― We Buy a Hammer For Dadaismus (Dada), Thursday, 2 December 2004 15:33 (nineteen years ago) link
x-post no need for that!
― pete b. (pete b.), Thursday, 2 December 2004 15:33 (nineteen years ago) link
― Sick Mouthy (Nick Southall), Thursday, 2 December 2004 15:34 (nineteen years ago) link
― We Buy a Hammer For Dadaismus (Dada), Thursday, 2 December 2004 15:36 (nineteen years ago) link
― Sick Mouthy (Nick Southall), Thursday, 2 December 2004 15:36 (nineteen years ago) link
― We Buy a Hammer For Dadaismus (Dada), Thursday, 2 December 2004 15:37 (nineteen years ago) link
― Sick Mouthy (Nick Southall), Thursday, 2 December 2004 15:38 (nineteen years ago) link
― pete b. (pete b.), Thursday, 2 December 2004 15:43 (nineteen years ago) link
― Sick Mouthy (Nick Southall), Thursday, 2 December 2004 15:44 (nineteen years ago) link
― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Thursday, 2 December 2004 15:45 (nineteen years ago) link
― :| (....), Thursday, 2 December 2004 15:46 (nineteen years ago) link
― Sick Mouthy (Nick Southall), Thursday, 2 December 2004 15:47 (nineteen years ago) link
No thanks, I did some on the weekend and I'm still feeling a little low.
― Chewshabadoo (Chewshabadoo), Thursday, 2 December 2004 15:47 (nineteen years ago) link
― We Buy a Hammer For Dadaismus (Dada), Thursday, 2 December 2004 15:48 (nineteen years ago) link
on the money, more money and then some
― Baaderonixxx le Jeune (Fabfunk), Thursday, 2 December 2004 16:23 (nineteen years ago) link
― grimly fiendish (grimlord), Thursday, 2 December 2004 16:24 (nineteen years ago) link
― Sick Mouthy (Nick Southall), Thursday, 2 December 2004 16:29 (nineteen years ago) link
― pete b. (pete b.), Thursday, 2 December 2004 16:32 (nineteen years ago) link
― ddb (ddb), Thursday, 2 December 2004 16:57 (nineteen years ago) link
http://www.guardian.co.uk/drugs/Story/0,2763,521419,00.html
― piscesboy, Thursday, 2 December 2004 17:06 (nineteen years ago) link
Fun fun fun!
― dog latin (dog latin), Thursday, 2 December 2004 17:17 (nineteen years ago) link
― Mark (MarkR), Thursday, 2 December 2004 17:40 (nineteen years ago) link
!!!!Oh man... I can't imagine.
I did some on the weekend and I'm still feeling a little low.[snip]doing it every weekend and then being a horrible misanthrope for the next five days[snip]Dud if done every weekend[snip][...] makes you numb and grumpy
OK, so yeah, this is a common complaint. I find even without chemicals, having a really fun night out with friends, then going back to "normal" life (work/school) can be depressing. Actually, that's been the story of my week so far. But I can see how that would be magnified by the chemical aspect (lack of serotonin or whatever).
And thanks for the tips dog latin.
― sleep (sleep), Thursday, 2 December 2004 19:05 (nineteen years ago) link
― Hot Pants, Thursday, 2 December 2004 19:10 (nineteen years ago) link
― anonymousposter, Thursday, 2 December 2004 19:17 (nineteen years ago) link
The essential tip with stuff like this is to always treat it like it's the last time you'll ever do it. Over-abusing any kind of substance is never going to do you any favours so it goes without saying that keeping things sensible, following any tips and hints and making sure you are with people you know and trust are all U & K.
― dog latin (dog latin), Thursday, 2 December 2004 19:19 (nineteen years ago) link
I only did half a pill once at a party because I'm a chickenshit. I got the buildup, but def. not the full experience. I'm planning on taking it when I see Animal Collective in April. Does this seem like a good idea? And don't say no just cause you hate AC.
― DJ Mr. Face Stabba, M.D. (Whitey on the Moon), Thursday, 12 March 2009 05:30 (fifteen years ago) link
It sounds like a great idea. You'll love it. Do it with a pretty girl
― turtles all the way down (Face of Wolf), Thursday, 12 March 2009 06:46 (fifteen years ago) link
take some multi-vitamins to make the next day easier
― turtles all the way down (Face of Wolf), Thursday, 12 March 2009 06:47 (fifteen years ago) link
Not sure I'd take E at an Animal Colective gig - not much chance for dancing, no? Where do you live?
― Chewshabadoo, Thursday, 12 March 2009 09:32 (fifteen years ago) link
I will admit the only time I've heard Animal Collective was at a gig 5 years ago so I may be wrong about their music, but I assumed it was very freeform, noise centered and dense. Whereas E is much better suited to music with space, groove, and above all repetition - seeing a good DJ who plays something along the axis of techno, deep house or minimal would be my recommendation.
My 'first time' was at a Portishead gig about 15 years ago, it was good, but it wasn't until around about my 5th time taking it, dancing to a DJ playing stripped-back house that I really "got" ecstasy.
― Chewshabadoo, Thursday, 12 March 2009 09:41 (fifteen years ago) link
my experience with E is... i'll love whatever the fuck is playing or going on
― turtles all the way down (Face of Wolf), Thursday, 12 March 2009 09:54 (fifteen years ago) link
good ones and bad ones, depending on MDMA content.
― Dr X O'Skeleton, Thursday, 12 March 2009 10:38 (fifteen years ago) link
Well that’s kind of the point (unless you’ve over done it), but there are some things which are a natural fit to ecstasy’s rapture and the repetitive mind-set it puts you in.
― Chewshabadoo, Thursday, 12 March 2009 11:22 (fifteen years ago) link
Yeah, i know, but Whitey seems to be asking if he'll have a good time and the answer is definitely yes.It may not be the best possible time that he could be having with the drug, but it'll still be fucking fantastic.
― turtles all the way down (Face of Wolf), Thursday, 12 March 2009 11:52 (fifteen years ago) link
And it'll make the Animal Collective sound less shit!
― Hreidarsson The Storm (Matt DC), Thursday, 12 March 2009 11:54 (fifteen years ago) link
The Marmite of rock.… More of a Bovril man myself.
― Chewshabadoo, Thursday, 12 March 2009 12:13 (fifteen years ago) link
hi
― janice (surm), Monday, 23 August 2010 00:27 (thirteen years ago) link
Hello!
― Gravel Puzzleworth, Monday, 23 August 2010 00:29 (thirteen years ago) link
Need a back rub, surm?
― Gucci Mane hermeneuticist (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 23 August 2010 00:30 (thirteen years ago) link
mhmm
― janice (surm), Monday, 23 August 2010 00:33 (thirteen years ago) link
I can't think of anything more perverse than rolling and posting on ILX, unless your keyboard can make out with you.
― Gucci Mane hermeneuticist (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 23 August 2010 00:35 (thirteen years ago) link
it can't do that
i might need to go out
― janice (surm), Monday, 23 August 2010 00:36 (thirteen years ago) link
I haven't taken the stuff in years. I'd love to.
― Gucci Mane hermeneuticist (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 23 August 2010 00:37 (thirteen years ago) link
luv
― a dystopian society awaits if we continue on this path. (contenderizer), Monday, 23 August 2010 00:48 (thirteen years ago) link
Perfect E musik: "Music For 18 Musicians". Neu. Tavener's "The Protecting Veil". For the coming down: Juana Molina. Reserve for max 2-3 times a year and it won't grind on you. Magnesium + 5-HTP. Avoid alcohol like the plague (maybe just a bottle of champagne between 2 people). Drop with your spouse. Classic squared.
― spazzercise (staggerlee), Monday, 23 August 2010 01:15 (thirteen years ago) link
I'd like to know how other people feel about this!
― Gravel Puzzleworth, Monday, 23 August 2010 01:38 (thirteen years ago) link
An acquaintance described it as literally being "too good" - this is a guy (still under 20)[...] Now he DJs trance for fun.
Doesn't this kind of answer the question.
― I'm banishing you to a time warp from which you will never return (EDB), Monday, 23 August 2010 02:14 (thirteen years ago) link
NOTHING feels as good as a good e
people who get really into smack do it because NOTHING feels as good as being on heroin to them, right? but you can be on a good e and be thinking "this is the BEST, why don't I do this more often, or ALL the time, I'm feeling GREAT and the music sounds SO GOOD" without, the next day, having to sell everything you own and start stealing or sex work to keep feeling that good feeling. you might just go "what a great time, nothing feels as good as that... maybe we should do it again for new year's or something?" idk, insert actual point here
making someone pretty laugh a lot is also a p good feeling but doesn't last nearly as long
― let no-one live rent free in your butt (sic), Saturday, 8 August 2015 16:30 (eight years ago) link
i hadn't done anything in about 2/3 years until going to ibiza, i think that combined with the quality gave me what i thought was long gone, something close to the first e feeling. having said that, when it became the 6am chatting on the beach etc, even though it was real talk with real friends, in the back of my mind i felt like we were all oversharing or like there was something unpleasant about all fences between people being removed by this powerhouse mental chemical, railroading over all our individuality. perhaps not in those exact words at the time! more like a sense of deja vu...
it is a v strange drug - i saw dj harvey play on monday and it was definitely one of the best parties i've ever been to (i've done e enough times that i can tell you the best five nights of my life and prob the best 10 and they aren't the last 5 or 10 times i did an e!) - i think maybe harvey was the pinnacle for me - amazing music but also a crowd of my age or older, even before getting high nearly everybody at the party had introduced themselves and we were all having a really good time. i think the parties and back at houses etc lack the element of strangers, you need to be meeting new people while on e.
that was a real throwback for me - i'm quite shy, which may seem ridiculous but i know now via years of mental health probs and counselling that i am a quite reclusive person in lots of ways. i realised that the removal of all barriers in a communal setting with strangers, and the kind of equal playing field it creates between the sexes is something i miss a lot. like i was talking to some scot who lives in london, v attractive, pretty etc, and her husband, and i had a big long chat with this person for an hour - then at various points i'd be on the dancefloor and get a big hug or like i'd flick her ear or something. i mean that can be flirting or that kind of thing but i guess when real goodwill or commonality is boosted by e it can be amazing. and this was a party high in the hills above san antonio in this beautiful picturesque hotel.
if i could go to parties like that in london maybe i'd still go out to hear music, but i very very very much can't - most dance music parties are so fucking terrible and full of identikit rude morons with no interest in talking to others and no personality to share with them if they did...
― doing my Objectives, handling some intense stuff (LocalGarda), Sunday, 9 August 2015 19:02 (eight years ago) link
i'd say there's a decent chance i'll never do it again tho after the last week. the gaps are certainly getting longer and longer anyway.
― doing my Objectives, handling some intense stuff (LocalGarda), Sunday, 9 August 2015 19:05 (eight years ago) link
"Just took an acid blotter this weekend for the first time in ages, Interesting experience! I became incredible physically aware of how hyper-tense I am all over my body and how much I need to relax."
really wish i needed to do acid to come to this realization
― rushomancy, Sunday, 9 August 2015 19:26 (eight years ago) link
most dance music parties are so fucking terrible and full of identikit rude morons with no interest in talking to others and no personality to share with them if they did...
sadly very true in london and one of the main reasons i'll almost always take a gig in a smaller venue there (where there is an increased likelihood this won't be the case) over a better paid big room gig. oh, and i'm glad you had such a good time in ibiza!
― stirmonster, Sunday, 9 August 2015 20:01 (eight years ago) link
it's a pretty awful place, ibiza, apart from the sun and the parts outside the main hives, but the harvey gig was amazing. very strange as it was just a guestlist you emailed for but the hotel it was in was beautiful and guests were treated like they'd paid to check in, really classy. i dunno how it wasn't overrun and crazy.
should probably make more effort to go out in london though, especially when you guys are playing. there is the occasional good smaller party but a few years ago i would end up just walking straight back out of clubs i'd paid into, i had to stop lest i ended up hating the music rather than the clubs. i do go to bodyhammer down here when it's on.
― doing my Objectives, handling some intense stuff (LocalGarda), Monday, 10 August 2015 00:21 (eight years ago) link
That's such a great story really LG. Summed up everything about what I (used to) love about it. Like you say, the chances to do it are getting waaay further apart, but I haven't resigned myself to not doing it - it wasn't so much a conscious decision, rather a situational one where the opportunities arise less often.
― 9 days from now a.k.a next weekend. (dog latin), Monday, 10 August 2015 10:56 (eight years ago) link
for me it's more just where once it was an automatic yes when someone produced a class a, now it's an automatic no. the why and how of that would be like the why and how of youth's passing itself :)
― doing my Objectives, handling some intense stuff (LocalGarda), Monday, 10 August 2015 15:00 (eight years ago) link
these days all i ever see at parties is chaz, which I can never honestly say i've had a wonderful time on. sometimes mandy powder, but it's also rare these days. my friends don't really go out to clubs or raves any more and i can't really remember the last time i went to a decent house party that wasn't hosted by me, so.
― 9 days from now a.k.a next weekend. (dog latin), Monday, 10 August 2015 15:04 (eight years ago) link
ibiza is really beautiful and wonderful if you stay away from certain places. i stay in Talalamca when i go and i'd really recommend it. There are hardly any brits there at all.
― Acting Crazy (Instrumental) (jed_), Monday, 10 August 2015 17:45 (eight years ago) link
Realized tonight that my last tablet would be old enough to drive.
Would love to do it again but I can't imagine the right crowd coming along - my friends and peers are married/parents, in bed by 10pm types.
― louise ck (milo z), Sunday, 10 September 2017 07:47 (six years ago) link
I heard this year that the drug was synthesised way earlier than one might expect and probably before its usage could really be what it became. & that it was popularised about 60 or 70 years later. After some clinical usage which itself was like 50 years after its initial synthesis.So wondering what it was initially synthesised for and how they came upon later usage.
― Stevolende, Sunday, 10 September 2017 08:42 (six years ago) link
However, in these documents there were no indications for plans to develop an appetite suppressant. MDMA was mentioned only casually and without being called ‘MDMA’. In the patent specification, MDMA appeared only as a chemical formula and in the annual report it was referred to as ‘Methylsafrylamin’. The accurate back- ground for the first synthesis of MDMA was that Merck wanted to find and patent pathways leading to haemo- static substances, not appetite suppressors. The company tried to evade an existing patent for the synthesis of a clot- ting agent called ‘Hydrastinin’ held by the German com- petitor Farbenfabriken Elberfeld und Decker or Bayer/ Elberfeld, as stated explicitly by the head of Merck’s labo- ratory, Dr Walter Beckh (1870–1915) in the Annual Report for 1912.
― streeps of range (wins), Sunday, 10 September 2017 08:49 (six years ago) link
A good thoughtful, and open, thread. Particularly enjoyed this description of the human condition:
Well, it did make a difference to us, but without making a difference in us. Not even birth is a greater breach of promise. The world is the same dismal day-to-day wake-to-work regimen, the same work-to-eat, eat-to-shit cycle, the same sleep-to-dream routine, sharing in order to quarrel over the cut, the same old same it was before...
― Luna Schlosser, Sunday, 10 September 2017 12:23 (six years ago) link
That's a passage from the tunnel by William Gass, he is writing about ecstasy (not the substance) but I guess I thought it was fitting
― streeps of range (wins), Sunday, 10 September 2017 12:35 (six years ago) link