the gold exp is a totally important album in my life.
― petesmith (plsmith), Friday, 9 September 2005 14:07 (eighteen years ago) link
― okokok, Friday, 9 September 2005 14:20 (eighteen years ago) link
― okokok, Friday, 9 September 2005 14:28 (eighteen years ago) link
this is a good argument until one actually thinks about it, at which point it falls apart like well-cooked flesh. james brown upended the american notion of popular song and made rhythm more important than melody! who did anything more radical than that?
― The Obligatory Sourpuss (Begs2Differ), Friday, 9 September 2005 14:35 (eighteen years ago) link
― kokoko, Friday, 9 September 2005 14:38 (eighteen years ago) link
― The Obligatory Sourpuss (Begs2Differ), Friday, 9 September 2005 14:40 (eighteen years ago) link
― The Obligatory Sourpuss (Begs2Differ), Friday, 9 September 2005 14:41 (eighteen years ago) link
sly and george built on the JB paradigm but they took it somewhere else entirely, where JB himself did NOT want to go. JB wasnt into sounding spacey, drugged out, or freaky on record, much less looking that way, he was of the previous generation.
― okokok, Friday, 9 September 2005 14:43 (eighteen years ago) link
― petesmith (plsmith), Friday, 9 September 2005 14:45 (eighteen years ago) link
― petesmith (plsmith), Friday, 9 September 2005 14:46 (eighteen years ago) link
― ookokok, Friday, 9 September 2005 14:47 (eighteen years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 9 September 2005 14:48 (eighteen years ago) link
― okok, Friday, 9 September 2005 14:49 (eighteen years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 9 September 2005 14:50 (eighteen years ago) link
― petesmith (plsmith), Friday, 9 September 2005 14:51 (eighteen years ago) link
If you could edit out Tony M that would be his best post 80s album, a lot of bangers on there.. Morning Papers, God Created Woman, 7, Love to the 9s (minus woeful rap interlude)
― Jay Smooth (jsmooth995), Friday, 9 September 2005 15:13 (eighteen years ago) link
Actually, I think I'll add to "Pussy Control" and "Endorphinmachine" to my list of 90's Prince songs I prefer to "Sexy MF."
― Alfred Soto (Alfred Soto), Friday, 9 September 2005 15:18 (eighteen years ago) link
― petesmith (plsmith), Friday, 9 September 2005 15:18 (eighteen years ago) link
The best of all of Prince's JB rips, of course, is "Housequake."
― Austin Still (Austin, Still), Friday, 9 September 2005 15:20 (eighteen years ago) link
― The Obligatory Sourpuss (Begs2Differ), Friday, 9 September 2005 15:24 (eighteen years ago) link
― petesmith (plsmith), Friday, 9 September 2005 15:30 (eighteen years ago) link
― petesmith (plsmith), Friday, 9 September 2005 15:31 (eighteen years ago) link
― okokok, Friday, 9 September 2005 15:32 (eighteen years ago) link
― deaf leopard (haitch), Friday, 9 September 2005 15:38 (eighteen years ago) link
― Alfred Soto (Alfred Soto), Friday, 9 September 2005 15:40 (eighteen years ago) link
― petesmith (plsmith), Friday, 9 September 2005 16:29 (eighteen years ago) link
― tricky (disco stu), Friday, 9 September 2005 16:38 (eighteen years ago) link
― petesmith (plsmith), Friday, 9 September 2005 16:41 (eighteen years ago) link
"7" definitely follows the "this should by all rights be an unholy mess of garbled shite but somehow IT IS FUCKING AWESOME" rule that runs rampant throughout the symbol album. The Gold Experience is a much better effort all around and I really don't trust people who dislike "P Control" as that's usually a sign that you eat babies.
― The Ghost of Black Elegance (Dan Perry), Friday, 9 September 2005 16:45 (eighteen years ago) link
and also, when will there be deluxe remastered lavishly packaged double (or hell triple!!) cd reissues of the "worthwhile" or "listenable" prince?
― tricky (disco stu), Friday, 9 September 2005 16:48 (eighteen years ago) link
― okok, Friday, 9 September 2005 17:01 (eighteen years ago) link
prince didnt really start homaging JB til the purple rain tour in baby im a star (all that 'hit me 345 times' stuff)
this is 345 kinds of poppycock
― Matos-Webster Dictionary (M Matos), Friday, 9 September 2005 17:17 (eighteen years ago) link
okok - "red red wine" pwns "blue light!" prince is my favorite musician of all time, but theres no way i can deny that fact. also, "p control" is classicclassicclassic, end of argument.
― petesmith (plsmith), Friday, 9 September 2005 17:19 (eighteen years ago) link
― okoko, Friday, 9 September 2005 17:21 (eighteen years ago) link
― The Ghost of Black Elegance (Dan Perry), Friday, 9 September 2005 17:24 (eighteen years ago) link
ill admit that my love for "3 chains o' gold" is roughly analogous to my love of "trapped in the closet", ie a leftfield-whatthefuck-retarded-genius-but-not-really-ironic-kind-of-love, but thats real love!
― petesmith (plsmith), Friday, 9 September 2005 17:27 (eighteen years ago) link
i love the first part of 3 chains, that melody is really lovely
― okoko, Friday, 9 September 2005 17:29 (eighteen years ago) link
Altho when i finally saw the footage, I didn't think Prince looked all that bad.. it's been hyped up as his most embarrassing moment..
― Jay Smooth (jsmooth995), Friday, 9 September 2005 18:00 (eighteen years ago) link
― okok, Friday, 9 September 2005 18:03 (eighteen years ago) link
― Jay Smooth (jsmooth995), Friday, 9 September 2005 18:13 (eighteen years ago) link
― okok, Friday, 9 September 2005 18:16 (eighteen years ago) link
― Matos-Webster Dictionary (M Matos), Friday, 9 September 2005 19:37 (eighteen years ago) link
― Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 9 September 2005 22:11 (eighteen years ago) link
― Jedmond (Jedmond), Friday, 9 September 2005 22:21 (eighteen years ago) link
― Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 9 September 2005 22:22 (eighteen years ago) link
― Jedmond (Jedmond), Friday, 9 September 2005 23:18 (eighteen years ago) link
I can put it up in yousendit or something, if it's not around in Soulseek et al
― Jay Smooth (jsmooth995), Friday, 9 September 2005 23:50 (eighteen years ago) link
― Jedmond (Jedmond), Saturday, 10 September 2005 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link
― kit brash (kit brash), Saturday, 10 September 2005 00:54 (eighteen years ago) link
xpost - HAHA, i forgot the piggyback entrance!
― okok, Saturday, 10 September 2005 08:17 (eighteen years ago) link
Also, you can add my voice to praises for Michael Bland, NPG's drummer. Those two albums have the funkiest drums of any Prince albums, if we're talking about traditional drumming skills. I still prefer the 80s drum machines, though. (And Sheila E. is obviously good too, but in a more idiosyncratic way than Bland.)
― Tuomas, Tuesday, 3 May 2016 13:17 (eight years ago) link
And I love the fact that the also-supremely-funky organ on this tune is plaid by a guy who, at the time, looked like this:
http://members.toast.net/talien/gallery/reign/tommyb.gif
― Tuomas, Tuesday, 3 May 2016 13:21 (eight years ago) link
Tony Barbarella in the house.
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 3 May 2016 13:25 (eight years ago) link
Who's that
― Daithi Bowsie (darraghmac), Tuesday, 3 May 2016 13:26 (eight years ago) link
That's the Trent Reznor "before" yearbook picture.
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 3 May 2016 13:36 (eight years ago) link
I never set eyes on Prince but the closest I came was seeing Michael Bland working the fuck out of a drum kit in a music store in Minneapolis before he started working with Prince.
― scarcity festival (Jon not Jon), Tuesday, 3 May 2016 14:34 (eight years ago) link
bland's work on "love 2 the 9's" is exquisite
― HYPERLINK TO RAP GENIUS (BradNelson), Tuesday, 3 May 2016 14:48 (eight years ago) link
Food for thought: both Bland and Bowie's longstanding drummer Sterling Campbell served time in Soul Asylum.
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 3 May 2016 14:54 (eight years ago) link
The times I saw Michael Bland play for Soul Asylum, they were so great - throw Tommy up there on bass and it was like a whole new band.
― BlackIronPrison, Tuesday, 3 May 2016 14:56 (eight years ago) link
Michael Bland apparently a big XTC fan, too — he lobbied to play on "Apple Venus."
― goodoldneon, Tuesday, 3 May 2016 17:27 (eight years ago) link
Really? I didn't know that!
― Turrican, Tuesday, 3 May 2016 17:42 (eight years ago) link
Uh I was asking tuomas actually
― Daithi Bowsie (darraghmac), Tuesday, 3 May 2016 17:52 (eight years ago) link
Bland joining Prince is possibly the exact moment his output started to suffer imo. surprised at the love here.
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 3 May 2016 17:56 (eight years ago) link
Not blands fault in any way
― scarcity festival (Jon not Jon), Tuesday, 3 May 2016 17:56 (eight years ago) link
yeah, probably not to any significant degree. but as noted on some other Prince thread, 1990 feels like the first time Prince is backed up by, like, a normal, modern R&B band and some of his production idiosyncrasies/techniques start to suffer, and Bland's heavy-footedness is part of that sort of conventional sound creeping in.
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 3 May 2016 17:58 (eight years ago) link
Bland is an excellent drummer and the best NPG member. Shakey's right about Prince's gradual decline, but Bland anchored the best of it.
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 3 May 2016 18:02 (eight years ago) link
best NPG member.
is faint praise
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 3 May 2016 18:08 (eight years ago) link
he'd have been a good drummer in any band.
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 3 May 2016 18:11 (eight years ago) link
I find the whole NPG era (or what I think of as the NPG era...those first few records in the 90s) to be kind of fascinating in that while they def. lose some (even a lot) of the edge that made Prince unique, they so clearly are what he imagined would appeal to a black audience at the time – featuring Bland and Seacer's heavily syncopated grooves, Gaines' Aretha-esque wailing vocals, Barbarella's super funky organ parts, and, of course, Tony M rapping (and the dancers). It was like he was trying to put together his own Muscle Shoals All Stars in some 90s context. As a whole, it doesn't really work but in the instances when it does—mostly singles like "Get Off," "D&P," "7," this song—the results tended to be as weird and outrageous as anything in the guy's catalogue.
On another note, I played this song for my 8 year old the other day. I'm probably a horrible parent for doing it but I really wanted her to understand why her mom and I loved this Prince guy so much (it also provided a nice opportunity to let her know that some people use words to get a rise out of folks). Interestingly, her semi-embarrassed giggle was pretty much identical to the reaction everyone I knew had when it came out during college. I'm probably going to Hell.
― Naive Teen Idol, Wednesday, 4 May 2016 04:09 (eight years ago) link