Anyway, while Nicki Minaj doesn't need the visibility, I'm sure MIA gets more out of Madonna than vice versa.
― clemenza, Sunday, 5 February 2012 17:33 (twelve years ago) link
oh man, i totally disagree with thatunless you mean how much she got paid
― "bruh" is the black bro (forksclovetofu), Sunday, 5 February 2012 17:47 (twelve years ago) link
I meant something more like who's a bigger help to whom in terms of widening her current audience. Just guessing. I was probably thinking of my grade 6 class: 100% of them know who Nicki Minaj is, two-thirds know Madonna, and I'd be surprised if even half have heard of MIA. But that's a pretty narrow perspective, so you're probably right.
― clemenza, Sunday, 5 February 2012 17:56 (twelve years ago) link
I see no way in which Madonna gets more out of an MIA guest appearance than MIA gets out of guesting on a Madonna single
― I spend a lot of time thinking about apricots (DJP), Sunday, 5 February 2012 18:18 (twelve years ago) link
(IOW forks=crazypants)
― I spend a lot of time thinking about apricots (DJP), Sunday, 5 February 2012 18:19 (twelve years ago) link
dan are you seriously suggesting that the woman who won an oscar for best song in a movie and who rapped with kanye and jay at the grammys while she was pregnant is desperately in need for exposure?
Madonna hasn't had youth/critical culture impact since like the mid-nineties. Nicki and MIA have FOUR BARS apiece on this track. They are there as a sap to those two audiences; no one is gonna listen to that madge track and say, hey I should check this MIA chick out!
― "bruh" is the black bro (forksclovetofu), Sunday, 5 February 2012 18:26 (twelve years ago) link
Mid-90s? Hung up came out in 2005
― just sayin, Sunday, 5 February 2012 18:30 (twelve years ago) link
lol, i had to google it.yeah i guess you're right there but it looks like a burp to me
― "bruh" is the black bro (forksclovetofu), Sunday, 5 February 2012 18:32 (twelve years ago) link
U r crazy then
― just sayin, Sunday, 5 February 2012 18:33 (twelve years ago) link
okay.
― "bruh" is the black bro (forksclovetofu), Sunday, 5 February 2012 18:33 (twelve years ago) link
i don't rate much madonna past ray of light really. i'd like to?
― "bruh" is the black bro (forksclovetofu), Sunday, 5 February 2012 18:34 (twelve years ago) link
Hung up is just super classic to me
― just sayin, Sunday, 5 February 2012 18:36 (twelve years ago) link
x2
― ‘Neuroscience’ and ‘near death’ pepper (Eazy), Sunday, 5 February 2012 18:37 (twelve years ago) link
I think we can assume that both MIA and Madonna were happy to help each other, and found this collaboration to be mutually beneficial.
― da croupier, Sunday, 5 February 2012 18:40 (twelve years ago) link
apparently the remix of this track will feature LMFAO, let's debate who's winning there
― da croupier, Sunday, 5 February 2012 18:42 (twelve years ago) link
i hope we can all agree it's not the listening public
― "bruh" is the black bro (forksclovetofu), Sunday, 5 February 2012 18:43 (twelve years ago) link
dan are you seriously suggesting that the woman who won an oscar for best song in a movie and who rapped with kanye and jay at the grammys while she was pregnant is desperately in need for exposure?Madonna hasn't had youth/critical culture impact since like the mid-nineties. Nicki and MIA have FOUR BARS apiece on this track. They are there as a sap to those two audiences; no one is gonna listen to that madge track and say, hey I should check this MIA chick out!
You are massively underselling/misunderstanding Madonna's position in pop music. The woman is a still-working pop legend; the appearance of both Nicki and MIA on this are pandering moves to current pop and indie dance audiences but the reason they both said yes* is because IT'S FUCKING MADONNA.
* though in fairness, Nicki would have said yes if it was Diamanda Galas; she seems to be addicted to guest spots
― I spend a lot of time thinking about apricots (DJP), Sunday, 5 February 2012 18:53 (twelve years ago) link
it's also noteworthy these ladies did not just sign up to rap for twenty seconds but walk behind madonna in cheerleader outfits shouting "L-U-V! MADONNA!"
― da croupier, Sunday, 5 February 2012 18:58 (twelve years ago) link
x3
― Little GTFO (contenderizer), Sunday, 5 February 2012 19:05 (twelve years ago) link
Gimme All Your Luv has some similarities with Beautiful Stranger and Amazing from the Music album. If the album is kind of like that then I would get more excited it for it.
I do wonder why she is going back to her Bridget Bardot/Truth or Dare pale look though.
― Tired of these edcuated basic bitches. (lilsoulbrother), Sunday, 5 February 2012 19:19 (twelve years ago) link
the reason they both said yes* is because IT'S FUCKING MADONNA.
― "bruh" is the black bro (forksclovetofu), Sunday, 5 February 2012 19:27 (twelve years ago) link
lilbro: i agree with you except those were the parts of Music I found most unlistenable
― "bruh" is the black bro (forksclovetofu), Sunday, 5 February 2012 19:28 (twelve years ago) link
Are you serious? Those were the highlights for me. His more lean production with the electric guitar is why I love that album. A great balance to what would've been a preening, pretentious synth album.
― Tired of these edcuated basic bitches. (lilsoulbrother), Sunday, 5 February 2012 19:32 (twelve years ago) link
i had to fire up music for the first time in like six years to check but yeah i LIKED the preening, pretentious synth elements!
― "bruh" is the black bro (forksclovetofu), Sunday, 5 February 2012 19:37 (twelve years ago) link
yeah they were great at the time when she was doing it when it initially released but they can get irksome if not in the right mood. Plus, I do miss listening to Madonna with a guitar/bass/piano/whatever rockist boring instrument every once in a while.
― Tired of these edcuated basic bitches. (lilsoulbrother), Sunday, 5 February 2012 19:40 (twelve years ago) link
Madonna hasn't had youth/critical culture impact since like the mid-nineties
I'd push that a little forward to include Music, but I basically agree. Which is not an aesthetic judgement on the the two or three albums that followed, and I love lots of music made by people who are on the other side of their moment or whatever you want to call it.
― clemenza, Sunday, 5 February 2012 19:52 (twelve years ago) link
The other side of their moment usually equals to young pop fans who can't fathom listening to someone past the age of 25.
― Tired of these edcuated basic bitches. (lilsoulbrother), Sunday, 5 February 2012 20:22 (twelve years ago) link
try listening to it? that's be a start
ehhh these people need a slap but it might not be worth the effort as they'll learn anyway
― first period don't give a fuck, second period gon get cut (lex pretend), Sunday, 5 February 2012 23:15 (twelve years ago) link
does anyone under the age of 40 who isn't a music critic or film critic or industry flack pay attention to these awards
― mh, Sunday, 5 February 2012 23:39 (twelve years ago) link
uh, lex I did? I liked Music fine but it felt flimsy; American Life was terrible and after two listens Hard Candy left zero impact. Hung Up was, what, '08? I only vaguely remember it; it was clearly not for me.
― "bruh" is the black bro (forksclovetofu), Sunday, 5 February 2012 23:40 (twelve years ago) link
mh: everyone who buys us or people or star or whatever the hell sure does. She was watermelon big at the grammys, it got a lot of press. the oscar thing with rahman was huge international news for like a week.
― "bruh" is the black bro (forksclovetofu), Sunday, 5 February 2012 23:41 (twelve years ago) link
iirc Music was one of the last commercial bootleg discs i bought from a guy on the street
― "bruh" is the black bro (forksclovetofu), Sunday, 5 February 2012 23:42 (twelve years ago) link
do people listen or buy music based on those, though? I dunno, I guess they might
― mh, Monday, 6 February 2012 00:15 (twelve years ago) link
Did she just slip on the bleachers?
― I Fucked Up (jer.fairall), Monday, 6 February 2012 01:05 (twelve years ago) link
MIA giving the finger! that was the highlight for me anyway.
― piscesx, Monday, 6 February 2012 01:19 (twelve years ago) link
Better than LMFAO and the guy on the tightrope I guess
― curmudgeon, Monday, 6 February 2012 02:13 (twelve years ago) link
feel like 25 year old me woulda had a conniption fit at cee-lo and madonna singing like a prayer at the superbowl. ten years later the thrill is gone.
― "bruh" is the black bro (forksclovetofu), Monday, 6 February 2012 02:17 (twelve years ago) link
WOLD PEACE lol
LMMFAO
― I spend a lot of time thinking about apricots (DJP), Saturday, 4 February 2012 05:14 (2 days ago)
prescient
― Θ ̨Θƪ (sic), Monday, 6 February 2012 02:18 (twelve years ago) link
supposedly the network tried to blur the finger a second late!
― piscesx, Monday, 6 February 2012 02:19 (twelve years ago) link
yep, it was clear
― "bruh" is the black bro (forksclovetofu), Monday, 6 February 2012 02:19 (twelve years ago) link
Potential mixtape title: Man on W.I.R.E.
― ‘Neuroscience’ and ‘near death’ pepper (Eazy), Monday, 6 February 2012 02:51 (twelve years ago) link
They should have blurred LMFAO instead
― I Fucked Up (jer.fairall), Monday, 6 February 2012 02:59 (twelve years ago) link
wow. she sucked.
― Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 6 February 2012 05:24 (twelve years ago) link
Blech
― Raymond Cummings, Monday, 6 February 2012 05:38 (twelve years ago) link
i was laughing my ass off at the cleopatra intro, it was so absurd. everything else sucked
― Assmaster (Hungry4Ass), Monday, 6 February 2012 05:46 (twelve years ago) link
Why do you think she sucked? I thought that was the second most entertaining halftime show of the past decade after Prince (which is fitting, really)
― I spend a lot of time thinking about apricots (DJP), Monday, 6 February 2012 05:55 (twelve years ago) link
D-I-E MADONNA
― Michael B Higgins (Michael B), Monday, 6 February 2012 06:04 (twelve years ago) link
nicki minaj and mia poor sods
actually half time show wa decent dan, hate madonna bending ppl who should know better to her will, but shur tis all about da moolah
― Michael B Higgins (Michael B), Monday, 6 February 2012 06:05 (twelve years ago) link