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I am no huge fan of "Say Say Say", but it probably would have benefited from Quincy Jones producing instead of George Martin, while "The Girl Is Mine" might have worked with Martin producing.

Hongroe (Geir Hongro), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 10:11 (twelve years ago) link

Btw. I consider "The Man" to be the best of those three songs they did together. :)

Hongroe (Geir Hongro), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 10:13 (twelve years ago) link

Can't hear Human Nature without being transported back to shit teenage house parties, circa 11pm. The vomit is drying on the carpet, one girl is crying on the stairs, the hard kids are ransacking the host's parents' bedroom. Then Human Nature comes on the stereo, and three couples take to the floor to "slow dance" and snog awkwardly while everyone else just wishes their fucking lifts home would arrive.

Trudi Styler, the Creator (ithappens), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 10:15 (twelve years ago) link

Jackson could sing low—down to a basso low C

A lot of very famous people (JLennon for instance) had two signatures, one for autographs and one for contracts/cheques/etc.

I think MJackson had two speaking voices, one deeper one for normal business/work/private use, and the high one for fans/interviews/public.

Mark G, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 10:21 (twelve years ago) link

While I was aware of Michael Jackson as a kid in the 80s, I didn't really get round to hearing any of his albums until much much later. I therefore can't help thinking of SWV's excellent Right Here when I hear Human Nature.

Sonny Chevrotain (dog latin), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 10:25 (twelve years ago) link

I'd love to here some basso MJ singing.

Sonny Chevrotain (dog latin), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 10:25 (twelve years ago) link

I think MJackson had two speaking voices, one deeper one for normal business/work/private use, and the high one for fans/interviews/public.

Lisa Marie says this is the case.

TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 10:37 (twelve years ago) link

I think John Noakes was the same.

Mark G, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 10:39 (twelve years ago) link

I challopsilly voted for The Girl Is Mine. This is a great album, but I've heard some of these songs a billion times, whereas TGIM is technically a deep cut. And yeah, it's kind of rubbish, if not crepey, but it's also kind of charming in its way. I have a perverse liking of McCartney in the mid-'80s (I share Geir's love of the Tug Of War album), so yeah... Iff this were Bad, I'd be all over the hits - Smooth Criminal being maybe my first favourite independently-heard song.

Sonny Chevrotain (dog latin), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 10:46 (twelve years ago) link

technically a deep cut lead single that peaked at #2 on the Hot 100

✇ ruehl (some dude), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 10:52 (twelve years ago) link

it was a single? my bad.

Sonny Chevrotain (dog latin), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 10:54 (twelve years ago) link

*slopes off to another thread*

Sonny Chevrotain (dog latin), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 10:54 (twelve years ago) link

in fairness to dog latin, TGIM has the same problem "I Just Can't Stop Loving You" -- a huge hit that somehow no one associates with the album.

a 'catch-all', almost humorous, 'Jeez' quality (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 10:59 (twelve years ago) link

Both those had no video at the time, so both were 'low-key' singles, ahead of the big hitters which didn't need a "Hey hey new album soon, check this lead track" hype to hit top spot(s).

Mark G, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 11:03 (twelve years ago) link

In fact, they never did this until "Black or White" which, um, had a fair bit of video-promotion...

Mark G, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 11:03 (twelve years ago) link

yeah...and not having a video while being off an album with several hugely famous videos (xpost)

✇ ruehl (some dude), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 11:04 (twelve years ago) link

I can only remember maybe 2-3 singles off of Dangerous, and yet there were something like 7 or 8 of them released. This was when I was most exposed to chart countdowns and whatnot as well.

Sonny Chevrotain (dog latin), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 11:07 (twelve years ago) link

i remember the first 4 Dangerous videos all getting big splashy premieres on MTV and heavy rotation afterward, and "Heal The World," thought not a huge hit, felt annoyingly ubiquitous later on

✇ ruehl (some dude), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 11:29 (twelve years ago) link

feel like everyones gonna rep for dif songs then billie jean will crush all

ice cr?m, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 11:31 (twelve years ago) link

ILM seems like a place where "Wanna Be Startin' Somethin'" or "Human Nature" could stage an upset imo

✇ ruehl (some dude), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 11:38 (twelve years ago) link

hey dudes im upping this ron g blend of human nature for you cause its bananas http://www.mediafire.com/?xcs4uix1cri2f7m

ice cr?m, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 11:43 (twelve years ago) link

"wanna be startin' something" would be my second choice. watching tracy morgan chant "mamasaymamasamamakoosa" onstage in prospect park was cathartic right after mike kicked it was way cathartic

reggie (qualmsley), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 11:53 (twelve years ago) link

yes, doubly cathartic . . . and apparently i need my morning caffeine

reggie (qualmsley), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 11:59 (twelve years ago) link

"beat it", which feels like a choice out of character but is also pretty unhesitating

lex pretend, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 12:09 (twelve years ago) link

oh wait "p.y.t." actually

lex pretend, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 12:36 (twelve years ago) link

ILM seems like a place where "Wanna Be Startin' Somethin'" or "Human Nature" could stage an upset imo

Voted "Wanna Be Startin' Something."

Gus Van Sant's Gerry Blank (Eric H.), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 12:50 (twelve years ago) link

ILM seems like a place where "Wanna Be Startin' Somethin'" or "Human Nature" could stage an upset imo

I fully expect these to be #2 and #3 (behind '[/i]')

now I have to imagine your penis (DJP), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 12:52 (twelve years ago) link

i voted [/i] jah rastafari

ice cr?m, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 13:51 (twelve years ago) link

Nothing is bad on this album, but "I Wanna Be Startin' Something", "The Girl Is Mine" and "The Lady In My Life" are the only tracks that aren't downright great.

Hongroe (Geir Hongro), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 14:22 (twelve years ago) link

Wow do i disagree w/ you (at least about the first two)

notorious ilx wet noodle (remy bean), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 14:25 (twelve years ago) link

Well, the first *is* great, the next is bad, and the last I don't remember.

Mark G, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 14:37 (twelve years ago) link

Used to really love "I Wanna Be Startin' Something". It still sounds marvellous (like virtually anything produced by Quincy Jones at that time), but I feel the song becomes a bit too repetitive and mantra-like after a while. No bad track in any way, but doesn't have the magic that most of the others do.

On the other hand, "Baby Be Mine", a non-single which is often overlooked, is one of my definite fave tracks off the entire album.

Hongroe (Geir Hongro), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 14:52 (twelve years ago) link

Baby Be Mine is awesome.

Lady in My Life is the only one that seems like it could've been done by a lesser R&B singer of the time. Also, it sounds like he says "I will love you, Morris Day".

corey, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 14:57 (twelve years ago) link

feel like everyones gonna rep for dif songs then billie jean will crush all

― ice cr?m, Wednesday, August 31, 2011 2:31 PM (3 hours ago) Bookmark

yep

NoTimeBeforeTime, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 14:58 (twelve years ago) link

the song becomes a bit ... mantra-like after a while

Bingo.

Gus Van Sant's Gerry Blank (Eric H.), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 14:59 (twelve years ago) link

Realize now that many of my all-time Jackson tracks were composed by Rod Temperton.

Hongroe (Geir Hongro), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 15:00 (twelve years ago) link

Of course he also wrote all those great Heatwave hits, and "Razzamatazz" and "Yah Mo B There" and "Sweet Freedom". LA needs more Brits ;)

Hongroe (Geir Hongro), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 15:03 (twelve years ago) link

And "Stomp!" and "Give Me The Night".... Damn... Genius...

Hongroe (Geir Hongro), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 15:04 (twelve years ago) link

Wanna Be Starting Something sounds more like a cut from Off The Wall than anything else off the album. A pure dance/disco track.

Sonny Chevrotain (dog latin), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 15:12 (twelve years ago) link

On the topic of Michael Jackson's low voice, I did find this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6jl2VKqHRJw

MarkoP, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 15:18 (twelve years ago) link

kind of feel like throwing a vote to thriller since it isnt coming up here much but man wanna be startin' somethin is kinda unbeatable

also yeah say say say is all time great

dougie instructor (jjjusten), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 15:35 (twelve years ago) link

I'm going to vote for "The Girl is Mine" because I just listened to it again and it's such a warm record.

a 'catch-all', almost humorous, 'Jeez' quality (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 15:53 (twelve years ago) link

I like the bridge a lot. But most of it is, um, not "Startin' Something."

Gus Van Sant's Gerry Blank (Eric H.), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 15:56 (twelve years ago) link

i can't vote for girl is mine but i think it's hilarious and i never got why everyone in the universe is so uptight about it.

the-dream in the witch house (difficult listening hour), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 15:58 (twelve years ago) link

For a bad song, Girl Is Mine is a pretty good song.

Sonny Chevrotain (dog latin), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 15:59 (twelve years ago) link

how is "Girl is Mine" a bad song? I'm curious. It's at worst innocuous in a touching way.

a 'catch-all', almost humorous, 'Jeez' quality (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 16:02 (twelve years ago) link

it's on thriller, usually seems to be the idea

the-dream in the witch house (difficult listening hour), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 16:02 (twelve years ago) link

(and isn't at the safely ignorable end like whatever "the lady in my life" is)

the-dream in the witch house (difficult listening hour), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 16:04 (twelve years ago) link

I don't ignore "The Lady In My Life"; I'd vote for it above everything except "Human Nature" & "Billie Jean". The cascading synths & Michael's ascending vocals at the end are magnificent.

Euler, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 16:05 (twelve years ago) link


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