Does anyone else get the Beyonce ad on their cable?
"And let me upgrade YOU to the best channels in HD..."
I mean, fuck!
― ilxor, Saturday, 17 January 2009 07:24 (fifteen years ago) link
in a just world = single ladies 18 womanizer 0
― iatee, Saturday, 17 January 2009 07:32 (fifteen years ago) link
This poll proves there's 9 silly fuckwits on ILM.
― Moka, Saturday, 17 January 2009 09:18 (fifteen years ago) link
Yes.
― ilxor, Saturday, 17 January 2009 14:52 (fifteen years ago) link
Honestly the first time I heard Womanizer on the radio I started laughing. I didnt know how to react, I was thinking to myself 'is this shit for real?'
― Moka, Saturday, 17 January 2009 20:30 (fifteen years ago) link
womanizer ohyou're a womanizer womanizeroh ohwomanizeryouareoh
(oh womanizer)
...
― warmsherry, Saturday, 17 January 2009 20:58 (fifteen years ago) link
the first time I heard the real deep voice come in on the chorus and go "womanizuh womanizuh" ... oh how I lolled
that song will be forgotten in 5 mins. and Single Ladies will still be played years from now in chick-flick ads and at weddings to introduce the bouquet toss (neither meant as an insult, just sayin')
― dmr, Saturday, 17 January 2009 21:04 (fifteen years ago) link
the lyrics to single ladies gross me out far more than womanizer
i think its the faux-female-power notion which is contradicted by the use of the word "it" and the implied property thing with the putting a ring on "it" etc. that contradiction just kinda makes me wanna say shut the fuck up stupid.
whereas womanizer is just pure pop nonsense. also i find the chorus to be strangely catchy in the way the word womanizer is along with "oh" are used in an odd little pattern thats hard to remember.
i would not like to hear either of these songs over and over again, though.
― vergangenheitsbewaeltigung (later arpeggiator), Saturday, 17 January 2009 23:50 (fifteen years ago) link
Beyonce lyrics have faux-female-power notions and water is wet.
― The Reverend, Sunday, 18 January 2009 00:05 (fifteen years ago) link
it = a finger (xp)
― Socktor Duperman (k3vin k.), Sunday, 18 January 2009 00:05 (fifteen years ago) link
strangely catchy .... pattern thats hard to remember
^^^ isn't that the opposite of catchy
― dmr, Sunday, 18 January 2009 00:10 (fifteen years ago) link
lolol
― Socktor Duperman (k3vin k.), Sunday, 18 January 2009 00:13 (fifteen years ago) link
rofl
― Moka, Sunday, 18 January 2009 00:31 (fifteen years ago) link
"If you like her then you shoulda put a ring on her" isn't nearly as striking a line. But arguing about Beyonce lyrics is probably missing the point.
― iatee, Sunday, 18 January 2009 00:51 (fifteen years ago) link
Well, that whole person's-value-as-property is the central point behind nearly every Beyonce single, so it shouldn't surprise anyone by this point. She's consistent about calling it as she sees it.
― Joseph McCombs, Sunday, 18 January 2009 00:58 (fifteen years ago) link
no, catchy does not = easy to remember. and yes, beyonce's attitude in her lyrics still annoys me. why should i have to be surprised to be annoyed?
― vergangenheitsbewaeltigung (later arpeggiator), Sunday, 18 January 2009 16:36 (fifteen years ago) link
This poll ending in a tie is perfect and the only acceptable outcome. They're tied as the best pop single of the year imo.
― Eric H., Sunday, 18 January 2009 16:39 (fifteen years ago) link
and "it" is not just a finger "k3vin k." i don't think she is saying "if you liked [my finger]"
― vergangenheitsbewaeltigung (later arpeggiator), Sunday, 18 January 2009 16:40 (fifteen years ago) link
single ladies is awesome, womanizer is just bad, not even close to that "it's britney bitch" song....the whole nu britney thing on ILM is just weird to me don't get it at all
― ie: BANGING (M@tt He1ges0n), Sunday, 18 January 2009 16:42 (fifteen years ago) link
I kinda hate just about everything Britney's ever done. But "Womanizer" is the big fat exception to the rule. It's like "SOS" done righter and without coasting on the sample.
― Eric H., Sunday, 18 January 2009 16:55 (fifteen years ago) link
the whole nu britney thing on ILM is just weird to me don't get it at all
it's mostly the knock-on effect of blackout innit.
most of britney's new album is kinda mediocre but this bonus track 'amnesia' is really awesome -
― lex pretend, Sunday, 18 January 2009 17:13 (fifteen years ago) link
"Gimme More" is the best Britney song of the past 5 years; I sort of feel like she should have retired after that.
"Single Ladies" is fucking massive in pretty much every way and people calling the lyrics "faux-empowering" seem to be operating under a very odd, narrow definition of the word "empowering"; how, exactly, is it denigrating to women for one to say to a man "if you didn't want to see me with other guys, you should have married me"?
― ^likes black girls (HI DERE), Sunday, 18 January 2009 20:46 (fifteen years ago) link
Gimme More is only midtable in Blackout song hotness
― Bondzilla vs Mechaholmes (blueski), Sunday, 18 January 2009 21:03 (fifteen years ago) link
Well I hated "Piece Of Me" a lot, like almost to unreasonable levels, and the other one "Break The Ice" was nice enough but not nearly as sleazily appealing as "Gimme More".
― ^likes black girls (HI DERE), Sunday, 18 January 2009 21:04 (fifteen years ago) link
"unusual you" best song on new record by a mile imo
― Socktor Duperman (k3vin k.), Sunday, 18 January 2009 21:06 (fifteen years ago) link
― Bondzilla vs Mechaholmes (blueski), Sunday, January 18, 2009 9:03 PM (4 minutes ago)
― Plaxico (I know, right?), Sunday, 18 January 2009 21:08 (fifteen years ago) link
Freakshow, Get Naked and Radar...?
blackout best to worst =
freakshowhot as icetoy soldiergimme morebreak the icepiece of meget naked (i got a plan)radarooh ooh babyheaven on earthperfect loverwhy should i be sad?
― lex pretend, Sunday, 18 January 2009 21:11 (fifteen years ago) link
when i first heard it 'gimme more' would've been much nearer the bottom but it's a true jam which has held up a lot better than the more look-at-me 'piece of me' (which itself has held up fine)
― lex pretend, Sunday, 18 January 2009 21:12 (fifteen years ago) link
agreeing on your last point but that list is all wrong (esp in placement of radar you nutjob)
― Plaxico (I know, right?), Sunday, 18 January 2009 21:13 (fifteen years ago) link
Yeah never heard Blackout because I figured it would sound more like "Piece Of Me" than "Gimme More".
― ^likes black girls (HI DERE), Sunday, 18 January 2009 21:15 (fifteen years ago) link
'radar' is 10/10 for sure, it's just that the 7 above it are also 10/10
though re: 'break the ice', i really hanker after an extended club version - when the beat drops out for the "i like this part" section, it never comes back in, but it feels like it's going into some epic breakdown and build-up, but instead of the beat and chorus coming triumphantly back in, the song ends
― lex pretend, Sunday, 18 January 2009 21:17 (fifteen years ago) link
It sounds more like none of those, really. Woah, lex you've got most of my favorites backwards there. "Heaven on Earth" is by far my favorite song on Blackout. It's so Beatles-y and sad and harmonically rich.
― Turangalila, Sunday, 18 January 2009 21:18 (fifteen years ago) link
this is like trying to rank the songs on New Amerykah heh
― Bondzilla vs Mechaholmes (blueski), Sunday, 18 January 2009 21:19 (fifteen years ago) link
xxp, I remember you pointing this out at the time, and I think its one of the crooked pleasures
― Plaxico (I know, right?), Sunday, 18 January 2009 21:27 (fifteen years ago) link
i must agree that lex's list is all kinds of wrong, even tho in a way Freakshow is the most direct/most personal song on the album and the only one written by her (i think?).
they played the thing, Get Naked the other night at a bar and i got really excited. it sounded a lot better not in my office.
― Surmounter, Sunday, 18 January 2009 23:27 (fifteen years ago) link
The producer of "Bad Girl" is Danja, who also helmed most of Britney Spears' Blackout, an album where Spears' vocal presence undergoes brutal electronic manipulation, turning her into one component of a runaway machine. Blackout is a document of a failed cyborgization: Machine grafts failing to take, turning signal into scary babble. The sheeny, erotic plasticity of Welcome to the Dollhouse sounds like a sequel, what the process was meant to produce. Britney's own follow-up, Circus, is messier-- better song-for-song than the Danity album but less compelling. "Womanizer"'s taunting stuck-disc refrain sounds like a knowing attempt to replicate the unhappy accidents of Blackout. The looping disintegrates the word's meaning, turning it into something else: a machine to produce women? The villainous producer cackles with glee born from a science gone mad! "Place her....in the womanizer!"
^^^this is so spot on, even for you guyz who've tired of the cyborg-britney comparisons (tom ewings latest poptimist thingy for pitchfork by the way)
also this:13. If Timbaland is the motherfucker at the corner of the party, playing too cool and together, understanding too much about the process to be truly involved, then Britney is the whole island of broken toys. Her work was always too human, too delicate to be truly robotic. Lonely and isolated, it’s cognitive dissonance was the exact opposite of the sleekness of JT or the self aware earnestness of Kayne, or the eroticized coldness of Beyonce (side note: Beyonce should really push to cover Grace Jones pull up to the bumper baby the studio has made so many advancements, and she could make it sound less efficient). The secret (or at least under spoken narrative about Britney is that of the machine taking over—she has become more mechanized and less human the more she has fallen apart.) That is a 20th century narrative, of the robots taking over, or being a robot instead of a human, it is the horror of technology found in Metropolis, in 2001, in Ballard’s Crash or the Atrocity Exhibition, in Summer Toys Last All Day Long, or the Terminator. Britney is no longer popular, because she is not cybernetic, because she is fearful of the robot taking over her body. The consensual merging of body and technology is nowhere to be found in her work. 14. Her first number one hit, is hit me baby one more time, processed to all hell, but human, and historically girl pop, with hints of The Crystal’s He Hit Me and It Felt Like A Kiss. Her voice is slight, but not delicate, beautiful and adolescent. It contains a short but significant piano motif, which is not bombastic, or cut apart, and is very clearly an acoustic instrument. Born to Make You Happy is a ballad about her loneliness and her sadness. Lyrically attached to Carole King, with a definite electronic beat, but which once again contrasting once again on her natural, can ignore, teenage girl voice. Oops I Did I Again, starts with space noises, and the video features a narrative from Mars, Britney makes her self an alien, literally. The first major electronic manipulation of vocals. Lucky, profoundly nostalgic, but nostalgic for a time she could not remember, self-consciously meta, and ironic, disassociate. The narrative begins to tip from the music of Britney to the consciousness of Britney. The upgrade starts. Me Against the Music—the Madonna single, who knows the pop music history, and who has flirted with becoming a robot since the mid 80s, growing into a maternal figure, the discussion becomes who will be her successor, she stages an event seemingly out of H Rider Haggard at that years MTV Video Music Awards, with Britney and her pop rival Xtina in dresses, kissing Madonna in Black Leather. That Xtina retreats into literal Burlesque, making herself over into Doris Day for the neo-retro crowd, and Britney falls deeper into madness. Madonna latter realizes her successor will be one who synthesizes better then he creates, namely JT. Toxic—avant noise, and genuinely separate from Britney’s other work, the harshness will be tamed by people like Rhianna and Beyonce, It is also one of the most profoundly self loathing songs, the self awareness, and the terror of losing control is profound. That it is now more electronic then human, and that the voice found in her earlier work is now lost, is clear. Everytime, this would be the one that would disprove my thesis, a beautiful and fluttering ballad, with a genuine piano and almost no electronic effects. But the video ends with her suicide, any attempts to be a pop star leads to destruction, the desire to be full with the pleasure of music cannot be found here. The robot is not the literal mechanical voice, the too pure production, but the ability, to, in the words of Marianne Faithful “slide through life on charm” That Britney’s last album was so chaotic, so broken, the exact opposite of the new trends for hermetic sealing of emotion into semiotic deconstructions of desire. That Britney has to name herself, that she begins the album by the almost fetishistic naming of self, is the exact opposite of the third person pseudo humility found in the works mentioned. Britney cannot upgrade this, because she is essentially human, and to upgrade is essentially anti-human.
― Plaxico (I know, right?), Monday, 19 January 2009 00:59 (fifteen years ago) link
with some time, the answer is definitely womanizer. single ladies is too clunky. it's like a toy hammer.
― Surmounter, Tuesday, 24 March 2009 15:25 (fifteen years ago) link
nahh
― abe being busy (k3vin k.), Tuesday, 24 March 2009 15:37 (fifteen years ago) link
I was a latecomer to it but I loooove Single Ladies. The production is amazing, the backing track with its minimal beats and Frogger noises bears almost no relation to the rest of the song - I can imagine Beyonce in the studio doing her standard sassy wo-oh-oh thing and getting on down to a track full of horns and pumping beats. Then at the last minute unbeknownst to her the producers switch in this oddity instead. The two only come together in the chorus when the sinister synths back up her scolding like a bunch of heavyset bodyguards.
― ledge, Tuesday, 24 March 2009 15:40 (fifteen years ago) link
the production strikes me as really loud and obvious :/ i can see how it would sound amazing but i think i'd have to be on crack
― Surmounter, Tuesday, 24 March 2009 15:43 (fifteen years ago) link
single ladies is gimmicky but memorable. womanizer is kind of boring.
― call all destroyer, Tuesday, 24 March 2009 15:44 (fifteen years ago) link
this seems even more obviously single ladies with some time to me. i can't even remember "womanizer" now, but "if you like then you should have put a ring on it" will be in my head forever
― Reege & Leif (M@tt He1ges0n), Tuesday, 24 March 2009 15:55 (fifteen years ago) link
Sur you are completely, totally wrong about this one.
― the call of the taint (HI DERE), Tuesday, 24 March 2009 15:57 (fifteen years ago) link
no YOU
― Surmounter, Tuesday, 24 March 2009 15:58 (fifteen years ago) link
Both of Brit's followup singles are way way way WAY better than "Womanizer", which really only benefits from her being a hot biker chick for part of the video.
― the call of the taint (HI DERE), Tuesday, 24 March 2009 16:00 (fifteen years ago) link
it's like a toy hammer.
video should've been Beyonce playing whack-a-mole to the beat imo
― Hard House SugBanton (blueski), Tuesday, 24 March 2009 16:00 (fifteen years ago) link
― the call of the taint (HI DERE), Tuesday, March 24, 2009 12:00 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
respectfully disagree. i thought circus was better at first, but it's more elementary. it's catchy and amazing, but sounds pretty dated.
"fuck me" i like, but still no womanizer.
― Surmounter, Tuesday, 24 March 2009 16:02 (fifteen years ago) link
single ladies is pretty horrible, including the video.
― FREE DOM AND ETHAN (special guest stars mark bronson), Tuesday, 24 March 2009 16:06 (fifteen years ago) link
newdepechemodesingle.avi
― Hard House SugBanton (blueski), Tuesday, 24 March 2009 16:09 (fifteen years ago) link
lol
― tears of a self-clowning oven (The Reverend), Saturday, 1 January 2011 21:47 (thirteen years ago) link
lmao Rev
― The Brainwasher, Saturday, 1 January 2011 21:50 (thirteen years ago) link
mostly wish i'd been following along w/this in real time
― bear, bear, bear, Sunday, 2 January 2011 01:12 (thirteen years ago) link
Lady Gaga – Bad Romance Yesterday 4:19am Lady Gaga – Bad Romance Yesterday 4:14am Lady Gaga – Bad Romance Yesterday 4:09am Lady Gaga – Bad Romance Yesterday 4:04am Far East Movement – Like A G6 Yesterday 4:00am Rihanna – Only Girl (In The World) Yesterday 3:56am Rihanna – Only Girl (In The World) Yesterday 3:51am Beyoncé – Single Ladies (Put A Ring On It) Loved track Yesterday 3:47am Beyoncé – Single Ladies (Put A Ring On It) Loved track Yesterday 3:44am Beyoncé – Single Ladies (Put A Ring On It) Loved track Yesterday 3:40am Beyoncé – Single Ladies (Put A Ring On It) Loved track Yesterday 3:34am Beyoncé – Single Ladies (Put A Ring On It) Loved track Yesterday 3:31am Beyoncé – Single Ladies (Put A Ring On It) Loved track Yesterday 3:27am Beyoncé – Single Ladies (Put A Ring On It) Loved track Yesterday 3:24am Beyoncé – Single Ladies (Put A Ring On It) Loved track Yesterday 3:21am Beyoncé – Single Ladies (Put A Ring On It) Loved track Yesterday 3:17am
sounds about right
― tears of a self-clowning oven (The Reverend), Sunday, 2 January 2011 01:45 (thirteen years ago) link
ha, rad
― bear, bear, bear, Sunday, 2 January 2011 01:56 (thirteen years ago) link
nice
― surm, Sunday, 2 January 2011 07:39 (thirteen years ago) link
the synths in womanizer are honestly pretty hilarious
― surm, Tuesday, 9 April 2013 23:37 (eleven years ago) link
like when they first come in lol, it's funny that that was like a decision that somebody made
― surm, Tuesday, 9 April 2013 23:45 (eleven years ago) link
wow @ rev
― k3vin k., Tuesday, 9 April 2013 23:47 (eleven years ago) link
loool
― Heyman (crüt), Tuesday, 9 April 2013 23:50 (eleven years ago) link
honestly looks like one of my playlists at 2 in the morning
― surm, Tuesday, 9 April 2013 23:54 (eleven years ago) link
<3 Rev
I spent money on an engagement ring one time that I will never, ever get back
so, single ladies always makes me feel nauseated
― I, rrational (mh), Wednesday, 10 April 2013 02:49 (eleven years ago) link
i heard "single ladies" at the market the other day, and it still sounds like something you would sing on a farm
― surm, Tuesday, June 23, 2009 12:25 AM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
this still makes me crack up
― waht, I am true black metal worrior (Neanderthal), Friday, 24 February 2017 04:03 (seven years ago) link
holy shit
― Fluffy Saint-Bernard (Stevie D(eux)), Friday, 24 February 2017 18:20 (seven years ago) link
Rev's drunken sing fest also all-time
― waht, I am true black metal worrior (Neanderthal), Friday, 24 February 2017 18:52 (seven years ago) link
REV <33333333333
― lex pretend, Friday, 24 February 2017 18:54 (seven years ago) link
yeah the rev revive is the best thing that's ever happened
― the raindrops and drop tops of lived, earned experience (BradNelson), Friday, 24 February 2017 18:56 (seven years ago) link
what a fun thread
<3 Britney but "womanizer" is pretty ridiculous
― a but (brimstead), Friday, 24 February 2017 19:55 (seven years ago) link
:)
― Get Me Bodied (Extended Mix), Saturday, 25 February 2017 09:48 (seven years ago) link
i heard "single ladies" at the market the other day, and it still sounds like something you would sing on a farm― surm, Tuesday, June 23, 2009 12:25 AM Bookmark Flag Post Permalinkthis still makes me crack up― waht, I am true black metal worrior (Neanderthal), Friday, February 24, 2017 4:03 AM (two days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― waht, I am true black metal worrior (Neanderthal), Friday, February 24, 2017 4:03 AM (two days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
Hehehehe! I never thought about it that way before, but it does!
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