When local clubs around here started putting on dubstep nights is when I first realized "Okay they can't ALL be sitting around listening to Kode9."
― Ned Raggett, Sunday, 13 March 2011 17:21 (thirteen years ago) link
I mean, this disparity might say a lot more about the sheltered world that WE (as music nerds/hipsters/indie-type/et al) live in, than the way fratbros react to music. I mean, I had like 900 posts in the last three years like "No one listens to dubstep" when I really meant "No one listens to the type of lol dubstep we talk about, because I'm mostly unaware of this bigger trend also occuring"
― Whiney G. Weingarten, Sunday, 13 March 2011 17:25 (thirteen years ago) link
deej would you mind if we changed the thread title to "frat rap (also brostep and mainstream-indie discussion too)"
― Whiney G. Weingarten, Sunday, 13 March 2011 17:27 (thirteen years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rpmkJD26A7E
― It's obvious Weezy is feeling Wang on this, (lpz), Sunday, 13 March 2011 17:35 (thirteen years ago) link
learning abt "brostep" may force me to redo hipness rankings for some of my casual acquaintances
― bernard snowy, Sunday, 13 March 2011 17:54 (thirteen years ago) link
because there are definitely ppl i have seen make comments about "dubstep" on facebook or w/e and i just assumed they were talking about cool artistically-credible underground music
― bernard snowy, Sunday, 13 March 2011 17:55 (thirteen years ago) link
and even when it seemed out-of-character i just sorta went "well good for burial! never thought american audiences would be so into this sound!"
― bernard snowy, Sunday, 13 March 2011 17:56 (thirteen years ago) link
basically i have been living a liea dream from which i am just now waking up
turns out those losers were just having a good time
― Kerm, Sunday, 13 March 2011 17:57 (thirteen years ago) link
a lil late on the jam band vibes but its scene i find p fascinating - gbx generally v otm on the topic is widely off here:
(not to prompt a dead v. ICP popularity contest---just that ICP has, simply by existing ~when~ they exist, pushed more units and sold more tickets (maybe) than the Dead. )
― ullr saves (gbx), Saturday, March 12, 2011 10:51 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
the dead were the highest grossing touring act in the world for years, icp play areans, its not even close - and then THIS:
our v own aerosmith has played on TV (great work btw), but widespread panic has sold out red rocks 35 times (according to wiki) and i'd hazard one of those gigs is more lucrative than the other, both in the short- and long-term
― ullr saves (gbx), Saturday, March 12, 2011 9:20 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
dude i think youre forgetting
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qfNmyxV2Ncw
i mean
― ice cr?m, Sunday, 13 March 2011 17:58 (thirteen years ago) link
Can ILM's board description be changed to "music and how to hate on it" please?
― Kerm, Sunday, 13 March 2011 17:59 (thirteen years ago) link
i guess i wonder who first began marketing this music to them as "dubstep"
like, the other meaning was pretty well-established before brostep appeared, no?
― bernard snowy, Sunday, 13 March 2011 18:01 (thirteen years ago) link
it reflects a very strange position in the world is all. like learning that someone reads "legal thrillers" that are actually magazines full of stories about dumb criminals.
― bernard snowy, Sunday, 13 March 2011 18:03 (thirteen years ago) link
or an offshoot from the "original" dubstep evolved into something other people wanted to listen/dance/party to, who knows...
― Kerm, Sunday, 13 March 2011 18:04 (thirteen years ago) link
the dead were the highest grossing touring act in the world for years, icp play areans, its not even close
mea culpa
― ullr saves (gbx), Sunday, 13 March 2011 18:08 (thirteen years ago) link
xp no it sucks
not that i have anything invested in "the 'original' dubstep" — i just didn't realize the extent to which the term had been genericized. like i understand that "rave" = any kind of lowest-common denominator thumping electronic tedium, but i didn't realize the same thing had happened to what i still think of as a fairly narrow 'boutique' genre term. (better analogy than the 'legal thriller' one would be learning that millions of ppl think of "Hey Soul Sister" as 'freak-folk')
― bernard snowy, Sunday, 13 March 2011 18:12 (thirteen years ago) link
Homework (zzzzz) ― thank you ilxor for starting this much needed thread (ilxor), Sunday, March 13, 2011 5:21 PM (48 minutes ago) Bookmark
― thank you ilxor for starting this much needed thread (ilxor), Sunday, March 13, 2011 5:21 PM (48 minutes ago) Bookmark
you're dead to me
― history mayne, Sunday, 13 March 2011 18:12 (thirteen years ago) link
so ive just listened to some of this bro step and its connection to the murky ilxorian dubstep is p clear - its like someone just applied a corny populist party filter to it - on a side note its kinda hilarious that this should happen to dubstep in that it seems to be music that takes itself seriously
― ice cr?m, Sunday, 13 March 2011 18:16 (thirteen years ago) link
xp yeah hundreds of people dancing is "tedium" and sitting at home learning how to better disapprove of your friends' musical tastes doesn't suck. got it.
― Kerm, Sunday, 13 March 2011 18:17 (thirteen years ago) link
i knew a dude that went to this -- never heard of any of these "dubstep" artists
http://www.clubzone.com/events/view_event_image.asp?/events/images/324657/324657-1.jpg
― J0rdan S., Sunday, 13 March 2011 18:19 (thirteen years ago) link
itt americans talk about dubstep :(
― lex pretend, Sunday, 13 March 2011 18:20 (thirteen years ago) link
― Ned Raggett, Sunday, March 13, 2011 5:21 PM (35 minutes ago) Bookmark
hahahaha yes i remember in like 2006 i went to dubstep night at this club in austin and it was literally a bunch of ilxor-lookin-boys standing with their hands in the hoodie pockets and headphones around their necks nodding their heads sagely, then years later i realized there were like 5 dubsteps nights downtown now and that they couldn't all be ilxor lookin boys in hoodies not-dancing
― HOOStory is back. Fasten your steenbelts. (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Sunday, 13 March 2011 18:21 (thirteen years ago) link
xp yeah hundreds of people dancing is "tedium" and sitting at home learning how to better disapprove of your friends' musical tastes doesn't suck. got it.― Kerm, Sunday, March 13, 2011 6:17 PM (25 minutes ago) Bookmark
― Kerm, Sunday, March 13, 2011 6:17 PM (25 minutes ago) Bookmark
to all kinds of music
'pop music''club music''hippity-hop music'
but i would honestly rather dance to lady gaga than this shitty shitty shit
― bernard snowy, Sunday, 13 March 2011 18:45 (thirteen years ago) link
(i don't like lady gaga very much and i think she is just okay for dancing to, if that wasn't clear)
― bernard snowy, Sunday, 13 March 2011 18:46 (thirteen years ago) link
your hipness ranking was in jeopardy til you cleared that up
― Kerm, Sunday, 13 March 2011 18:50 (thirteen years ago) link
yeah hundreds of people dancing is "tedium" and sitting at home learning how to better disapprove of your friends' musical tastes doesn't suck. got it.― Kerm, Sunday, March 13, 2011 6:17 PM (25 minutes ago) Bookmark
i know it's ilx but it's not 2005
― history mayne, Sunday, 13 March 2011 18:58 (thirteen years ago) link
so ive just listened to some of this bro step and its connection to the murky ilxorian dubstep is p clear
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WSeNSzJ2-Jw
^ listening back through something like this ... the big-wobbly-bass thing around 0:40 is obviously what I'd think of as dubstep, but so much other stuff -- the electroish sound palette, the regularity of the beats -- always makes me think of it some other way. (informative thread! learning and whatnot!)
― oɔsıqɐu (nabisco), Sunday, 13 March 2011 18:59 (thirteen years ago) link
Yeah it basically takes those wobbly Joker-like bass drops that sounds great when you are stoned and drops them into Crystal Method-style big beat, makes sense that it would play well in a jam band-y festival kind of setting.
― Mark, Sunday, 13 March 2011 19:08 (thirteen years ago) link
also an important link in this whole dubstep discussion is probably study abroad programs
― puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Sunday, 13 March 2011 19:14 (thirteen years ago) link
note I know nothing about dubstep but I see the word a lot on the internet
― puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Sunday, 13 March 2011 19:15 (thirteen years ago) link
mac millar looks and sounds like he's missing at least a couple of important chromosomes, imo. like this is what happens when cousins marry, etc. fella is a walking, talking, mouth-breathing "whitest kids u know" sketch.
― http://i56.tinypic.com/xnsu1g.gif (max arrrrrgh), Sunday, 13 March 2011 19:26 (thirteen years ago) link
when a form of "british bass music" crosses the atlantic, you it's entered some sort of mannerist, walking dead phase.
x-post
― http://i56.tinypic.com/xnsu1g.gif (max arrrrrgh), Sunday, 13 March 2011 19:28 (thirteen years ago) link
http://www.metalinsider.net/site/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/bob-marley-jimi-hendrix-t-shirt11-300x300.jpg
― Hippie J0hn D. (Pillbox), Sunday, 13 March 2011 19:34 (thirteen years ago) link
hehe, i love those shirts.
― http://i56.tinypic.com/xnsu1g.gif (max arrrrrgh), Sunday, 13 March 2011 19:42 (thirteen years ago) link
A few of my friends have been making fun of "dubstep" for maybe a year now and complaining about it being played in too many clubs. A few times I've gotten on a bit of a soapbox and scolded them for talking shit about a sub-genre that they clearly knew nothing about, since I'd never heard any kind of the post-burial stuff talked about on ilx in clubs. I just figured they heard a silly-sounding genre name and decided to pick on it and use it as a catch-all term for electronic music, sort of like the new "techno" or "electronica".
― Fetchboy, Sunday, 13 March 2011 21:01 (thirteen years ago) link
the dubstep bass-drops are such a weird motif to orient an entire genre around imo
― deej, Sunday, 13 March 2011 21:04 (thirteen years ago) link
i stumbled over that Salem album on my ipod before going on a run today, and gave it a listen cuz of this thread. it sucks.
― ullr saves (gbx), Sunday, 13 March 2011 21:13 (thirteen years ago) link
the dubstep bass-drops are such a weird motif to orient an entire genre around imo― deej, Sunday, March 13, 2011 5:04 PM (23 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
― deej, Sunday, March 13, 2011 5:04 PM (23 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
like the "mosh part" of anthrax songs :: NY hardcore
― Whiney G. Weingarten, Sunday, 13 March 2011 21:28 (thirteen years ago) link
asked my 16-year-old Odd-Future listening son if he'd heard of rappers Mac Miller and Sam Adams mentioned upthread. He said he had--Miller he pronounced ok, Adams he said was terrible.
― curmudgeon, Sunday, 13 March 2011 22:20 (thirteen years ago) link
By coincidence an oar live thing was just on mhd.
I watched it. Pretty bad.
Also they have no connection to the dead or even wide spread. Not hippies.
Basically there are people for whom the first counting crows record is sgt peppers. Throw in a little dmb guitar center jackoffery and voila
― gr8080 sings the blues (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Sunday, 13 March 2011 23:07 (thirteen years ago) link
just remembering that when I was at penn state for a summer like 8 years ago bros were listening to happy hardcore and sandstorm
brostep seems like a logical extension
― dayo, Monday, 14 March 2011 00:19 (thirteen years ago) link
people who're into Kanye are into the narrative of when he got good & does he keep getting better or when does he "start to suck," etc -- this narrative doesn't appeal to fans of the bands we're talking about; these bands consist largely of "players" (jazz dudes use this term just meaning "guys who can really play") who can hit a groove & hold it and that's not really something you lose if you're always out there, really you just keep getting better as long as your health holds. when you're a pop star your days are numbered. people who go see Ratdog in 2011 first saw Weir sing "Truckin'" in 1978.― five gone cats from Boston (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Sunday, March 13, 2011 11:44 AM (Yesterday) Bookmark
― five gone cats from Boston (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Sunday, March 13, 2011 11:44 AM (Yesterday) Bookmark
this seems pretty otm to me - we ilxor-lookin dudes do love bands & artists whose story arcs parallel those whom we know and love
by the way, 200 posts and nobody's mentioned GIRL TALK yet
― dayo, Monday, 14 March 2011 00:20 (thirteen years ago) link
his popularity among ppl is kind of thoroughly distasteful to me
― HOOStory is back. Fasten your steenbelts. (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Monday, 14 March 2011 02:06 (thirteen years ago) link
fyi mac miller's "all around the world" is produced by just blaze & includes a "SWAG" :-/
― deej, Monday, 14 March 2011 05:28 (thirteen years ago) link
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― max, Monday, 14 March 2011 05:45 (thirteen years ago) link
i think this sort of is what this thread is getting at but "bros" are basically "hipsters" now, huh?
― max, Monday, 14 March 2011 05:46 (thirteen years ago) link
its weird how all the unpopular kids in high school "won" but it turns out that winning just means that jocks dress like you and listen to the same music you do
― max, Monday, 14 March 2011 05:47 (thirteen years ago) link
so many rappers/producers/ppl in the industry seem so damn desperate these days
― deej, Monday, 14 March 2011 06:00 (thirteen years ago) link
max otm — my pithy comment of choice for summing up this situation was "it turns out everyone and everything you run away from eventually follows you to the places you made cool"
― hipsters be comin' to the hipster-hop store (bernard snowy), Monday, 14 March 2011 09:54 (thirteen years ago) link
^^^ this is why you keep running and how cool cycles imo
― HOOStory is back. Fasten your steenbelts. (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Monday, 14 March 2011 12:39 (thirteen years ago) link