A thread for the Siouxsie reissues

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All kidding aside, I'm excited to see that the catalog is being given the same treatment that the Cure and Echo & The Bunnymen have received. Now we just need some decent Smiths remasters . . .

John Hunter, Saturday, 20 August 2005 15:50 (eighteen years ago) link

Since you asked Fastnbulbous, here is ILM's thread regarding the Cure remasteres. It's ridiculously long but if you scroll down to when the last three were released (April or so) than you can see where people starting talking about the sound quality difference between the originals and the newer remastered ones.

A thread for the Cure reissues

BeeOK (boo radley), Saturday, 20 August 2005 19:48 (eighteen years ago) link

I'll buy all the Siouxsie reissues, too! The only Siouxsie I have right now, sadly, is Join Hands and Twice Upon a Time. I just REALLY want A Kiss in the Dreamhouse and Nocturne.

Ian Riese-Moraine: a casualty of social estrangement. (Eastern Mantra), Saturday, 20 August 2005 20:06 (eighteen years ago) link

Shame about the lack of rarities. I'd been curious to hear some of the stuff of the 'Kaleidoscope' era. Did they play those songs live?

Baaderonixx on a long black leash (Fabfunk), Saturday, 20 August 2005 20:53 (eighteen years ago) link

They played Red Light all the time. Christine and Happy House too.

bkjj40a (bkjj40a), Saturday, 20 August 2005 22:58 (eighteen years ago) link

x-post Caiman.com has been fine, the couple of times I've ordered from them (via Amazon).

Josh in Chicago (Josh in Chicago), Sunday, 21 August 2005 01:30 (eighteen years ago) link

So, I guess the "roxy" gig remains unreleased?

mark grout (mark grout), Monday, 22 August 2005 07:32 (eighteen years ago) link

"The Scream appears first on October 4"

Hurrah!

"# Make Up To Break Up (Riverside Session)
# Love In A Void (Peel Session)
# Mirage (Peel Session)
# Metal Postcard (Peel Session)
# Suburban Relapse (Peel Session)
# Hong Kong Garden (Peel Session)
# Overground (Peel Session)
# Carcass (Peel Session)
# Helter Skelter (Peel Session)
# Metal Postcard (Pathway Session)
# Suburban Relapse’ (Pathway Session)
# Staircase (Mystery) (Pathway Session)
# Mirage (Pathway Session)
# Nicotine Stain (Pathway Session)
# Hong Kong Garden (7” Single Version)
# Staircase (Mystery) (7” Single Version)

So once again (as with The Cure reissues) you're expected to buy the Downside Up box if you want "Voices" or "20th Century Boy"; and most importantly where's "Captain Scarlet"?!?

"Surely, the next one will have the "Live at the punk festival" version of "The Lords Prayer" etc... ?"

Logically (chronologically) I'd have thought it really should be on this one - although it really is pretty bloody dreadful and; unless there are substantially better quality recordings of it about than any IIII've ever heard; I can't imagine it ever being legitimately released.

Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Monday, 22 August 2005 07:57 (eighteen years ago) link

True, true, but seeing as how album one is rounding up the demos and peel sessions, and how album two took on the Lords Prayer stuff, it seemed to be the place to put it.

Oh yeah, "Captain Scarlet!"

mark grout (mark grout), Monday, 22 August 2005 08:00 (eighteen years ago) link

what about "bad shape" only have that on a couple of real dodgy bootlegs and a seg of them performing it on that Punk Rock Movie video. it is quite hilarious and rough...

ehbenoit, Monday, 22 August 2005 11:42 (eighteen years ago) link

Also "Scraphead and "Psychic".

There are studio demos available for all of these!

Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Monday, 22 August 2005 12:01 (eighteen years ago) link

heyyyyyy, i don't have those. i'm missing something!!

ehbenoit, Monday, 22 August 2005 13:16 (eighteen years ago) link

As a result, you shall not be suffered to live. You fake fan. (I don't have those either.)

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 22 August 2005 13:18 (eighteen years ago) link

I am actually kind of happy to be coming into Siouxsie fandom after the fact because I really don't know what I'm missing with these reissues, so the fact that they exist at all makes me feel all funny inside.

The Ghost of Black Elegance (Dan Perry), Monday, 22 August 2005 13:53 (eighteen years ago) link

I might buy 'The Scream' reissue just to be able to listen to "Overground" at an even more satisfying volume.

Baaderonixx on a long black leash (Fabfunk), Monday, 22 August 2005 13:59 (eighteen years ago) link

Don't get too excited - unfortunately The Banshees kind of peaked with the first album (if truth be told their second one in particular is a bit of a dog!) and it's certainly the only one that really warrants this sort of double-disc reissue treatment.

(x-post)

Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Monday, 22 August 2005 14:03 (eighteen years ago) link

Er, their first album isn't Tinderbox!

The Ghost of Black Elegance (Dan Perry), Monday, 22 August 2005 14:03 (eighteen years ago) link

No, it's The Scream, which is considerably better.

Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Monday, 22 August 2005 14:06 (eighteen years ago) link

Tinderbox and The Scream are tied for no. 1 in my household.

Baaderonixx on a long black leash (Fabfunk), Monday, 22 August 2005 14:14 (eighteen years ago) link

I think I'd put Kaleidoscope above Tinderbox ('though still below The Scream).

Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Monday, 22 August 2005 14:19 (eighteen years ago) link

you think their peak is the scream?? i always felt that kaleidoscope was the best. i love most of their records, but i think that is the priceless one... and i do kind of like the over-indulgence of join hands as well.

ehbenoit, Monday, 22 August 2005 14:25 (eighteen years ago) link

It seems they're finally releasing Nocturne on DVD soon too.

Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Monday, 22 August 2005 14:25 (eighteen years ago) link

Tinderbox is a perfect album. The Scream is not.

The Ghost of Black Elegance (Dan Perry), Monday, 22 August 2005 14:25 (eighteen years ago) link

"you think their peak is the scream??"

Yup. Completely blew me away the first time I heard it; none of the others have ever really come close.

"Tinderbox is a perfect album. The Scream is not."

Tinderbox was a predictable album. The Scream was not.

Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Monday, 22 August 2005 14:28 (eighteen years ago) link

Predictable how?

The Ghost of Black Elegance (Dan Perry), Monday, 22 August 2005 14:28 (eighteen years ago) link

Predictable in that it sounded (in the nicest possible way) just like you'd expect a Banshees album to sound!

Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Monday, 22 August 2005 14:32 (eighteen years ago) link

The only Banshees album I'd heard before Tinderbox was Peepshow, which kind of does its own thing in a fairly different manner. Even Hyaena and Juju sound markedly different to me thanks to production style, plus the songs can't be fucked with (particularly that second side! OMG). And none of them sound anything like Superstition or The Scream or the bits I've heard of Join Hands and Kaleidescope.

It's kind of akin to saying, "Oh, that just sounds like a typical Cure album" when none of them really sound alike (ESPECIALLY pre-1989).

The Ghost of Black Elegance (Dan Perry), Monday, 22 August 2005 14:37 (eighteen years ago) link

(IOW, STEP OFF GRANDPA YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND *slams bedroom door*)

The Ghost of Black Elegance (Dan Perry), Monday, 22 August 2005 14:38 (eighteen years ago) link

And thus the goth/punk wars began.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 22 August 2005 14:39 (eighteen years ago) link

"It's kind of akin to saying, "Oh, that just sounds like a typical Cure album" when none of them really sound alike (ESPECIALLY pre-1989)."

Actually I've always thought that Seventeen Seconds and Faith very definitely belong together stylistically. ;~P

Be that as it may 'though, I'm not particularly saying that any particular album sounds specifically like any preceding one, just that (in the both cases) pretty much everything that either band released from, say, 1984 onwards was immediately recognisable as being by that band, and that from that point onwards the contents of each band's musical pallette was always far more familiar than it was unfamiliar.

Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Monday, 22 August 2005 14:53 (eighteen years ago) link

"Tinderbox was a predictable album. The Scream was not."

i do agree with you a bit on this stewart, but it kind of made it great in that way that it was sort of like the ultimate definition of the banshees at that point. it was a great record and the tour was fantastic, but ultimately as you inferred it was a bit expected for long standing fans. i have to say though, some of the songs were a bit sweeter than usual such as in the case of "sweetest chill" one of my favorite songs, "lands end" another schorcher and "party's fall", but the banshees vibe was still very much there. unlike the following two records which broke the mold, especially peepshow.

however, I still stand by kaleidoscope as their best record... i just can't sway on that. :)

"shoulders form rows to make waves again..."

ehbenoit, Monday, 22 August 2005 16:16 (eighteen years ago) link

Kaleidoscope is probably my second favourite.

How I'd feel about their albums if I'd heard them in a different order other than chronologically as they were released (when they released), I have no idea - but (having only seen them once and heard the first couple of Peel sessions and Hong Kong Garden beforehand) The Scream astounded me in a way very few albums by anyone have done before or since.

Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Monday, 22 August 2005 18:32 (eighteen years ago) link

The order I heard their albums (of the ones I've heard):

Peepshow
Tinderbox
Superstition
Hyaena
(bits of Kaleidescope, A Kiss In The Dreamhouse, Join Hands)
Nocturne
The Scream
Juju

The Ghost of Black Elegance (Dan Perry), Monday, 22 August 2005 20:10 (eighteen years ago) link

Tinderbox hooked me, so I guess the sound was there, as you say. But the lyrical imagery along with just plain interesting music made all those songs listed by ehbenoit shine.

Immediately got the entire back catalogue, then Looking Glass, Peepshow, Superstition as they were released. With the exceptions of Join Hands and The Rapture I say they are all chock full of goodies. Yes, Kaliedoscope is awesome.

Initially I was dissapointed that Through The Looking Glass had no originals, but can you imagine their canon without it now? And I trust it will continue to age more gracefully than any other work of theirs.

Fortier (bkjj40a), Monday, 22 August 2005 22:25 (eighteen years ago) link

You haven't heard the whole of Join Hands, Dan? OMG are you in a for a treat. Probably one of the more inconsistent SATB albums, but OMGWTF "Icon"...

Tinderbox was the first LP I got. I remember distinctly that my first impression upon hearing it was that it reminded me of ... Sinead o' Connor...
Tinderbox, Scream, Juju and possibly Rapture are the only SATB albums that are consistently great

Baaderonixx on a long black leash (Fabfunk), Tuesday, 23 August 2005 06:46 (eighteen years ago) link

"Icon" completely rocks balls! (I forgot to mention The Seven Year Itch, which I heard after Nocturne; there was a very famous thread where I said it was a shame that Siouxsie was singing like ass and people kind of flipped out like I'd stormtroopered their poodles, even though she was bellowing like a dying caribou on "Land's End".)

The Ghost of Black Elegance (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 23 August 2005 12:47 (eighteen years ago) link

"It seems they're finally releasing Nocturne on DVD soon too."

Having investigated further I'm now seeing different and conflicting information and release dates everywhere! Does anyone here actually know for certain what's happening about this?

Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Tuesday, 23 August 2005 12:54 (eighteen years ago) link

It was supposed to come out on DVD a few months back but Severin posted saying they halted this because it was being done without band approval, and that they wanted to arrange for more extras and goodies and etc. Mind you, I'd be interested to see *what* exactly they do with it, since of course it features one R. Smith prominently and Mr. Severin's feelings towards him are different from those of Ms. Sioux.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 23 August 2005 13:06 (eighteen years ago) link

Which one of them has "Fat Bob" fallen out with at the moment? He seems to have had a fairly volatile relationship with both of them over the years....

Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Tuesday, 23 August 2005 13:20 (eighteen years ago) link

Why, Siouxsie of course. Severin and Smith are currently working together happily enough on the Glove reissue.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 23 August 2005 13:26 (eighteen years ago) link

Well Siouxsie hates them both, right?

This means that as each album is reissued without a nice extra disc, they won't look as 'important' as the Cure. Right?

mark grout (mark grout), Tuesday, 23 August 2005 13:31 (eighteen years ago) link

Look. Today I found PR, photos, and clips for the Dreamshow DVD;

http://video-c.co.uk/artistfeatures/siouxsiesioux/about.html

Fortier (bkjj40a), Tuesday, 23 August 2005 13:41 (eighteen years ago) link

does she hate them or have a hard time working with them. i can not imagine that robert is a barrel of laughs, nor severin to be quite honest... and i am not saying that she is probably an angel herself, but... realistically speaking. i am sure none of them make it easy on each other.

ehbenoit, Tuesday, 23 August 2005 13:42 (eighteen years ago) link

"Severin and Smith are currently working together happily enough on the Glove reissue."

"This means that as each album is reissued without a nice extra disc, [Siouxsie And The Banshees] won't look as 'important' as the Cure. Right?"

I wonder if there'll be a bonus disc with the reissue of Blue Sunshine?

Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Tuesday, 23 August 2005 13:46 (eighteen years ago) link

methinks that the rofles are plentier with Bob and Steve...

TS: Night out with Bob and Severin vs. Suzie and Budgie?

Baaderonixx on a long black leash (Fabfunk), Tuesday, 23 August 2005 13:48 (eighteen years ago) link

xpost yes as it's a Cure tie-in.

Didn't they appear on the Oxford Road Show, back in...

mark grout (mark grout), Tuesday, 23 August 2005 13:52 (eighteen years ago) link

"i can not imagine that robert is a barrel of laughs, nor severin to be quite honest..."

When they're together 'though, they're like Laurel and Hardy, only with a substantially larger drug habit.

Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Tuesday, 23 August 2005 13:52 (eighteen years ago) link

http://www.theglove.de/the_glove/images/rob_steve_6.jpg

"This is another fine mess you've gotten me into Severin"

Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Tuesday, 23 August 2005 13:58 (eighteen years ago) link

Severin's last message on the Glove reissue indicated there would indeed be a bonus disc.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 23 August 2005 14:07 (eighteen years ago) link

Ooooh. Mrs. Clarke isn't going to be too happy about that then, is she?

Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Tuesday, 23 August 2005 14:30 (eighteen years ago) link

Something about enduring MN-esque winter temperatures for the past 6 weeks for the first time in over 20 years combined with more concentrated snow than I've ever seen in my life has pushed me into the exact right headspace to appreciate every nook and cranny of this album, which has not kept me from looping "Icon" and "Playground Twist" for hours at a time.

DJP, Tuesday, 24 February 2015 19:57 (nine years ago) link

that's a great album. it was unfairly maligned for a long time.

akm, Wednesday, 25 February 2015 04:52 (nine years ago) link

JH always seemed a bit short despite the superfluois padding (Lord's Prayer - yawn) but the highs (ICON! Premature Burial!) definitely kicked my ass as a wee goth

licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Wednesday, 25 February 2015 09:49 (nine years ago) link

Join Hands was always the one that seemed the most remarkable to me. Like, Kaleidoscope has better jams, but Join Hands is just this dark vision

The Complainte of Ray Tabano, Wednesday, 25 February 2015 11:12 (nine years ago) link

Yeah it shows the band that they could have been but I guess the departure of the rhytm section acted as a reset button for them

licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Wednesday, 25 February 2015 11:16 (nine years ago) link

Not quite rhythm! (Guitarist/drummer.)

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 25 February 2015 13:21 (nine years ago) link

nine months pass...

The Join Hands remaster is great.

And jeez, I forgot how punishing of an album it is. Squally squally distortion everywhere.

Austin, Saturday, 12 December 2015 03:26 (eight years ago) link

the vinyl remaster with the original artwork?

akm, Tuesday, 15 December 2015 20:58 (eight years ago) link

one month passes...

so, the new boxset.

having not heard the previous set of remasters with extra tracks, i have to say this new cheap-n-cheerful boxset of the first 6 albums (coverart by one of our own !), sounds fantastic.

or, am i not an enough of a fanboy to notice the subtle f*ck ups ?

mark e, Thursday, 4 February 2016 20:48 (eight years ago) link

wait who did the cover art don't make me buy this thing I have literally everything on it

its subtle brume (DJP), Thursday, 4 February 2016 20:57 (eight years ago) link

in multiple formats

its subtle brume (DJP), Thursday, 4 February 2016 20:57 (eight years ago) link

if they did an all-encompassing box covering the first two albums and attendant singles, and all previous....

"Oh, Ted, that would be amazin, woah yeah! Just that Ted..."

Mark G, Thursday, 4 February 2016 21:07 (eight years ago) link

ahh : checked the post, not 'DID', but 'DIG'.
sorry to have raised excitement levels.
still, no left/right dropouts as mentioned on various s&b threads/discussion groups.
tis a very slimline boxset, no credits, nothing.
but, exactly what i wanted.
though having heard the 14 minute 'lords prayer' track, i aint so sure now !

mark e, Thursday, 4 February 2016 21:20 (eight years ago) link

haha

its subtle brume (DJP), Thursday, 4 February 2016 21:23 (eight years ago) link

This box arrived at my house on Sunday. Ten minutes after I left for a week :(

Ad h (onimo), Friday, 5 February 2016 17:35 (eight years ago) link

this is exactly the kind of box set I want to replace my grocery bags full of cassettes.

erry red flag (f. hazel), Friday, 5 February 2016 19:09 (eight years ago) link

thanks to thread bump for alerting me to this:

http://www.discogs.com/Siouxsie-And-The-Banshees-At-The-BBC/release/1800195

and wow, Downside Up sure needs a repress!

the 'major tom guy' (sleeve), Friday, 5 February 2016 19:11 (eight years ago) link

wow this box is cheap. i will probably buy it; I just sold almost all my cds but still.

akm, Friday, 5 February 2016 20:20 (eight years ago) link

xp yeah a Downside Up reissue for a reasonable price would be awesome. But please god not in a clamshell box.

we salute you, our half-inflated dark lord (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Saturday, 6 February 2016 03:12 (eight years ago) link


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