Loaded: best VU album, rite guys?

If it has VU appeal, it would be Fogarty

Loaded vs. American Beauty

Fogpoparty!

revoke aero's citizenship asap imo

I can't understand not liking CCR it's like u hate america

lol am0n

I could imagine "Who Loves The Sun," "Lonesome Cowboy Bill," and maybe "Train Comin' Round The Bend" on American Beauty.

I mean jesus man

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C2K80kVwEOw

The Dead should invite Doug Yule to tour--lives in the Northwest, plays, records and maybe builds folkie instruments, according to "Fricke's Picks."

anyway I dunno bands like the who and the beatles messed around with noise but VU just got into it up to their elbows, it's the difference between "I dropped acid once in college, it was weird" and "I am an orange don't juice me lucifer"

like maybe if the who had an entire album side that sounded like the last 20 seconds of their smothers brothers appearance

idk I love certain CCR songs and all, but I put on Cosmos Factory and any song that wasnt Ramble Tamble and Up Around the Bend kinda made my eyes glaze over.

That being said, Ramble Tamble & Up Around the Bend justifies the existence of any band (along with Green River, Fortunate Son, and Bad Moon Rising)

xposts to whomever

I only brought up aero's CCR hate so that everyone else would feel more comfortable dismissing his weird-o opinions

total Velvets jam:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M_y-CHghv3w

loaded is totally the best CCR album

Check those CCR reissues, from mid-/late-00s. As for the Who making musical noise, Ever heard "The Ox", on The Who Sings My Generation? (American title, sorry). That was, what, '65, '66? Also, some of the live stuff in The Kids Are Alright doc.

xp lolol

Michael Yonkers might have the VU beat in that noise dept.

i went through this period of time where i didn't like the album "velvet underground" but now i'm digging it all over again

the mellowness rules

Michael Yonkers might have the VU beat in that noise dept.

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this album is so tite y'all

http://learningcurverecords.myshopify.com/products/cold-town-soft-zodic-lp-cd

this rare white light/white heat outtake smokes

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WApBW55-4l0

I was thinking of dragging Loaded out of the dust, but this thread has got me hankering for CCR instead

Were the records that hard to find in the U.S. until their CD releases in the eighties?

cassettes were widely available by 1986. have no idea about earlier.

the records were hard to find in the U.S. until their CD vinyl rereleases in the eighties

oh ok! I didn't know those records saw a tape release.

When I discovered them in '93 it was a perfect moment. Three covers out at once: Bryan Ferry ("All Tomorrow's Parties"), Duran Duran ("Femme Fatale"), Billy Idol ("Heroin"). Plus, um, they'd just reunited. So I bought Words and Music of Lou Reed, the only comp extant. I didn't buy the studio albums until the remasters came out in '96 or '97.

my brother bought me a cassette of the first album as a Hannukah present in '86

First heard them in the Doors movie. After getting all the Doors albums, I was upset that one Doors song "Heroin" wasn't on any of them.

I remember reading a big writeup in rolling stone by fricke? when they got reissued

Yep, VU and VU & Nico got 5 stars ("the great lost Velvet Underground album is no longer lost; it is simply great"), and WL/WH and the 3rd record each got 4 stars. I bought VU the week it came out on the basis of that review, not having heard them at all. Completely loved it from the first listen.

I would probably like CCR better if I didn't hate the way Fogerty sings, it's just such a drag to me. Can't front on how good their records sound or the vibe they get instrumentally but then Foges starts to croon and it's like yo dude get you some prune juice, it'll be cool

he's a soul shouter

yeah normally I'd be with you on the prune juice but fogerty pulls it off imo, the deep reverb on his voice on some of the CCR recordings sounds so great

but hating the way a lead singer sounds can irreversibly sour a band for me too so I feel ya (o hai the doors)

anyway those VU reishs hit the US around 84/85, before then they were like hen's teeth, at least I never saw a copy in my obsessive trawling of local record stores

an older friend of mine told me at the time how he once found a used copy of the 1st alb, he and his friends excitedly gathered around the record player to check out this much rumored holy grail, they dropped the needle on this completely beat-to-shit copy and that first listen through basically changed his life

nowadays kids are like I'll never forget were I was the first time I streamed "gucci gucci"

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it's not the best but it's the one i listen to the most.

Kind of agree with this. "Loaded" is the easiest to listen to straight through of the VU albums. It's a little silly at times, but that's part of the fun.

Oh, information scarcity. Now that I think about it, when I finally heard a lot of protopunk, and it didn't sound like Ramones/Clash/Sex Pistols, I was very confused.

Richard Hell plays blues rock?!?

Funhouse is all seven minutes songs?!??

Television don't ever use distortion?!??!?

lol otm

Loaded is a roots move not unlike Workingman's Dead or American Beauty.

never thought abt that, but it makes sense. "cool it down" has always reminded me very strongly of the dead, w the relaxed, shuffling swing, lazy guitar lines. love that song. loaded's whole first side is great, though side two stumbles occasionally (too boisterous on "head held high" and "train round the bend", "lonesome cowboy bill" kind of a throwaway).

Another lol otm at information scarcity post.

i heard all that stuff while i was first discovering punk, so i wasn't bothered by the discontinuities. television was pretty easy to adjust to if you were already used to the idea that talking heads 77 was punk.

I got the cds shortly after I heard the covers on REM's Dead Letter Office in the late 80s. VU was pretty common currency at my hs, at least amongst a pretty big core of people.

I bought Loaded last even though the red Rolling Stone guide, my bible at the turn of the 90s, rated it five stars (I think, can't check).

3rd > 1st > WL/WH > Loaded fwiw

I got all their original studio LPs in the early 70s, starting w Loaded, soon after it was released. They sounded like bootlegs. Reed told an interviewer they had one day each to master their first three (Loaded sounded about the same). And of course Live At Max's Kansas City sounded like it was recorded on a dictophone or something, which it was, and Live in '69 was pretty bootleggy audio-wise, though compare w the actual bootleg source and seems like Paul Nelson did some pretty astute editing. Of course this was part of their mystique, as the underground Beatles or Beatles upside down, as some said of Big Star (Beatles seek hitmaking vinyl perfection in Fortress of Solitude, VU slap it down and go make $ in clubs)

Paul Nelson's "editing"= song selection, not excising solos etc, best I recall.

Have you read that Paul Nelson bio, don?

xp there's a thing in the paul nelson bio/anthology where nelson talks about the hell he had to go through to get mercury to issue Live 69 -- the president was always like "Why did I let you release this Deep Purple album!?"

And wasn't there something about him finally getting shitcanned from Mercury after the two Dolls records stiffed?

yeah. sounds like he kept his job for as long as he did simply because rod stewart liked him.

"I am an orange don't juice me lucifer"

is this a line from something I have somehow missed my entire life?

Idk if it is or isn't but I thought it was an allusion to a pervasive 'urban legend' I heard about in high school about a drug dealing teenager who fell into a swimming pool with a hundred hits of acid in his pocket and lived his life thinking he was an orange

Loaded is such an easy album to like. How can you not like it? It's so warm and genial.