― fiddo centington (dubplatestyle), Monday, 8 December 2003 21:56 (twenty years ago) link
― fiddo centington (dubplatestyle), Monday, 8 December 2003 21:58 (twenty years ago) link
― chuck, Monday, 8 December 2003 22:01 (twenty years ago) link
― chuck, Monday, 8 December 2003 22:03 (twenty years ago) link
Anyway, Webster's defines it as a hoax or sham, and credits it to "British slang." I would imagine the genealogy goes back centuries.
― bugged out, Monday, 8 December 2003 22:08 (twenty years ago) link
― Marcel Post (Marcel Post), Monday, 8 December 2003 22:12 (twenty years ago) link
― gaz (gaz), Monday, 8 December 2003 22:15 (twenty years ago) link
Anyway, I was just thinking how much I love cod reggae--"Redondo Beach", "Mother and Child Reunion", "Do You Really Want to Hurt Me". Those are three of my favorite songs. We should do a POO cod reggae thread.
― Arthur (Arthur), Monday, 8 December 2003 22:50 (twenty years ago) link
― bad jode (Jody Beth Rosen), Monday, 8 December 2003 22:52 (twenty years ago) link
― gaz (gaz), Monday, 8 December 2003 22:58 (twenty years ago) link
― fiddo centington (dubplatestyle), Monday, 8 December 2003 22:59 (twenty years ago) link
― fiddo centington (dubplatestyle), Monday, 8 December 2003 23:02 (twenty years ago) link
― N. (nickdastoor), Monday, 8 December 2003 23:08 (twenty years ago) link
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― gaz (gaz), Monday, 8 December 2003 23:20 (twenty years ago) link
― Arthur (Arthur), Monday, 8 December 2003 23:41 (twenty years ago) link
codpiece, bagged appendage to front of men's breeches, comes from the Middle English (1150-1500) cod, meaning scrotum.
― chris j (chris j), Monday, 8 December 2003 23:46 (twenty years ago) link
― Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Monday, 8 December 2003 23:47 (twenty years ago) link
― chris j (chris j), Monday, 8 December 2003 23:50 (twenty years ago) link
― N. (nickdastoor), Monday, 8 December 2003 23:50 (twenty years ago) link
― Matt Helgeson (Matt Helgeson), Tuesday, 9 December 2003 00:03 (twenty years ago) link
I recall an NME review which described something as "haddock-reggae". I like that.
― DJ Mencap (DJ Mencap), Tuesday, 9 December 2003 11:11 (twenty years ago) link
What does "cod reggae" have to do with fish, anyway?
― Old Fart!!! (oldfart_sd), Tuesday, 9 December 2003 17:02 (twenty years ago) link
― nickn (nickn), Tuesday, 9 December 2003 21:11 (twenty years ago) link
― Matt Helgeson (Matt Helgeson), Tuesday, 9 December 2003 21:30 (twenty years ago) link
― Sterling Clover (s_clover), Wednesday, 10 December 2003 04:09 (twenty years ago) link
― adam b (adam b), Wednesday, 10 December 2003 04:30 (twenty years ago) link
You're floundering there, Old Fart.
― Old Fart!!! (oldfart_sd), Wednesday, 10 December 2003 09:46 (twenty years ago) link
― mark s (mark s), Wednesday, 10 December 2003 10:56 (twenty years ago) link
― Jay Kid (Jay K), Wednesday, 10 December 2003 11:02 (twenty years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sa4htpW5YRM&videos=JENjnQi-RuM&playnext_from=TL&playnext=1
― brews before HOOS (s1ocki), Monday, 1 February 2010 20:25 (fourteen years ago) link
Shame this blog never took off.
― stan this sick bunt (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 14 March 2012 02:05 (twelve years ago) link
Old Fart!!!
― utopian dipshit (buzza), Wednesday, 14 March 2012 02:51 (twelve years ago) link
i saw that youtube as i scrolled down and got excited and then realized i posted it.
― A Little Princess btw (s1ocki), Wednesday, 14 March 2012 04:24 (twelve years ago) link
Ummm... So I happened to catch (insanely popular but never-before-mentioned-on-ILM whiteboy London reggae band) the Skints at a local festival on Saturday, and I'm slightly ashamed to say they were a lot of fun. And that's it.
― I ain't got no bites / Bad itches is the only thing that I like (dog latin), Tuesday, 23 June 2015 13:23 (eight years ago) link
What was the story recently about somebody noting that codpieces were way too small in some production. Was it after Wolf Hall?Anyway has me thinking that a cod piece was actually a misleading advertisement and the negative derivation might come from there.Could of course go back to the source word referring to the scrotum though.
But I think cod has been used to mean ersatz for a very long time, presumably centuries.
― Stevolende, Tuesday, 23 June 2015 13:38 (eight years ago) link
I only ever hear it appended to the word 'reggae' for some reason though. makes me think of someone playing reggae in a tuxedo for some reason? no idea why.
― I ain't got no bites / Bad itches is the only thing that I like (dog latin), Tuesday, 23 June 2015 13:43 (eight years ago) link
The Word Detective: Cod (mock)
“Cod” meaning “phony” has been British slang since the early 20th century, and although “cod” to me immediately conjures up visions of fish and chips, the connection of this “cod” to that is open to question. “Cod,” apart from fishy uses, has actually been slang since the late 17th century, but its original sense (for our purposes here) was to mean “fellow” (especially an old man) or, a bit more pungently, “fool” (“Ye vile drunken cod,” 1878). Some authorities have proposed that this “cod” was actually short for “codger,” meaning “a stingy and/or peculiar old man.” But apparently “cod” in this sense is found in the written record earlier than “codger,” so that explanation is considered dubious (although not impossible, given the spotty nature of the written record in that period).Another possibility, favored by the eminent etymologist Eric Partridge, is that “cod” in the “old fool” sense was short for the derogatory term “cod head,” i.e., as empty of sense as a fish’s head. This sense of mindlessness might then have evolved to mean “without substance” or “phony.” In any case, we can consider ourselves lucky to have such a nifty little modifier as “cod” to quietly signal “fake.”
Another possibility, favored by the eminent etymologist Eric Partridge, is that “cod” in the “old fool” sense was short for the derogatory term “cod head,” i.e., as empty of sense as a fish’s head. This sense of mindlessness might then have evolved to mean “without substance” or “phony.” In any case, we can consider ourselves lucky to have such a nifty little modifier as “cod” to quietly signal “fake.”
Barely worth noting that the roast fish eaten in Jamaica for the better part of 300 years (with sides of collie weed and corn bread) was salted cod from the grand banks of Newfoundland.
― We'd like to conduct a wobulator test here (Sanpaku), Tuesday, 23 June 2015 18:31 (eight years ago) link
“In Elizabethan England you will only find small codpieces. Large ones, stuffed with wool and looking like an erect male member, are out of date” ― Ian Mortimer, The Time Traveller's Guide to Elizabethan England
And from some review:
Basically, the long, loose-fitting and rather modest clothes of 1300 changed – more quickly than in any other century, apparently – into the tight, often revealing and ostentatious dress of 1400. Men’s tunics became ‘court-pieces’, short enough to reveal buttocks at the back and suggestive bulges at the front. (There is no etymological link with ‘codpieces’: I checked in the OED.)
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 23 June 2015 18:42 (eight years ago) link
Interestingly enough, from The Dictionary Of American Slang (c. 1960):
codd v.t. To fool or bluff a person. Some c1909 N. Eng. dial. use. Obs.
I bet the New Englanders got it from Olde England, though.
― xhuxk, Tuesday, 23 June 2015 18:54 (eight years ago) link
it's everyday usage in Ireland fy
― irl lol (darraghmac), Tuesday, 23 June 2015 23:00 (eight years ago) link
I only ever hear it appended to the word 'reggae' for some reason though. makes me think of someone playing reggae in a tuxedo for some reason? no idea why.― I ain't got no bites / Bad itches is the only thing that I like (dog latin), Tuesday, 23 June 2015 13:43 (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
"Dog Latin, also known as Cod Latin, macaronic Latin, mock Latin, or Canis Latinicus,[1] refers to the creation of a phrase or jargon in imitation of Latin..."
Just keep lining them up, dl, and we'll keep smashing them out of the ground..
― The Manner of Crawly (Tom D.), Wednesday, 24 June 2015 09:25 (eight years ago) link
codd v.t. To fool or bluff a person
surely related to 'kid' amirite?
― feargal czukay (NickB), Wednesday, 24 June 2015 09:29 (eight years ago) link
And behind the door of one of the closets there was a drawing in red pencil of a bearded man in a Roman dress with a brick in each hand and underneath was the name of the drawing:
Balbus was building a wall.
Some fellow had drawn it there for a cod. It had a funny face but it was very like a man with a beard.
― 2 jazz boys 1 jazz cup (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 24 June 2015 09:49 (eight years ago) link
THere's cod inteligentsia or cod intellectual or something similar too.THink I may have heard cod classical used for populist orchestral fare too.
& I think I've heard cod mystical.Seems to be somewhat exchangeable with the word pseudo
― Stevolende, Wednesday, 24 June 2015 14:52 (eight years ago) link
related:
codswallop
Alternative forms:cod's wallop
Etymology
Unknown, attested from 1959 episode of UK TV series Hancock’s Half Hour. The writers (Galton and Simpson) state that the phrase was in general use when the show was broadcast.[1][2] A national TV appeal in the UK in 2006 failed to find earlier references.[1] Originally written (1963) codswallop, spelling cod's wallop is later.
Various etymologies are proposed from some sense of cod, such as from cod (“scrotum”) (as in codpiece), from cod (“joke, imitation”)[1] + wallop (“beer (slang)”), hence cod + wallop “imitation beer” (with interconsonantal -s- to ease pronunciation of -dw-), or from cod (“fish”) (some part of the fish, as from fishing industry).
― feargal czukay (NickB), Wednesday, 24 June 2015 15:20 (eight years ago) link
Walloper
― holger sharkey (Tom D.), Wednesday, 24 June 2015 15:55 (eight years ago) link
- Bob Marlin
― Mark G, Wednesday, 24 June 2015 20:54 (eight years ago) link
Reggae all about the Bass
― holger sharkey (Tom D.), Wednesday, 24 June 2015 21:03 (eight years ago) link
Lee Catch Perry
― cod latin (dog latin), Wednesday, 24 June 2015 21:23 (eight years ago) link
Or Fish Catch Perchy or something
― cod latin (dog latin), Wednesday, 24 June 2015 21:24 (eight years ago) link
p sure it derives from codicil
― irl lol (darraghmac), Wednesday, 24 June 2015 23:04 (eight years ago) link
http://www.rodstewart.com/tag/another-country/
It also gave me the freedom to experiment with different sounds like reggae
Cod Stewart
― the bowels are not what they seem (aldo), Thursday, 25 June 2015 09:10 (eight years ago) link
I'm years late but here's an article on "cod reggae".
http://thequietus.com/articles/17129-the-joy-of-cod-reggae
― FauxReal, Tuesday, 24 May 2016 06:08 (eight years ago) link
i'm surprised i'd never come across this before.
― TARANTINO! (dog latin), Tuesday, 24 May 2016 07:57 (eight years ago) link
I'm surprised that playlist is so bad.
― Larry 'Leg' Smith (Tom D.), Tuesday, 24 May 2016 08:04 (eight years ago) link
... bad at illustrating cod reggae, that is, not bad musically.
― Larry 'Leg' Smith (Tom D.), Tuesday, 24 May 2016 08:05 (eight years ago) link
After posting the Quietus article to FB, a friend replied with
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0dVseBq-MSA
― juggulo for the complete klvtz (bendy), Tuesday, 24 May 2016 21:15 (eight years ago) link
Not only that but the word 'cod' is the memorable centrepiece of this monologue that proves forever that Irish football punditry is better than the backslapping former pro world of the BBC, even if it's arguably wrong in hindsight.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WsuovF1pzJ0
― the_ecuador_three, Tuesday, 24 May 2016 22:34 (eight years ago) link
― The Klosterman Weeknd (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 25 May 2016 10:11 (eight years ago) link
Just hearing "Seaside Woman, by Linda McCartney, for the first time. Seems to be made for this thread.
― Raw Like Siouxsie (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 9 December 2021 23:04 (two years ago) link
It's undeniably terrible.
― When Smeato Met Moaty (Tom D.), Thursday, 9 December 2021 23:11 (two years ago) link
Good B-side though!
― Alba, Friday, 10 December 2021 13:43 (two years ago) link
Was not prepared for this Guess Who Cod Reggae cringefest I just heard on SiriusXM:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=va0o6dU6rlI
― an icon of a worried-looking, long-haired, bespectacled man (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 1 April 2024 03:23 (two months ago) link
i regret to inform you that that's calypso
― budo jeru, Monday, 1 April 2024 16:45 (two months ago) link
faux-lypso i should say
― budo jeru, Monday, 1 April 2024 16:46 (two months ago) link
"Cod-lypso" was right there.
― an icon of a worried-looking, long-haired, bespectacled man (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 1 April 2024 16:57 (two months ago) link
yes, not really reggae ;-) it's got a sort of Donovan vibe hasn't it?
but corny dudes trying to go reggae is a guilty pleasure of mine, I have to admit. Especially when it's Laid Back doing it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bNowU63PF5E
― your mom goes to limgrave (dog latin), Tuesday, 2 April 2024 08:49 (two months ago) link
O wombe! O bely! O stinking cod, Fulfild of donge and of corrupcioun! At either ende of thee foul is the soun.
― fetter, Tuesday, 2 April 2024 11:45 (two months ago) link