self-promo madness: Cave17 top 25:
1. Erykah Badu, New Amerykah Part 1 (4th World War)2. Solange, Sol-Angel and the Hadley St. Dreams3. The Raveonettes, Lust Lust Lust4. Flight of the Conchords, Flight of the Conchords5. The Duke Spirit, Neptune6. Portishead, Third7. T.I., Paper Trail8. Boris, Smile9. The Major Labels, Aquavia10. TV on the Radio, Dear Science11. Fucked Up, The Chemistry of Common Life12. Lil Mama, VYP — Voice of the Young People13. Prisonshake, Dirty Moons14. Neon Neon, Stainless Style15. Aaron Parks, Invisible Cinema16. M83, Saturdays = Youth17. Ne-Yo, Year of of the Gentleman18. Harvey Milk, Life…the Best Game in Town19. Bardo Pond, Circuit VIII20. No Age, Nouns21. Esperanza Spalding, Esperanza22. The Shackletons, The Shackletons23. My Morning Jacket, Evil Urges24. Torche, Meanderthal25. Anthony Hamilton, The Point of It All
― Dimension 5ive, Friday, 19 December 2008 16:53 (fifteen years ago) link
Actually I'm thrilled to see Jaguar Love on Christgau's list. Fantastic album.
― jon /via/ chi 2.0, Friday, December 19, 2008 11:39 AM (14 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
^^ good catch, i missed that. i thought maybe Xgau would pass over their album because he big-upped the 3-song EP over the album in the consumer guide.
― e|t|c (some dude), Friday, 19 December 2008 16:55 (fifteen years ago) link
But after a second look, he must be talking about the EP.
― jon /via/ chi 2.0, Friday, 19 December 2008 17:01 (fifteen years ago) link
haha oh yeah. kinda silly IMO, since 2/3rds of the songs are also on the album, and the other 8 on the album far outweigh the 1 good non-album EP track, but still, cool of him to list them.
― e|t|c (some dude), Friday, 19 December 2008 17:02 (fifteen years ago) link
This is the first year in awhile that I didn't roll my eyes at PFM's #1 album pick. Not my favorite album of the year, but at least it isn't Joanna Newsom (or Panda Bear).
― Mordy, Friday, 19 December 2008 17:09 (fifteen years ago) link
Wait, it isn't?
― Matt DC, Friday, 19 December 2008 17:11 (fifteen years ago) link
I thought Panda Bear was a pretty good thing for a website to call album of the year
― touch me i'm usic (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, 19 December 2008 17:13 (fifteen years ago) link
The Panda Bear album was my least favorite album to come out that year.
― Mordy, Friday, 19 December 2008 17:14 (fifteen years ago) link
I mean you're right it was no Daughtry
― touch me i'm usic (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, 19 December 2008 17:19 (fifteen years ago) link
FWIW, my list.
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 19 December 2008 17:56 (fifteen years ago) link
Your list is a bunch of TL;DR?
― touch me i'm usic (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, 19 December 2008 17:57 (fifteen years ago) link
Yay!
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 19 December 2008 18:04 (fifteen years ago) link
well, i rolled my eyes at fleet foxes, but that's just cuz i hate them. it was pretty damn predictable actually. thought it was nice Badu was high up there, did they even review that record?
― suggesteban loaiza (k3vin k.), Friday, 19 December 2008 18:20 (fifteen years ago) link
nabisco did
― t_g, Friday, 19 December 2008 18:21 (fifteen years ago) link
oh ok yeah i honestly didnt know
― suggesteban loaiza (k3vin k.), Friday, 19 December 2008 18:29 (fifteen years ago) link
I Pitchfork not going to post individual writers' lists this year? Or did I miss them?
― Dan S, Friday, 19 December 2008 18:32 (fifteen years ago) link
You missed them: http://www.pitchforkmedia.com/article/feature/148119-2008-albums-of-the-year-individual-lists
― Matos W.K., Friday, 19 December 2008 18:34 (fifteen years ago) link
tracks list too:http://www.pitchforkmedia.com/article/feature/148119-2008-albums-of-the-year-individual-lists
― grinchyschneider (some dude), Friday, 19 December 2008 18:34 (fifteen years ago) link
tracks: http://www.pitchforkmedia.com/article/feature/148118-2008-tracks-of-the-year-individual-lists
xpost
― Matos W.K., Friday, 19 December 2008 18:36 (fifteen years ago) link
This is the first year in awhile that I didn't roll my eyes at PFM's #1 album pick. Not my favorite album of the year, but at least it isn't Joanna Newsom (or Panda Bear) Sufjan Stevens.
Corrected.
― ilxor, Friday, 19 December 2008 18:39 (fifteen years ago) link
Thanks Matos
― Dan S, Friday, 19 December 2008 18:40 (fifteen years ago) link
hmm, of montreal was on four lists, pretty high up on a few. compare this with, say, #50 ponytail, which was on two lists.
― suggesteban loaiza (k3vin k.), Friday, 19 December 2008 18:41 (fifteen years ago) link
Looks like while the Fleet Foxes album was #1 overall, it was only placed #1 on a single writer's individual list. By comparison, Deerhunter and Cut Copy were placed #1 on three lists apiece, while Hercules and Love Affair, Earth and Arthur Russell all placed #1 on two writers' lists apiece.
― ilxor, Friday, 19 December 2008 18:52 (fifteen years ago) link
the responsible ones:
>> Brian Howe2. Wale: The Mixtape About Nothing
>> Eric Harvey1. Wale: The Mixtape About Nothing
>> Jayson Greene4. Wale: The Mixtape About Nothing
― abanana, Friday, 19 December 2008 18:53 (fifteen years ago) link
the responsible onesthe responsible onesthe responsible onesthe responsible onesthe responsible onesthe responsible onesthe responsible onesthe responsible ones
― Matos W.K., Friday, 19 December 2008 19:15 (fifteen years ago) link
looks like the era of beanie sigel ending up on pf end of year lists is long gone huh
― please don't stop the usic (J0rdan S.), Friday, 19 December 2008 19:30 (fifteen years ago) link
Sig's album was merely good.
― USICMAKEULOSECONTROL (The Reverend), Friday, 19 December 2008 19:39 (fifteen years ago) link
yeahhh suggesteban, looks like an executive decision (and holding fast to their 5.9) trumped the math there on Of Montreal; it does not seem to add up, not at all
― yoshinorimike, Friday, 19 December 2008 19:46 (fifteen years ago) link
OH MY GOD MAYBE THEY DONT RUN THEIR EDITORIAL LIKE A DEMOCRACY WHAT WILL WE DO?!?!?!?!
― touch me i'm usic (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, 19 December 2008 19:48 (fifteen years ago) link
i never cried foul, whiney.
― suggesteban loaiza (k3vin k.), Friday, 19 December 2008 19:50 (fifteen years ago) link
Of Montreal were nowhere close: Only five votes, two in the top 10. Ponytail, on the other hand, were on 10 ballots, including once in the top 10. You vote for 50 albums, plus you allocate points to your top 25-- you can't just look at those lists as published and determine anything.
― scottpl, Friday, 19 December 2008 20:02 (fifteen years ago) link
ok thanks scott
― suggesteban loaiza (k3vin k.), Friday, 19 December 2008 20:04 (fifteen years ago) link
thought it was nice Badu was high up there, did they even review that record?
they reviewed it like 3 months after it came out or something, as they obv didn't think erykah badu was an artist worthy of their attention until it was obvious how much consensus there was around new amerykah. which says a lot about their editorial priorities!
thumbs up for the cave17 list btw, excellent top 2 and some interesting choices in there (like, raveonettes is the kind of indie that i'm not 100% down with myself, but i do love a single here and there by them and it's not what you'd expect to see on EoY lists) (and so far more welcome than fucking fleet foxezzzzzzz again). we should be talking more about the cave17 list, not the pfork one.
― lex pretend, Friday, 19 December 2008 20:35 (fifteen years ago) link
also impressed at cave17 getting the anthony hamilton in there - released, what, four days ago?
― lex pretend, Friday, 19 December 2008 20:37 (fifteen years ago) link
The Cave17 list has Flight Of The Fucking Conchords on it, so no.
― touch me i'm usic (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, 19 December 2008 20:37 (fifteen years ago) link
haha we are DISQUALIFIED :[]
― Dimension 5ive, Friday, 19 December 2008 20:41 (fifteen years ago) link
yeah, Flight of the Conchords at #4 was the weirdest thing about the list to me
― USICMAKEULOSECONTROL (The Reverend), Friday, 19 December 2008 20:53 (fifteen years ago) link
btw Matos, thanking u so much for the soulbounce lists!
― USICMAKEULOSECONTROL (The Reverend), Friday, 19 December 2008 20:58 (fifteen years ago) link
in re: Flight of the Conchords: We have a small staff, two people rated it very highly, end of story. Don't understand why there is any confusion. Me and my son love "Robots" because it is funny but it wasn't on my list either.
(Boring semi-defensive comment: I guess comedy records don't count unless they are hip records by hipsters like David Cross or Patton Oswalt?)
― Dimension 5ive, Friday, 19 December 2008 21:02 (fifteen years ago) link
I do need to track down the A. Hamilton
― USICMAKEULOSECONTROL (The Reverend), Friday, 19 December 2008 21:03 (fifteen years ago) link
xpost Comedy records count if they are funny.
― nah bisco right (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, 19 December 2008 21:04 (fifteen years ago) link
I like Conchords much more on TV, but the record is well made, which apparently this year counts for a ton. (Hey, my favorite album is Ne-Yo, so I oughta know, right?)
I posted my top 100 tracks on my blog if anyone wants to look:http://m-matos.blogspot.com/2008/12/fuck-it-ive-tweaked-it-long-enough-and.html
― Matos W.K., Friday, 19 December 2008 21:07 (fifteen years ago) link
Wow Matos, maybe someday I'll hear like six of these
My biggest disappointment this year is not hearing more from Brazil; Gilberto Gil had 2 records out this year and CSS sure but I am just out of touch these days, my contacts down there have dried up (LOL optometry humor)
― Dimension 5ive, Friday, 19 December 2008 21:12 (fifteen years ago) link
Babe, Terror is a great Brazil 08 joint, d5: http://www.myspace.com/babeterror
― nah bisco right (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, 19 December 2008 21:14 (fifteen years ago) link
this not my cup of caipirinha, chris, but thanks. although we should probably keep our semi-beef alive so i can get tons of publicity for SCRAPPY LITTLE CAVE17.COM
i was hoping for albums from some of my fave rave indie brazilian people but they didnt happen yet, tudo bem
― Dimension 5ive, Friday, 19 December 2008 21:19 (fifteen years ago) link
(like, raveonettes is the kind of indie that i'm not 100% down with myself, but i do love a single here and there by them and it's not what you'd expect to see on EoY lists) (and so far more welcome than fucking fleet foxezzzzzzz again).
The Pfork list would make a lot more sense if the Raveonettes album took the place of Fleet Foxes. It's a fucking great record, my #1 for a few months early in the year, and I think the comparisons to Psychocandy are on target. I'd venture to say if Lust Lust Lust was released in 1985, and Psychocandy in 2008, then Lust would be the stone cold classic Psychocandy has instead become.
I love both albums, mind you.
― ilxor, Friday, 19 December 2008 22:52 (fifteen years ago) link
I really like the Raveonettes album, but that is just rong rong rong.
― jon /via/ chi 2.0, Friday, 19 December 2008 22:55 (fifteen years ago) link
http://www.pitchforkmedia.com/sites/default/files/36.jpg"Just your average Hasidic reggae rapper. Yeah, you heard me. This guy is a straight-up Hasidic Jew from New York who busts mad flow over dancehall and reggae beats. This is the future of music." --Sam Endicott, the Bravery in The Guardian
― abanana, Friday, 19 December 2008 23:02 (fifteen years ago) link
I'd like to add my voice to the "Wale is boring" chorus.
― usic concrète (The Reverend), Friday, 19 December 2008 23:06 (fifteen years ago) link
I saw him on MTV Jams today and it was pretty WTF.
― the ref (ed hochuli ha ha) (call all destroyer), Friday, 19 December 2008 23:07 (fifteen years ago) link