show the world "oh yeah, well check *this* out." And then it's a big whiff compared to hers.

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 25 April 2016 13:44 (eight years ago) link

What do you mean ? Wasn't it a cover ? and I guess he had the rights to other songs that are yet available (the previous ones, also sheila e. stuff).

AlXTC from Paris, Monday, 25 April 2016 13:44 (eight years ago) link

(xpost)

AlXTC from Paris, Monday, 25 April 2016 13:44 (eight years ago) link

Speaking about her relationship with Prince in an interview with Norwegian station NRK in November 2014 O'Connor said, "I did meet him a couple of times. We didn't get on at all. In fact, we had a punch-up." She continued: "He summoned me to his house after 'Nothing Compares 2 U.' I made it without him. I'd never met him. He summoned me to his house—and it's foolish to do this to an Irish woman—he said he didn't like me saying bad words in interviews. So I told him to fuck off." O'Connor said: "He got quite violent. I had to escape out of his house at five in the morning. He packed a bigger punch than mine."

ejemplo (crüt), Monday, 25 April 2016 13:47 (eight years ago) link

wow. that's pretty crazy !

AlXTC from Paris, Monday, 25 April 2016 13:50 (eight years ago) link

Jesus

Treeship, Monday, 25 April 2016 15:38 (eight years ago) link

i want to do this song at karaoke

Treeship, Monday, 25 April 2016 15:40 (eight years ago) link

Any song where you can seriously belt it out is perfect for karaoke

Treeship, Monday, 25 April 2016 15:40 (eight years ago) link

except that when you're drunk (which is condition sine qua non for me to do karaoke), you're pretty sure to miss all the high notes !

AlXTC from Paris, Monday, 25 April 2016 15:43 (eight years ago) link

Lol no one could even approach the original though. Almost takes the pressure off.

Treeship, Monday, 25 April 2016 15:46 (eight years ago) link

you could make up for the bum notes by crying by the end of the song !

AlXTC from Paris, Monday, 25 April 2016 15:48 (eight years ago) link

Nothing Compares to Sinead

Treeship, Monday, 25 April 2016 15:49 (eight years ago) link

Lol yeah. I'm sure my rendition will affect me powerfully, regardless of what the crowd would make of it

Treeship, Monday, 25 April 2016 15:50 (eight years ago) link

I was always curious about Sinead came by that song - was she really one of the 200 people that bought that album by the Family

Οὖτις, Monday, 25 April 2016 15:56 (eight years ago) link

good question !
I found this "It was Sinéad O'Connor's manager, Fachtna O'Kelly, who came up with the idea for the Irish singer to cover the Prince song."

AlXTC from Paris, Monday, 25 April 2016 16:03 (eight years ago) link

I briefly considered this for karaoke on Saturday night, only because I had been refusing to attempt Prince for months, because how could I even presume, so I was thinking Manic Monday or this, which is still tough but I remember getting compliments for my diva-like performance of it in 1991(!) at my 12th birthday party (yeah, the oldest I got compliments for that sort of behaviour), but I don't have that range anymore so I chickened out. I said I'd do Poplife but it wasn't on there, I got roped into backing vocals on Purple Rain, didn't do myself too proud really.

Jonathan Hellion Mumble, Monday, 25 April 2016 20:51 (eight years ago) link

there's been very little "here's the shitty stuff Prince did" since his death; wondering when that will start to slip out. the only negative story I could remember (aside from him maybe personally being a dick to people) was that violent story Sinead recalled. Wonder what the story behind that is.

akm, Monday, 25 April 2016 21:13 (eight years ago) link

it's a weird story

Treeship, Monday, 25 April 2016 22:06 (eight years ago) link

it's probably true though, idk. i can't imagine those two would ever get along.

Treeship, Monday, 25 April 2016 22:18 (eight years ago) link

so the version on the hits cd kinda sucks yah but if you saw p perform this in the 2014/2015 tour (he sang it all himself with mellotron backing) then that would be your choice version trust me. fuck it maybe ill put up a version on youtube.

kurt schwitterz, Monday, 25 April 2016 23:37 (eight years ago) link

he sang this at the piano last month when I saw him and it was great. he's fully capable of doing great versions of the song, it's too bad he never officially recorded one.

akm, Monday, 25 April 2016 23:47 (eight years ago) link

there's been very little "here's the shitty stuff Prince did" since his death; wondering when that will start to slip out. the only negative story I could remember (aside from him maybe personally being a dick to people) was that violent story Sinead recalled. Wonder what the story behind that is.

― akm, Monday, April 25, 2016 5:13 PM (2 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

once the details of his speed & opiate addiction start to appear i'm sure there will be all sorts of tell-alls. Surprised that this interview with his alleged dealer hasn't been posted in any thread yet: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3555292/Prince-s-former-drug-dealer-reveals-extent-addiction.html

flappy bird, Monday, 25 April 2016 23:47 (eight years ago) link

sinead o'connor is (like prince himself) a bit of a loon and a fabulist, so i'm not sure we should take her story at face value.

wizzz! (amateurist), Tuesday, 26 April 2016 02:05 (eight years ago) link

two weeks pass...

Over the last few days I've been positively haunted by this song. At the time in 1990, I had a hard time engaging with it ... the song and video were absolutely everywhere, the beat was strident and a bit plodding, and it was generally difficult to see past the cult of personality around Sinead. But 26 years (gah) later, this sounds to me like an absolute gem of a gospel tune -- and is just wrenching in the wake of Prince's death and what increasingly sounds like a lonely existence.

That said, before I go and call this one of Prince's best songs, I actually wonder a bit how much of the credit for her version should go to him. The lyrics are amazing and the verses are undeniably beautiful in all the versions of the song. But the chorus on the Family original (and the live version w Rosie Gaines) is an unlistenable train wreck -- the chords are totally different and oddly mismatched with the melody. It makes me wonder what Sinead or Nellee Hooper (the original producer before he and Sinead got into a row) saw in the tune in the first place.

Have they ever said anything about it?

Naive Teen Idol, Thursday, 12 May 2016 13:24 (eight years ago) link

I assume this is one of the songs which was inspired by his love for Susannah melvoin

scarcity festival (Jon not Jon), Thursday, 12 May 2016 13:32 (eight years ago) link

Still never heard the family album. It's hard to search for in the downloadosphere

scarcity festival (Jon not Jon), Thursday, 12 May 2016 13:33 (eight years ago) link

xpost All very good questions! I'm not sure I've ever read, or remember reading, how this obscure Prince song made its way to a (relatively) obscure Irish singer.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 12 May 2016 13:35 (eight years ago) link

I don't understand what people are hearing that would make them say the version with Rosie Gaines is an unlistenable train wreck

i like to trump and i am crazy (DJP), Thursday, 12 May 2016 13:55 (eight years ago) link

weird hearing the family do this song recently as a tribute while sticking to the original arrangement so faithfully. the reason their version never went anywhere, apart from the aspirationally overwrought vocal, was because it has that stupid 'oh oh ohhh ohhh ohh' part after every few lines (how did that make the final edit?). it has the same problems as the prince/gaines duet, though that was somehow even worse, as it had unnecessary NPG bombast on top of the stupid hammy melodramatics of the family version.

StillAdvance, Thursday, 12 May 2016 14:02 (eight years ago) link

its actually kind of amazing that anyone would hear that song in the late 80s and think 'i know what this song needs' (or rather, i know what this song definitely does NOT need)

StillAdvance, Thursday, 12 May 2016 14:03 (eight years ago) link

I don't understand what people are hearing that would make them say the version with Rosie Gaines is an unlistenable train wreck

The Family version has me in its grips until about 1:10 at which point the chorus just kind of goes off the rails. It's jarring enough that I really do wonder what Sinead et al heard in it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ZlzN0Gtpp8

In the Gaines version (not sure if it's on YouTube), the chorus comes at 1:34 -- it's less that it's jarring and more that the chords are again different (different than the Family version, actually) and chorus doesn't really land.

So I guess the question is: who re-wrote the chorus for Sinead's version?

Naive Teen Idol, Thursday, 12 May 2016 14:12 (eight years ago) link

The one by Taylor Dane is not bad and also features an amusing if a wee bit hard to follow story about getting invited to and performing at a Prince aftershow.

Son of Shaftway (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 26 May 2016 23:21 (eight years ago) link

This may leave you cold or you might find it a wee bit moving:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gt1YhpQb8go

Why You Wanna Treeship Borad? (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 29 May 2016 23:32 (eight years ago) link


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