Loaded: best VU album, rite guys?

if I had to do it by which songs I listen to most 'vu' would prob win

admittedly Lou does not sound like Lou on Sunday Morning

are you guys even, like, fans of this band??

― flopson, Thursday, March 29, 2012 2:00 PM (15 minutes ago)

I think part of the reason they're so widely loved is because of their polarizing versatility, so it's not surprising that diff ppl like diff aspects of what they do. I mean we're not talking about creedence clearwater revival here.

Peel Slowly And See is also great (despite or including some ridiculous early demos/rehearsals)

My main reference point for crazy and destructive were 1966 Who bootlegs and Never Mind the Bollocks.

There's a quote somewhere from Cale or Reed...not long after the Velvets formed, Cale went to Wales and came back with some new singles, "Anyway Anyhow Anywhere" and the Small Faces' "Whatcha Gonna Do About It" among them. Reed said to Cale (or vice-versa) something to the effect of, "We gotta put a record out soon, or everyone's gonna think we ripped these bands off!"

xxp i think people who don't like [velvet underground song] are fronting & if they just jammed it in the right mood they'd come around

great post bendy - I think one's own VU sequence narrative is maybe super important to how one ranks the albums. I became a big fan of Lou Reed in a vacuum, I had no outside information on him other than the records I could find (I was 13) which were Transformer & Coney Island Baby & Rock and Roll Animal. Thought he was the greatest thing ever. Heard about the Velvet Underground and for what seemed like an eternity (was probably 1-2 months, lol teenagers) I was looking for somebody who owned the records so I could hear them. Finally got to a friend's house and heard the first one, liked it, but it was when a friend brought White Light back from France that I really felt floored. Third album took another year to hear (after the same friend went back to France with his family, he brought me a copy). At this point I was pretty excited to hear Loaded, I knew its hits and assumed that the album versions would be great. Instead they sounded - breezy, airy. That was not what I wanted from "Sweet Jane" - I liked the Rock and Roll Animal version. I know that's not everybody's style of "Sweet Jane" but I liked & like crunchy riffy 70s shit like Steve Hunter. I bought Steve Hunter solo albums. And I still prefer Lou & Some Guys Who Can Really Play to Lou And His Artist Friends Who're Also Musicians, that's just me.

I dont think you can really not like a band if you're like "Oh, track 8 on the 3rd album is crap". Sort of implies that you've listened to at least that album a bunch.

in the mid-late 60s, eclecticism became the theme, plus I once saw a Cale quote indicating he and maybe they felt competitive w the Beatles--Lou dubbed acid rock rivals "California Trash," though I've heard Grateful Dead's '66 live versions of "Cream Puff War" which I'd swear were VU, good VU

Eclecticism became a big deal w a lot of bands, I meant--could amount to resume rock, or something much more.

yeah but eclecticism for a bands in the 60s meant "we have a folk number *and" a hard rock number!", not "here's a beautifully crafted pop ballad oh and by the way here's 8 minutes of what sounds like a subway car hitting a bag full of cats"

I dunno, in addition to the Velvets, I can think of at least three other 60s bands who did exactly that (the latter).

Make us a list please?

Who, Small Faces, Grateful Dead, Beatles, Jimi Hendrix

the Dead are kinda the classic example I think - Live/Dead & Aoxomoxoa & Anthem of the Sun are all several kinds of intense in the same "we do art and we play rock" ways

it's causing my internal teenage self to shake his damn head when I admit that I'd probably take the Dead over the Velvets at this point in my life

there's just no way to respond to something like that

yeah I mean I love the Dead and all but

Loaded is a roots move not unlike Workingman's Dead or American Beauty.

But you can have both. "Over the bridge we go...It's a New Age!"

well this is from a guy who thought it was a good idea to record "I don't want to miss a thing" so

Loaded is a roots move not unlike Workingman's Dead or American Beauty.

really interesting take!

I mean we're not talking about creedence clearwater revival here.

good thing we aren't, aero hates them

xp

what???

aero that hurts my feelings

haha sorry man it's the truth

I mean I don't HATE em hate em like the Cranberries or whatever but they're v. boring to me

i listened to white light/white heat THIS MORNING

sup

it's causing my internal teenage self to shake his damn head when I admit that I'd probably take the Dead over the Velvets at this point in my life

lol @ u

loaded and the 1st album are my faves. don't really listen to the other 2 anymore. or haven't in a long time. years.

The Godz, Cromagnon

Some of the bonus jams on the CCR reissues of a few years ago actually have VU appeal, like remastered VU Live In '69 appeal--Fogarty could get into some one-chord/no-chord gnarl.

Fogerty, even.

"Ramble Tamble" is their "What Goes On."

creedence rules. so goth. fuck a nick cave.

If it has VU appeal, it would be Fogarty

Loaded vs. American Beauty

Fogpoparty!

revoke aero's citizenship asap imo

I can't understand not liking CCR it's like u hate america

lol am0n

I could imagine "Who Loves The Sun," "Lonesome Cowboy Bill," and maybe "Train Comin' Round The Bend" on American Beauty.

I mean jesus man

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C2K80kVwEOw

The Dead should invite Doug Yule to tour--lives in the Northwest, plays, records and maybe builds folkie instruments, according to "Fricke's Picks."

anyway I dunno bands like the who and the beatles messed around with noise but VU just got into it up to their elbows, it's the difference between "I dropped acid once in college, it was weird" and "I am an orange don't juice me lucifer"

like maybe if the who had an entire album side that sounded like the last 20 seconds of their smothers brothers appearance

idk I love certain CCR songs and all, but I put on Cosmos Factory and any song that wasnt Ramble Tamble and Up Around the Bend kinda made my eyes glaze over.

That being said, Ramble Tamble & Up Around the Bend justifies the existence of any band (along with Green River, Fortunate Son, and Bad Moon Rising)

xposts to whomever

I only brought up aero's CCR hate so that everyone else would feel more comfortable dismissing his weird-o opinions

total Velvets jam:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M_y-CHghv3w

loaded is totally the best CCR album

Check those CCR reissues, from mid-/late-00s. As for the Who making musical noise, Ever heard "The Ox", on The Who Sings My Generation? (American title, sorry). That was, what, '65, '66? Also, some of the live stuff in The Kids Are Alright doc.

xp lolol