I'll take that road over the Time and a Word road any day, thanks. At least it's not, well, boring as piss.
And I DID upgrade my browser -- AMG just doesn't work on Safari that well (no cookies, apparently). It's only when I look at it on my PC that I remember how much the new version blows.
― Naive Teen Idol (Naive Teen Idol), Wednesday, 17 November 2004 05:21 (nineteen years ago) link
― wetmink (wetmink), Wednesday, 17 November 2004 05:26 (nineteen years ago) link
― Naive Teen Idol (Naive Teen Idol), Wednesday, 17 November 2004 05:28 (nineteen years ago) link
that he's the most down-to-earth yes-man is nice, but kinda beside the point -- isn't the POINT of yes that they're NOT down-to-earth? if i had to spend time with a yes-er, i'd actually rather spend time talking w/ jon anderson (even if 99.999% of what would come outta his mouth would be new agey malarkey) or drinking w/ chris squire.
this 1984 concept-album sounds pretty interesting, at least as kevin describes it. chaka khan -- SCREAMING orwell vocals?!? how could you NOT wanna hear that?!?
― Eisbär (llamasfur), Wednesday, 17 November 2004 05:29 (nineteen years ago) link
― eddie hurt (ddduncan), Wednesday, 17 November 2004 14:57 (nineteen years ago) link
If you honestly think that Hendrix was all about technique and not songwriting, then you simply can't have properly listened to him. In three years, Jimi recorded far more worthwhile music than Wakeman managed in thirty.
― Palomino (Palomino), Thursday, 18 November 2004 00:09 (nineteen years ago) link
― Kevin Gilchrist (Mr Fusion), Thursday, 18 November 2004 01:13 (nineteen years ago) link
― Hurting (Hurting), Thursday, 18 November 2004 01:37 (nineteen years ago) link
― Naive Teen Idol (Naive Teen Idol), Thursday, 18 November 2004 01:43 (nineteen years ago) link
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But that Rick Wakeman story is true - I had an old biography of his which tells the tale. It was the "Tales from topographic oceans" tour and during one interminable song, Rick mouthed to his keyboard roadie - who sat under the stage keeping his Moogs in tune - that he fancied a curry later. Said roadie mishears and disappears for fifteen minutes, returning with a big bag of curry, rice, popadums, bhahis etc, which Rick proceeds to eat during a drum solo. Chris Squier was annoyed about it at the time, but Jon Anderson enjoyed it so much he came over and shared a popadum and bhaji.
(It didn't help that Rick was the only non-veggie in the band at the time so he couldn't really share the chicken vindaloo with the others).
Sorry, X-post again.
-- Rob M (durutti24...), October 23rd, 2003.
― Eisbär (llamasfur), Thursday, 18 November 2004 02:19 (nineteen years ago) link
― geeta (geeta), Thursday, 18 November 2004 02:49 (nineteen years ago) link
― Ian John50n (orion), Thursday, 18 November 2004 03:26 (nineteen years ago) link
― Hurting (Hurting), Thursday, 18 November 2004 04:00 (nineteen years ago) link
― Hurting (Hurting), Thursday, 18 November 2004 04:02 (nineteen years ago) link
Macrobiotic, dude. Macrobiotic.
― Naive Teen Idol (Naive Teen Idol), Thursday, 18 November 2004 04:30 (nineteen years ago) link
― Rickey Wright (Rrrickey), Thursday, 18 November 2004 07:23 (nineteen years ago) link
― Rickey Wright (Rrrickey), Thursday, 18 November 2004 07:25 (nineteen years ago) link
― Rickey Wright (Rrrickey), Thursday, 18 November 2004 07:41 (nineteen years ago) link
― Rickey Wright (Rrrickey), Thursday, 18 November 2004 07:48 (nineteen years ago) link
I can't fucking believe the shit that the keyboardist on the glorious Yes Album is taking. Joe v OTM - what he played was perfect for those songs, whereas Wakeman could sometimes be really intrusive and overbearing. The organs and the jam on "Good People"! The organ riff on "Starship Trooper"! Also Moraz deserves major props.
Despite Wakeman's flaws, mind you, no one who played "South Side of the Sky" and "Siberian Khatru" is anything close to indefensible. He did get some classic sounds out of the keyboard - I love his bits on "And You and I" and nick is right about the synth float on "Heart of the Sunrise". And I'm surprised Ned doesn't even like "Long Distance Runaround".
― sundar subramanian (sundar), Thursday, 18 November 2004 08:44 (nineteen years ago) link
― jake b. (cerybut), Thursday, 18 November 2004 09:27 (nineteen years ago) link
― Snowy Mann (rdmanston), Thursday, 18 November 2004 11:22 (nineteen years ago) link
(which nonetheless has an amazing first couple of minutes....as if Propaganda/ZTT had appeared 10 yrs earlier as mid-70's south american prog-rockers !)
― Snowy Mann (rdmanston), Thursday, 18 November 2004 11:33 (nineteen years ago) link
That's three chords — and Kaye didn't even write them.
― Naive Teen Idol (Naive Teen Idol), Thursday, 18 November 2004 15:18 (nineteen years ago) link
― Jay Vee (Manon_70), Thursday, 18 November 2004 16:13 (nineteen years ago) link
this along with Wives, and King Arthur are 3 wonderfully OTT albums for when your 14>16 and haven't discovered Foetus/ON-U Sound yet
.. then to be hidden deep in the archive forever after.
he was also one of the first Rock stars to ever respond to a sad fanboy letter ..
i'm revealing wayyyy too much here .. but hey ..
and live in 1984 Braford St Georges hall - he was quality (again, i was still within the predefined 14-16 years of age)
but damn - when the dude is bad he is seriously bad .. 'rock-n-roll prophet' album .. WTF ..
― mark e (mark e), Thursday, 18 November 2004 16:41 (nineteen years ago) link
― sundar subramanian (sundar), Thursday, 18 November 2004 18:27 (nineteen years ago) link
and while Tony Kaye was sort of neutral, I like that Hammond sound he got on "Yes Album," and "Yours is No Disgrace" does utilize the I-IV-VII progression (I think it's B-flat pedal tone with B-flat/E-flat-B-flat 7 sus 4 there) well.
― eddie hurt (ddduncan), Thursday, 18 November 2004 19:08 (nineteen years ago) link
― Naive Teen Idol (Naive Teen Idol), Thursday, 18 November 2004 19:12 (nineteen years ago) link
― eddie hurt (ddduncan), Thursday, 18 November 2004 19:17 (nineteen years ago) link
It's sorta goofy.
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 18 November 2004 19:21 (nineteen years ago) link
― eddie hurt (ddduncan), Thursday, 18 November 2004 19:32 (nineteen years ago) link
A MONKEY, eh. Apparently you've never heard Kaye on 9012Live: The Solos.
― savetherobot, Thursday, 18 November 2004 19:49 (nineteen years ago) link
― Naive Teen Idol (Naive Teen Idol), Thursday, 18 November 2004 19:58 (nineteen years ago) link
Give it up for the white-haired wonder!
http://www.dhc.net/~krobert/yes/a_rick_2.jpg
― wetmink (wetmink), Thursday, 18 November 2004 20:30 (nineteen years ago) link
― wetmink (wetmink), Thursday, 18 November 2004 20:39 (nineteen years ago) link
I admit I haven't heard Rick's solo LPs, but only because I don't want to.
― Myonga Von Bontee (Myonga Von Bontee), Thursday, 18 November 2004 20:45 (nineteen years ago) link
I have nothing against Tony Kaye. I do, however, find the notion of praising his abilities to be patently ludicrous on its face. The guy stayed out of the way — that's it, folks.
― Naive Teen Idol (Naive Teen Idol), Thursday, 18 November 2004 20:55 (nineteen years ago) link
― wetmink (wetmink), Thursday, 18 November 2004 20:59 (nineteen years ago) link
I should note, however, that Robert Fripp once gave Bill Bruford a writing credit for choosing not to interrupt an improvisation by playing. Perhaps he learned such restraint from his time spent in Yes with The Indomitable Tony Kaye!
― Naive Teen Idol (Naive Teen Idol), Thursday, 18 November 2004 21:02 (nineteen years ago) link
― wetmink (wetmink), Thursday, 18 November 2004 21:28 (nineteen years ago) link
― wetmink (wetmink), Thursday, 18 November 2004 21:30 (nineteen years ago) link
Listen to 90125. The man added practically nada to the situation.
― Jay Vee (Manon_70), Thursday, 18 November 2004 21:32 (nineteen years ago) link
― Naive Teen Idol (Naive Teen Idol), Thursday, 18 November 2004 23:05 (nineteen years ago) link
― Hurting (Hurting), Wednesday, 29 December 2004 04:30 (nineteen years ago) link
― Joe (Joe), Wednesday, 29 December 2004 21:37 (nineteen years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 29 December 2004 21:40 (nineteen years ago) link
― chaki in charge (chaki), Wednesday, 29 December 2004 21:47 (nineteen years ago) link
perhaps had prog not been so thoroughly devalued, brexit never would have happened
― reggie (qualmsley), Saturday, 19 October 2019 16:18 (four years ago) link
either way rick is to blame
― mark s, Saturday, 19 October 2019 16:28 (four years ago) link
He was asked to appear in Mighty Boosh but turned it down, don't know why.
― Robert Adam Gilmour, Saturday, 19 October 2019 16:53 (four years ago) link
He was at an awards ceremony for cats recently. Mostly talks about his diet and animal cruelty on twitter.
Love this so muchhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SdDpuT5stnk
― Robert Adam Gilmour, Saturday, 19 October 2019 17:07 (four years ago) link
grumpy old men did brexit >:((= true with and without caps and quote marks)
― Naive Teen Idol, Monday, 28 October 2019 04:22 (four years ago) link
plus there's GasTank, which was this wretched rock prog from the early days of ch4. Wakeman and some other keyboard player were the presenters. It was terrible stuff. All long blues jams, yurgh.
― Pashmina (Pashmina), Tuesday, November 16, 2004 1:40 PM (fourteen years ago)
This is of course all on Youtube now, it's really bad (warning: 50 mins video):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GRvDoFGfWoE
― Cornelius Fondue (Matt #2), Monday, 28 October 2019 06:43 (four years ago) link
I've never heard of this programme! I wonder if it was Not For Viewers In Scotland.
― Michael Oliver of Penge Wins £5 (Tom D.), Monday, 28 October 2019 09:02 (four years ago) link
I remember watching it at the time but that was down in t'smoke, think yourself lucky you were spared the sight of an increasingly sloshed Tony Ashton banging out pub piano while Alvin Lee or someone of that ilk farted out a generic blues-rock solo. In fact Rick seemed the odd man out, what with his rococo synth fanfares and wizardly cape.
― Cornelius Fondue (Matt #2), Monday, 28 October 2019 09:14 (four years ago) link
Living in Ayrshire a the time, I remember it took absolutely ages for C4 to get to us.
― Maresn3st, Monday, 28 October 2019 10:03 (four years ago) link
Hope Big World Cafe reached you.
― Cornelius Fondue (Matt #2), Monday, 28 October 2019 10:38 (four years ago) link
'Anne Of Cleeves' on 'Six Wives ... ' is an absolute massive tune.
― mark e, Tuesday, 29 October 2019 21:56 (four years ago) link
* Cleves *
to be fair this whole album is absolutely everything i love re PROG.i rarely enjoy vocals in prog, so this album hits the spot more than most when the need for excess arises.
― mark e, Tuesday, 29 October 2019 21:58 (four years ago) link
https://www.vanityfair.com/style/2020/06/the-stranger-than-fiction-secret-history-of-prog-rock-icon-rick-wakeman
― reggie (qualmsley), Tuesday, 30 June 2020 13:20 (three years ago) link
Journey To The Centre Of The Earth is pretty great, especially the "save me!" and "praise god!" bits. Quite a departure from Six Wives.
― Robert Adam Gilmour, Saturday, 27 March 2021 23:18 (three years ago) link
ooh yes.and to think its a live album.the logistics/planning before the recording.
― mark e, Saturday, 27 March 2021 23:34 (three years ago) link
Some of the songlike parts are quite sweet too. "Forests from far gone time, no living man has seen, A private pre-historic world, for you and I a dream".
― Robert Adam Gilmour, Sunday, 28 March 2021 01:33 (three years ago) link
I heard this a couple of times more than 30 years ago, almost all I remember is "an embryo at birth". He's fine in Yes, but Wakeman is probably the one "big name" of 70s prog whose solo work does nothing for me.
― Halfway there but for you, Sunday, 28 March 2021 02:15 (three years ago) link
So far I love his first two albums, I've got the next three at least.
― Robert Adam Gilmour, Sunday, 28 March 2021 09:42 (three years ago) link
I'd bail before the new age period if I were you
― brutalism is a piss-stained multistory car park in stockport (Matt #2), Sunday, 28 March 2021 10:20 (three years ago) link
When asked about his personal favorites, he said the first 3 and A Suite Of Gods. So I feel I should at least try the latter.
― Robert Adam Gilmour, Sunday, 28 March 2021 12:06 (three years ago) link