itt americans talk about dubstep :(
― lex pretend, Sunday, 13 March 2011 18:20 (thirteen years ago) link
When local clubs around here started putting on dubstep nights is when I first realized "Okay they can't ALL be sitting around listening to Kode9."
― Ned Raggett, Sunday, March 13, 2011 5:21 PM (35 minutes ago) Bookmark
hahahaha yes i remember in like 2006 i went to dubstep night at this club in austin and it was literally a bunch of ilxor-lookin-boys standing with their hands in the hoodie pockets and headphones around their necks nodding their heads sagely, then years later i realized there were like 5 dubsteps nights downtown now and that they couldn't all be ilxor lookin boys in hoodies not-dancing
― HOOStory is back. Fasten your steenbelts. (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Sunday, 13 March 2011 18:21 (thirteen years ago) link
xp yeah hundreds of people dancing is "tedium" and sitting at home learning how to better disapprove of your friends' musical tastes doesn't suck. got it.― Kerm, Sunday, March 13, 2011 6:17 PM (25 minutes ago) Bookmark
― Kerm, Sunday, March 13, 2011 6:17 PM (25 minutes ago) Bookmark
to all kinds of music
'pop music''club music''hippity-hop music'
but i would honestly rather dance to lady gaga than this shitty shitty shit
― bernard snowy, Sunday, 13 March 2011 18:45 (thirteen years ago) link
(i don't like lady gaga very much and i think she is just okay for dancing to, if that wasn't clear)
― bernard snowy, Sunday, 13 March 2011 18:46 (thirteen years ago) link
your hipness ranking was in jeopardy til you cleared that up
― Kerm, Sunday, 13 March 2011 18:50 (thirteen years ago) link
yeah hundreds of people dancing is "tedium" and sitting at home learning how to better disapprove of your friends' musical tastes doesn't suck. got it.― Kerm, Sunday, March 13, 2011 6:17 PM (25 minutes ago) Bookmark
i know it's ilx but it's not 2005
― history mayne, Sunday, 13 March 2011 18:58 (thirteen years ago) link
so ive just listened to some of this bro step and its connection to the murky ilxorian dubstep is p clear
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WSeNSzJ2-Jw
^ listening back through something like this ... the big-wobbly-bass thing around 0:40 is obviously what I'd think of as dubstep, but so much other stuff -- the electroish sound palette, the regularity of the beats -- always makes me think of it some other way. (informative thread! learning and whatnot!)
― oɔsıqɐu (nabisco), Sunday, 13 March 2011 18:59 (thirteen years ago) link
Yeah it basically takes those wobbly Joker-like bass drops that sounds great when you are stoned and drops them into Crystal Method-style big beat, makes sense that it would play well in a jam band-y festival kind of setting.
― Mark, Sunday, 13 March 2011 19:08 (thirteen years ago) link
also an important link in this whole dubstep discussion is probably study abroad programs
― puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Sunday, 13 March 2011 19:14 (thirteen years ago) link
note I know nothing about dubstep but I see the word a lot on the internet
― puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Sunday, 13 March 2011 19:15 (thirteen years ago) link
mac millar looks and sounds like he's missing at least a couple of important chromosomes, imo. like this is what happens when cousins marry, etc. fella is a walking, talking, mouth-breathing "whitest kids u know" sketch.
― http://i56.tinypic.com/xnsu1g.gif (max arrrrrgh), Sunday, 13 March 2011 19:26 (thirteen years ago) link
when a form of "british bass music" crosses the atlantic, you it's entered some sort of mannerist, walking dead phase.
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― http://i56.tinypic.com/xnsu1g.gif (max arrrrrgh), Sunday, 13 March 2011 19:28 (thirteen years ago) link
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― Hippie J0hn D. (Pillbox), Sunday, 13 March 2011 19:34 (thirteen years ago) link
hehe, i love those shirts.
― http://i56.tinypic.com/xnsu1g.gif (max arrrrrgh), Sunday, 13 March 2011 19:42 (thirteen years ago) link
A few of my friends have been making fun of "dubstep" for maybe a year now and complaining about it being played in too many clubs. A few times I've gotten on a bit of a soapbox and scolded them for talking shit about a sub-genre that they clearly knew nothing about, since I'd never heard any kind of the post-burial stuff talked about on ilx in clubs. I just figured they heard a silly-sounding genre name and decided to pick on it and use it as a catch-all term for electronic music, sort of like the new "techno" or "electronica".
― Fetchboy, Sunday, 13 March 2011 21:01 (thirteen years ago) link
the dubstep bass-drops are such a weird motif to orient an entire genre around imo
― deej, Sunday, 13 March 2011 21:04 (thirteen years ago) link
i stumbled over that Salem album on my ipod before going on a run today, and gave it a listen cuz of this thread. it sucks.
― ullr saves (gbx), Sunday, 13 March 2011 21:13 (thirteen years ago) link
the dubstep bass-drops are such a weird motif to orient an entire genre around imo― deej, Sunday, March 13, 2011 5:04 PM (23 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
― deej, Sunday, March 13, 2011 5:04 PM (23 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
like the "mosh part" of anthrax songs :: NY hardcore
― Whiney G. Weingarten, Sunday, 13 March 2011 21:28 (thirteen years ago) link
asked my 16-year-old Odd-Future listening son if he'd heard of rappers Mac Miller and Sam Adams mentioned upthread. He said he had--Miller he pronounced ok, Adams he said was terrible.
― curmudgeon, Sunday, 13 March 2011 22:20 (thirteen years ago) link
By coincidence an oar live thing was just on mhd.
I watched it. Pretty bad.
Also they have no connection to the dead or even wide spread. Not hippies.
Basically there are people for whom the first counting crows record is sgt peppers. Throw in a little dmb guitar center jackoffery and voila
― gr8080 sings the blues (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Sunday, 13 March 2011 23:07 (thirteen years ago) link
just remembering that when I was at penn state for a summer like 8 years ago bros were listening to happy hardcore and sandstorm
brostep seems like a logical extension
― dayo, Monday, 14 March 2011 00:19 (thirteen years ago) link
people who're into Kanye are into the narrative of when he got good & does he keep getting better or when does he "start to suck," etc -- this narrative doesn't appeal to fans of the bands we're talking about; these bands consist largely of "players" (jazz dudes use this term just meaning "guys who can really play") who can hit a groove & hold it and that's not really something you lose if you're always out there, really you just keep getting better as long as your health holds. when you're a pop star your days are numbered. people who go see Ratdog in 2011 first saw Weir sing "Truckin'" in 1978.― five gone cats from Boston (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Sunday, March 13, 2011 11:44 AM (Yesterday) Bookmark
― five gone cats from Boston (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Sunday, March 13, 2011 11:44 AM (Yesterday) Bookmark
this seems pretty otm to me - we ilxor-lookin dudes do love bands & artists whose story arcs parallel those whom we know and love
by the way, 200 posts and nobody's mentioned GIRL TALK yet
― dayo, Monday, 14 March 2011 00:20 (thirteen years ago) link
his popularity among ppl is kind of thoroughly distasteful to me
― HOOStory is back. Fasten your steenbelts. (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Monday, 14 March 2011 02:06 (thirteen years ago) link
fyi mac miller's "all around the world" is produced by just blaze & includes a "SWAG" :-/
― deej, Monday, 14 March 2011 05:28 (thirteen years ago) link
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― max, Monday, 14 March 2011 05:45 (thirteen years ago) link
i think this sort of is what this thread is getting at but "bros" are basically "hipsters" now, huh?
― max, Monday, 14 March 2011 05:46 (thirteen years ago) link
its weird how all the unpopular kids in high school "won" but it turns out that winning just means that jocks dress like you and listen to the same music you do
― max, Monday, 14 March 2011 05:47 (thirteen years ago) link
so many rappers/producers/ppl in the industry seem so damn desperate these days
― deej, Monday, 14 March 2011 06:00 (thirteen years ago) link
max otm — my pithy comment of choice for summing up this situation was "it turns out everyone and everything you run away from eventually follows you to the places you made cool"
― hipsters be comin' to the hipster-hop store (bernard snowy), Monday, 14 March 2011 09:54 (thirteen years ago) link
^^^ this is why you keep running and how cool cycles imo
― HOOStory is back. Fasten your steenbelts. (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Monday, 14 March 2011 12:39 (thirteen years ago) link
"it turns out everyone and everything you run away from eventually follows you to the places you made cool"
have you... made internet message boards cool?
― history mayne, Monday, 14 March 2011 12:46 (thirteen years ago) link
well this was framed more in terms of cycles of gentrification and 'urban renewal' & shit, but i think it obviously applies metaphorically to certain aesthetic choices
not sure whether 'posting on an internet message board' is one of those choices tho
― hipsters be comin' to the hipster-hop store (bernard snowy), Monday, 14 March 2011 12:51 (thirteen years ago) link
number of college students posting on this thread and board is miniscule I am assuming (number of high school student likely even smaller)
― curmudgeon, Monday, 14 March 2011 13:33 (thirteen years ago) link
wait wait wait, from waaaaaay upthread: BRETT RATNER????
― ancient, but very sexy (DJP), Monday, 14 March 2011 17:09 (thirteen years ago) link
Okay I'm glad YOU noticed that.
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 14 March 2011 17:12 (thirteen years ago) link
btw just for further context on the demographics in question: the highest-voted comment* on that skrillex vid nabisco posted yesterday was (paraphrasing from memory) "Skrillex, I'm taking you into custody... for causing the Japanese earthquakes!"
(not tryna be all cap'n-save-a-public-decency here, but i generally prefer my tasteless humor to be a bit more clever than "lol this bass kills ppl" (but then again, that comment was probably posted by a 15-year-old))
*: it has since dropped off the front page, replaced by
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― hipsters be comin' to the hipster-hop store (bernard snowy), Monday, 14 March 2011 17:25 (thirteen years ago) link
http://www.youtube.com/v/WSeNSzJ2-Jw&fs=1&hl=en
― oɔsıqɐu (nabisco), Sunday, March 13, 2011 1:59 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
― deej, Sunday, March 13, 2011 4:04 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
to me, tempo and beat-style is a more important connection between the different kinds of dubstep that we're talking about (compared to sound palette/LFO-based basslines). at this point anything hovering about 140 bpm is going to be called dubstep.
― adult music person (Jordan), Monday, 14 March 2011 17:59 (thirteen years ago) link
like how anything around 120 with a four-on-the-floor kick is going to be talked about in terms of "house", whatever little subgenre it might occupy.
― adult music person (Jordan), Monday, 14 March 2011 18:00 (thirteen years ago) link
btw this thread is totally otm about dubstep in the u.s.. i only became aware of it a few months ago...i mean, i consider myself a dude keeps up with electronic music, i've got a vested interest in it, but i live in a midwest college town and was like "who are these dudes (like skrillex) selling out large-to-huge venues here whose names i've never even heard?"
― adult music person (Jordan), Monday, 14 March 2011 18:04 (thirteen years ago) link
does donal glover fit into this conversation in any way?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=otPxoVQiIGo
― hipster bluppies (symsymsym), Monday, 14 March 2011 23:03 (thirteen years ago) link
the only person i know who listens to childish gambino praises him as the savior of "real rap" without having really listened to the genre. hates lil wayne too.
what was mike posner and kid cudi last year is mac miller and wiz khalifa this year. Fresh on Campus seems to be the go-to blog for this kind of crowd.
― flow (chilli), Tuesday, 15 March 2011 08:23 (thirteen years ago) link
I thought the skrillex song was okay at first but I kind of hate how telegraphed the bass drop is, it's so functional
also it's probably shitty youtube qualiy but the mixing sounds like shit, all mid-high bass with no real bottom end - I'd have to listen to a HQ version to be sure, but it sounds like it was mixed to sound good on those cheap 400 watt computer speaker systems you can buy, which emphasize mid-bass
― dayo, Tuesday, 15 March 2011 08:38 (thirteen years ago) link
so i guess this is like the frat version of "toot it & boot it"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NFjJGG4dkgg&feature=player_embedded
― J0rdan S., Tuesday, 15 March 2011 08:55 (thirteen years ago) link
btw
yogi 37 up, 3 downto have sex with a girl using no condomI just hit a yogi last night
christ -- these dudes or dude or w/e are connected w/ ryan tedder (figures)
the singer on this one is the biggest doofus i've ever seen
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tDtZDGslz-M&feature=player_embedded#at=184
― J0rdan S., Tuesday, 15 March 2011 09:00 (thirteen years ago) link
can't believe "starting six" let the tiny dude into their group
― J0rdan S., Tuesday, 15 March 2011 09:11 (thirteen years ago) link
it really undercuts the credibility of any song they do about sex
― J0rdan S., Tuesday, 15 March 2011 09:12 (thirteen years ago) link
these are the types of dudes that end up on jezebel after a string of sexist emails gets leaked
― J0rdan S., Tuesday, 15 March 2011 09:13 (thirteen years ago) link
song is kinda catchy but i'm gonna choose to go around singing it as "i ate a gnocchi, ate a gnocchi, ate a gnoooochiii"
― J0rdan S., Tuesday, 15 March 2011 09:14 (thirteen years ago) link
difference being they probably intentionally leaked the e-mails xp
― dayo, Tuesday, 15 March 2011 09:18 (thirteen years ago) link