I'm surprised "A Milli" wasn't rated even higher
― beggin-ass keith (The Reverend), Tuesday, 16 December 2008 19:15 (fifteen years ago) link
Vocals aside, most of this stuff seems more connected to Martin's previous work/collaborators than anything else.
― Alex in SF, Tuesday, December 16, 2008 11:04 AM Bookmark
You do you, umma do me
whoops, whatever I copied didn't copy
I may be wrong, but I don't think they listed more than 2 tracks by any given artist.
― beggin-ass keith (The Reverend), Tuesday, December 16, 2008 2:05 PM (9 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
well, kanye's on it 4 times if you count "american boy" and "put on", but as main artists i think you're right.
― The rickroll from the hilarious NEVER GONNA GIVE YOU UP, NEVER GONNA (some dude), Tuesday, 16 December 2008 19:16 (fifteen years ago) link
Suggest Ban Permalink― beggin-ass keith (The Reverend), Tuesday, December 16, 2008 11:15 AM Bookmark
was supposed to be in response to
Yeah, but what an amazing two bars they are! (xp)
― Maciej (maciej recognizing trill), Tuesday, December 16, 2008 11:14 AM Bookmark
― beggin-ass keith (The Reverend), Tuesday, 16 December 2008 19:17 (fifteen years ago) link
yeah, I just meant main artists xp
yeah it's pretty easy to see why "belle & sebastian fans" like cut copy - 80s babies digging indie dudes doing 80s dance pop with huge choruses. seems like a no brainer
btw i <3 them
― the usic man from the hilarious ilx message boards (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, December 16, 2008 1:13 PM (4 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
this doesnt make sense -- these two artists are totally unrelated -- more like ppl who are into 80s nites and new order and shit like that would like cut copy (i like cut copy)
and yeah whiney's post about them v crystal castles makes even less sense
― K DEF FROM REAL LIVE (deej), Tuesday, 16 December 2008 19:19 (fifteen years ago) link
ppl using b&s as strawman "indie" fan shocka
― the ref (ed hochuli ha ha) (call all destroyer), Tuesday, 16 December 2008 19:22 (fifteen years ago) link
cut copy makes me think of new wave thursdays at neo in chicago, even if it is objectively not like that
― K DEF FROM REAL LIVE (deej), Tuesday, 16 December 2008 19:23 (fifteen years ago) link
Not nearly enough "No Air" love on these lists, btw.
― Maciej (maciej recognizing trill), Tuesday, 16 December 2008 19:24 (fifteen years ago) link
A cynic would suggest the only reason Whiney made that point was because they are both broadly speaking electro and have alliterative C names.
― Matt DC, Tuesday, 16 December 2008 19:27 (fifteen years ago) link
Surely the guy making lazy comps to B&S fans would never pull something like THAT!
― the ref (ed hochuli ha ha) (call all destroyer), Tuesday, 16 December 2008 19:29 (fifteen years ago) link
that was j0rdan s
― K DEF FROM REAL LIVE (deej), Tuesday, 16 December 2008 19:38 (fifteen years ago) link
Well, I've LISTENED to them (i even relistened to the four songs they rank on the Pfork list) but they're both so incredibly boring and completely incapable of leaving any impression on me that I'm never left thinking anything beyond "I hate this music" and "people that listen to Belle And Sebastien dance to this"
― Whiney G. Weingarten, Tuesday, December 16, 2008 2:06 PM (35 minutes ago) Bookmark
― the ref (ed hochuli ha ha) (call all destroyer), Tuesday, 16 December 2008 19:42 (fifteen years ago) link
oh lol
― K DEF FROM REAL LIVE (deej), Tuesday, 16 December 2008 19:43 (fifteen years ago) link
Itt: Mean mugging ringtone dudes protecting lame electro bands from lazy zings
― uәʇɹɐƃu!әʍ ˙ƃ ʎәu!Ⴁʍ (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, 16 December 2008 19:52 (fifteen years ago) link
I mean you guys are right in that I was lazy and strawmanning, but seriously, given the subject matter, that's like getting up in arms when someone lumps Slipknot and Mudvayne in with "evil clown bands"
― uәʇɹɐƃu!әʍ ˙ƃ ʎәu!Ⴁʍ (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, 16 December 2008 19:56 (fifteen years ago) link
the pop songs on the list puzzled me too - "love in this club", "single ladies" and "live your life"?
pfork in hurriedly pulling a few random chart-toppers into their lists at the last minute in lieu of paying attention to pop and r&b throughout the year, shocker
― lex pretend, Tuesday, 16 December 2008 20:01 (fifteen years ago) link
why do you give 2 shitz about what pfork is covering?
― uncle tombot (and what), Tuesday, 16 December 2008 20:04 (fifteen years ago) link
im not going to take as quite a cynical view as lex but i feel like the pfork lists from years past (05, 06, etc.) had pop/rap picks that were more inspired than stuff like "love in this club" and "live your life" - but i guess that could just speak to the quality of pop music this year
― Bomb Sackantino (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 16 December 2008 20:05 (fifteen years ago) link
b/c people keep talking about it as if it's a critically impt general music publication
― lex pretend, Tuesday, 16 December 2008 20:06 (fifteen years ago) link
This is the year-end list thread where we discuss year-end lists, lex.
― the ref (ed hochuli ha ha) (call all destroyer), Tuesday, 16 December 2008 20:07 (fifteen years ago) link
So both Slant and PopMatters chose Portishead as #1 album. Now I've loved Portishead for a long time, but I have to admit that Third just hasn't pulled me in the way the other two studio albums did. I'm not surprised that it is making the year-end lists, but I am a bit surprised that it is considered the very best album of the year.
Do you folks agree? Disagree?
― Moodles, Tuesday, 16 December 2008 20:14 (fifteen years ago) link
― Bomb Sackantino (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, December 16, 2008 3:05 PM (4 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
i disagree, a lot of their pop picks in, say, '06 ("Ring The Alarm," "S.O.S.," the Akon "Ghetto Story" remix, "One Blood" "Bossy") or most other years seemed like kinda scattershot random samplings of the charts.
― Tom Botantino (some dude), Tuesday, 16 December 2008 20:15 (fifteen years ago) link
ha earlier when i said the ambient acoustic guitar + quirky singer thing was real big in the pfork list -- it wasnt just fleet foxes & tough alliance but portishead too -- all different genres supposedly but all the same song!
i dont think lex was quite otm about it being 'mopey' though -- theres a certain attempt @ profundity there i think tho
― K DEF FROM REAL LIVE (deej), Tuesday, 16 December 2008 20:17 (fifteen years ago) link
When you put it like that I would agree that the pfork list is quite lacking in stuff that rocks. Token metal picks are very two years ago?
― the ref (ed hochuli ha ha) (call all destroyer), Tuesday, 16 December 2008 20:35 (fifteen years ago) link
RIP Mullah Omar
― total mormon cockblock extravaganza (jaymc), Tuesday, 16 December 2008 20:43 (fifteen years ago) link
Not many metal heads at PFM, but they do have Brandon Stosuy.
http://www.pitchforkmedia.com/article/feature/147495-column-show-no-mercy
I was pleased to see Hammers Of Misfortune made his list, along with several other musicians' lists.
― Fastnbulbous, Tuesday, 16 December 2008 21:16 (fifteen years ago) link
i'm pretty surprised "single ladies" was on p4k's list. it should be of course. lex was OTM though, i cringed at about every sentence of its writeup.i'm going to laugh when fleet fucking foxes is #1 album
― k3vin k., Tuesday, 16 December 2008 21:17 (fifteen years ago) link
Aren't these Pitchfork poll results from the readers not the editors?
― steampig67, Tuesday, 16 December 2008 21:24 (fifteen years ago) link
xpost yeah I need to go through the Show No Mercy list soon, I'm not down with everything he likes but he's pretty on the ball.
k3v are you going to laugh any more than when Panda Bear was #1? Or Sufjan Stevens? This conversation is roughly equally as boring every year. As boring as Fleet Foxes or fucking "Single Ladies."
― the ref (ed hochuli ha ha) (call all destroyer), Tuesday, 16 December 2008 21:26 (fifteen years ago) link
These are editors picks, "steampig67".
― the ref (ed hochuli ha ha) (call all destroyer), Tuesday, 16 December 2008 21:27 (fifteen years ago) link
http://blogs.villagevoice.com/food/hk-pig-thumb.jpg
― Whiney G. Weingarten, Tuesday, 16 December 2008 21:29 (fifteen years ago) link
panda bear can write songs and is 100 times more interesting than that harmonizing geico commercial monkey
― k3vin k., Tuesday, 16 December 2008 21:29 (fifteen years ago) link
oh sry didn't mean to bring out any latent aggressive animal collection fan tendencies.
― the ref (ed hochuli ha ha) (call all destroyer), Tuesday, 16 December 2008 21:32 (fifteen years ago) link
xxpost Thanks, I see them now.
― steampig67, Tuesday, 16 December 2008 21:32 (fifteen years ago) link
Major love to Tom Ewing's singles list!
― Someone Still Loves You Evan and Jaron (Tape Store), Tuesday, 16 December 2008 21:38 (fifteen years ago) link
lol xxpostforgot to say this, but i can say the same for beyonce
― k3vin k., Tuesday, 16 December 2008 21:57 (fifteen years ago) link
― lex pretend, Tuesday, 16 December 2008
yawn.
more influential than The Guardian or Plan B anyway...
― fandango, Tuesday, 16 December 2008 22:04 (fifteen years ago) link
Pitchfork | The 100 Best Tracks of 2008100 Girls - Hellhole Ratrace99 Final Fantasy - The Butcher98 The Magnetic Fields - The Nun's Litany97 Buraka Som Sistema (Feat. M.I.A. and DJ Znobia) - Sound of Kuduro96 Empire of the Sun - Walking on a Dream95 Friendly Fires (Feat. Au Revoir Simone) - Paris (Aeroplane Remix)94 WHY? - Fatalist Palmistry93 Atlas Sound - River Card92 Born Ruffians - I Need a Life (Four Tet Remix)91 Jamie Lidell - All I Wanna Do90 Sic Alps - Message From the Law89 Ponytail - Celebrate the Body Electric (It Came From an Angel)88 Low Motion Disco - Things Are Gonna Get Easier87 The Veronicas - Untouched86 Los Campesinos! - Sweet Dreams, Sweet Cheeks85 Osborne - 16th Stage84 Beach House - Gila83 Titus Andronicus - Upon Viewing Brueghel's 'Landscape With the Fall of Icarus'82 Solange - Sandcastle Disco81 Love Is All - Wishing Well80 The Bug (Feat. Warrior Queen) - Poison Dart79 Ida Maria - Oh My God78 Frightened Rabbit - The Modern Leper77 Telepathe - I Can't Stand It76 Justice - DVNO (Radio Edit)75 Little Boots - Stuck on Repeat74 Wale - The Kramer73 Goldfrapp - A&E72 Fleet Foxes - Blue Ridge Mountains71 Sigur Ros - Gobbledigook70 Rihanna - Don't Stop the Music69 Portishead - The Rip68 Four Tet - Ribbons67 Young Jeezy (Feat. Kanye West) - Put On66 Lykke Li - Dance, Dance, Dance65 Max Tundra - Which Song64 The Whitest Boy Alive - Golden Cage (Fred Falke Remix)63 The Very Best - Kamphopo62 The Tough Alliance - Lucky61 Q-Tip - Gettin' Up60 Crystal Castles - Courtship Dating59 The Dodos - Fools58 Annie - I Know UR Girlfriend Hates Me57 High Places - From Stardust to Sentience56 Vampire Weekend - Oxford Comma55 Usher (Feat. Young Jeezy) - Love in This Club54 Lykke Li - Little Bit53 Be Your Own Pet - Becky52 Ricardo Villalobos - Enfants (Chants)51 TV on the Radio - Golden Age50 Invisible Conga People - Cable Dazed49 Jay Reatard - Always Wanting More48 Spiritualized - Soul on Fire47 Alphabeat - Fascination46 M83 - Graveyard Girl45 Antony and the Johnsons - Shake That Devil44 Hot Chip - One Pure Thought43 Kelley Polar - Entropy Reigns (In the Celestial City)42 Nick Cave and the Bad Seeds - Dig!!! Lazarus, Dig!!!41 No Age - Sleeper Hold40 T.I. [ft. Rihanna] - Live Your Life39 Kanye West - Love Lockdown38 TV on the Radio - DLZ37 Big Boi [ft. Raekwon and André 3000] - Royal Flush36 Arthur Russell - I Couldn't Say It to Your Face35 Shearwater - The Snow Leopard34 Fuck Buttons - Sweet Love for Planet Earth33 Animal Collective - Street Flash32 Crystal Castles - Untrust Us31 Aeroplane [ft. Kathy Diamond] - Whispers30 MGMT - Time to Pretend29 Vampire Weekend - M7928 No Age - Eraser27 T.I. - No Matter What26 The Walkmen - In the New Year25 The Hold Steady- Constructive Summer24 Gang Gang Dance - House Jam23 Beyoncé - Single Ladies (Put a Ring on It)22 Santogold - Lights Out21 Hercules and Love Affair - Hercules' Theme20 The Juan MacLean - Happy House19 Vivian Girls - Where Do You Run To18 Women - Black Rice17 Wiley - Wearing My Rolex16 The Mae Shi - Run to Your Grave15 Amadou and Mariam - Sabali14 Lil Wayne - A Milli13 Kanye West - Flashing Lights12 Cut Copy - Out There on the Ice11 David Byrne and Brian Eno - Strange Overtones10 Estelle - American Boy9 Portishead - Machine Gun8 Air France - Collapsing At Your Doorstep7 Cut Copy - Hearts On Fire6 Deerhunter - Nothing Ever Happened5 M83 - Kim & Jessie4 Santogold - LES Artistes3 Hot Chip - Ready For The Floor2 Fleet Foxes - White Winter Hymnal1 Hercules & Love Affair - Blind
copied from: http://hayatbayat.blogspot.com/2008/12/pitchfork-100-best-tracks-of-2008.html
― dan138zig (Durrr Durrr Durrrrrr), Wednesday, 17 December 2008 03:12 (fifteen years ago) link
Just saw a bunch on the R&B blog Soulbounce. Putting them up here before I start reading.
Ro: http://www.soulbounce.com/soul/2008/12/yearend_top_10_ros_picks_of_2008.phpill Mami: http://www.soulbounce.com/soul/2008/12/yearend_top_10_ill_mamis_picks_of_2008.phpnOvaMatic: http://www.soulbounce.com/soul/2008/12/yearend_top_10_novas_picks_of_2008.phpButta: http://www.soulbounce.com/soul/2008/12/yearend_top_10_butta_picks_of_2008.php#moreHarlem: http://www.soulbounce.com/soul/2008/12/yearend_top_10_harlems_picks_of_2008.php
The 10 Worst Moments in Black Music: http://www.soulbounce.com/soul/2008/12/top_10_worst_moments_in_black_music_of_2008.php
― Matos W.K., Wednesday, 17 December 2008 05:00 (fifteen years ago) link
oh man the last one I linked is just brutal (one of the reasons I like that site)
― Matos W.K., Wednesday, 17 December 2008 05:46 (fifteen years ago) link
weird weird Wale blurb on pfork. maybe u can be justified dropping hella n-bombs if you're actually making a point related to that somehow but in the end it was just like "hes not lecturing us about it, just mentioning that it happened, and thats good enough!!" and its like o_O?
― K DEF FROM REAL LIVE (deej), Wednesday, 17 December 2008 05:47 (fifteen years ago) link
wow thanks for posting those lists matos - lots of my own favourites and some really amazing new discoveries. that foreign exchange/muhsinah track is incredible!! so sumptuous and epic. why have i been assailed by so much talk about fleet foxes when this has existed this year.
also this is the best line from any blurb so far, re: jazmine sullivan's 'lions, tigers & bears':
It's what I envision the dance between someone's mind and heart to be like just before they fall completely in love to be like.
<3
― lex pretend, Wednesday, 17 December 2008 10:20 (fifteen years ago) link
Don't think that anyone's posted the Resident Advisor Top 20 albums of 2008 yet. Matt DC should be happy with the winner.
― Enrique (Raw Patrick), Wednesday, 17 December 2008 10:32 (fifteen years ago) link
Nice list from RA. Deadbeat's album isn't getting enough love -- it's a real grower. And I'm still not understanding the high praise for Move D/Benjamin Brunn.
― NoTimeBeforeTime, Wednesday, 17 December 2008 11:39 (fifteen years ago) link
The last Deadbeat album was great, sort of flitted around in an undiscovered hinterland between minimal and dancehall. I didn't even know there was one this year.
― Matt DC, Wednesday, 17 December 2008 12:26 (fifteen years ago) link
I can't be alone in thinking that Pitchfork's honorable mention list seems like an irrepressibly silly idea. And that Torche deserved so much more than an honorable mention for Meanderthal.
― post-schadenfreude (fukasaku tollbooth), Wednesday, 17 December 2008 12:30 (fifteen years ago) link
Also had a song that went 'gimme gimme gimme gimme fat girl on me willy' or something similar.
(xpost)
― Matt DC, Wednesday, 17 December 2008 12:31 (fifteen years ago) link
Well, we can place records like Meanderthal, that didn't make our top 50, into a feature that will be read by hundreds of thousands of people over the next few weeks or ignore it altogether. Apologies if that's "irrepressibly silly."
― scottpl, Wednesday, 17 December 2008 12:46 (fifteen years ago) link