WORST Single By Green Day or the Offspring

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GD: The Saints Are Coming (with U2)

^^^this was for a good cause, but no.

J0rdan S., Friday, 14 December 2007 01:42 (sixteen years ago) link

Also, "Good Riddance" has the disadvantage of being played continuously for about four months. For this to be fair you have to imagine a world in which "Original Prankster" had enjoyed that kind of success.

Doctor Casino, Friday, 14 December 2007 01:45 (sixteen years ago) link

Also

YOU CAN DO IT

Whiney G. Weingarten, Friday, 14 December 2007 01:59 (sixteen years ago) link

Yeah, could someone please explain to me how Green Day are worse than the Offspring? Green Day have committed their crimes, but least they're semi-tuneful. The Offspring's songs are usually just a grating mess fronted by one of the most annoying singers in the history of recorded sound. "Pretty Fly for a White Guy" is the kind of thing that needs to be brought before an international tribunal.

adamj, Friday, 14 December 2007 02:49 (sixteen years ago) link

God. Want You Bad is so bad. So fucking bad.

Mordechai Shinefield, Friday, 14 December 2007 04:12 (sixteen years ago) link

pretty fly takes this with no effort whatsoever

electricsound, Friday, 14 December 2007 04:21 (sixteen years ago) link

Green Day have committed their crimes, but least they're semi-tuneful. The Offspring's songs are usually just a grating mess fronted by one of the most annoying singers in the history of recorded sound.

This is the absolute polar opposite of my opinion. I hate Billie Joe's voice with a passion, and I don't like a lot of what the Offspring have but at least they've made some decent tunes.

Curt1s Stephens, Friday, 14 December 2007 05:41 (sixteen years ago) link

have done

Curt1s Stephens, Friday, 14 December 2007 05:41 (sixteen years ago) link

Want You Bad sounds like Green Day!

Whiney G. Weingarten, Friday, 14 December 2007 05:51 (sixteen years ago) link

Offspring sound like Green Day with extra Ian Astbury and fart machines, which can lead to singles both better and worse than Green Day's.

da croupier, Friday, 14 December 2007 05:53 (sixteen years ago) link

I vote for all of them.

Hurting 2, Friday, 14 December 2007 05:55 (sixteen years ago) link

Why the hell is this not two separate polls? This is retarded. It's a like a poll that was "Worst Led Zeppelin/Bad Company single." Also retarded: Hating on "Good Riddance (Time of Your Life)," clearly a classic.

I can't understand how anyone could like The Offspring more than Green Day.

My name is Kenny, Friday, 14 December 2007 08:38 (sixteen years ago) link

"Good Riddance (Time of Your Life)," clearly a classic.

Kenny, you are so money, you don't even know you're money.

Mordechai Shinefield, Friday, 14 December 2007 08:44 (sixteen years ago) link

^this is probably true. i love "time of your life"

J0rdan S., Friday, 14 December 2007 08:46 (sixteen years ago) link

"Pretty Fly for a White Guy" is the kind of thing that needs to be brought before an international tribunal.

Why? The lyrics are brilliant, the video is brilliant. It is rather the persona they are trying to parody that needs to be brought before an international tribunal.

Surely, the melody sucks, which is just natural considering they are trying to ape hip-hop.

Geir Hongro, Friday, 14 December 2007 09:12 (sixteen years ago) link

"Worst Led Zeppelin/Bad Company single."

POLL

Dom Passantino, Friday, 14 December 2007 09:22 (sixteen years ago) link

Exactly how many Led Zep singles were there?

Geir Hongro, Friday, 14 December 2007 09:23 (sixteen years ago) link

"Pretty fly for a white guy"'s only redeeming feature is that it's a total nick/cop/tribute to "Part Time Punks" by the Television Personalities.

Mark G, Friday, 14 December 2007 09:23 (sixteen years ago) link

Oh, can anyone clue me in to the significance of the "13" to "31" tatoo?

Mark G, Friday, 14 December 2007 09:24 (sixteen years ago) link

Probably a bit ageist. Anyway, 13 is way young, isn't it?

Geir Hongro, Friday, 14 December 2007 10:17 (sixteen years ago) link

Jesus Wept.

Dom Passantino, Friday, 14 December 2007 10:19 (sixteen years ago) link

Pretty fly for a white guy"'s only redeeming feature is that it's a total nick/cop/tribute to "Part Time Punks" by the Television Personalities.

-- Mark G, Friday, December 14, 2007 9:23 AM (52 minutes ago) Bookmark Link

Oh wow. I never caught this.

Whiney G. Weingarten, Friday, 14 December 2007 10:21 (sixteen years ago) link

"Now he's getting a tattoo/Yeah he's getting ink done"

Infuriating.

Whiney G. Weingarten, Friday, 14 December 2007 10:22 (sixteen years ago) link

Why the hell is this not two separate polls? This is retarded.

It just seemed right somehow. Anyway it seems to be lucrative in terms of discussion. I guess I could have called it "TS: Green Day singles versus Offspring singles in a race for the bottom" but this is nu-ILX, it has to be a poll or no one will write anything.

Doctor Casino, Friday, 14 December 2007 15:48 (sixteen years ago) link

This is still really hard for me to pick just one to vote for, but I'm leaning toward "Why Don't You Get a Job?"

Alex in Baltimore, Friday, 14 December 2007 15:55 (sixteen years ago) link

Not really a tough choice. I'm not a fan of Green Day but nothing they do, other than Good Riddance, actually 'irritates' me (just not my tastes).

But Offspring have several. And the winner is the flavorless attempt at a gimmick song, "Original Prankster".

Bo Jackson Overdrive, Monday, 17 December 2007 19:06 (sixteen years ago) link

"Pretty Fly (For A White Guy)" is still 10x better than anything Green Day has ever done

In what way? Granted I know you didn't say you liked the song necessarily, but Pretty Fly is a gimmick tune that was yes, funny on first listen, irritating by the third, and really has nothing going for it outside of its novelty. The melody is crap.

Green Day, I will admit to not being a fan of...however for the most part they write listenable pop-punk and at the very least when they got semi-gimmicky ("Hitchin' a Ride") it was listenable and entertaining.

Bo Jackson Overdrive, Monday, 17 December 2007 19:09 (sixteen years ago) link

Weingarten picked the exact lyric that made me vote "Pretty Fly...", one of the worst, most insufferable pop songs of all time.

It's always disturbed me that the Epitaph guys were all supposed to be brain surgeons and fucking nuclear physicists and shit and they churned out some of the worst lyrics in all of punk. Dexter Holland makes Tim Armstrong sound like Woody Guthrie

Hard not to cast a vote for "Time Of Your Life," a song that makes me wish storms of raining napalm on high school proms and super bowl halftime shows. But "Pretty Fly" still wins. It's actually kinda hard for me to think of a song I despise more, actually.

Fun: picture Ian "Steve Sanders" Zeiring singing that song.

If Assholes Could Fly This Place Would Be An Airport, Monday, 17 December 2007 23:41 (sixteen years ago) link

well, brain surgeons are known for doing brain surgery, not music. why would you expect their music to be good?

elan, Tuesday, 18 December 2007 00:06 (sixteen years ago) link

like, if my buddy asked "do you want to see the brain surgeon's band tonight or the wino junkie's band tonight," i would not choose brain surgeon. get it?

elan, Tuesday, 18 December 2007 00:07 (sixteen years ago) link

I was just referring to the dumb lyrics.

If Assholes Could Fly This Place Would Be An Airport, Tuesday, 18 December 2007 00:14 (sixteen years ago) link

Pretty Fly was just written mainly to appeal to middle schoolers methinks. and high schoolers--my high school freaking played the song every day on their morning news show.

I'll admit I laughed out loud during the intro to the song the first time I heard it but it didn't take long for me to realize that the chorus was really stupid

Bo Jackson Overdrive, Tuesday, 18 December 2007 00:23 (sixteen years ago) link

Of course it's kind of stupid, some of the rhymes they choose etc. But then they are great because so-called "wiggers" deserve all the mocking and dissing they can get.

Geir Hongro, Tuesday, 18 December 2007 00:27 (sixteen years ago) link

is wiggerdom really that rampant in Norway?

Bo Jackson Overdrive, Tuesday, 18 December 2007 00:31 (sixteen years ago) link

'Time of Your Life' assaulted me again at a crappy Irish bar on Sunday, I suppose I was asking for just by being there, but I've never been subject to bad acoustic Offspring covers in theme bars...

S-, Tuesday, 18 December 2007 01:12 (sixteen years ago) link

But then they are great because so-called "wiggers" deserve all the mocking and dissing they can get.

Why?

da croupier, Tuesday, 18 December 2007 01:13 (sixteen years ago) link

BECAUSE WHITE PEOPEL SHOULD BE LISTENING TO YES!1!11

Bo Jackson Overdrive, Tuesday, 18 December 2007 01:28 (sixteen years ago) link

In what way? Granted I know you didn't say you liked the song necessarily, but Pretty Fly is a gimmick tune that was yes, funny on first listen, irritating by the third, and really has nothing going for it outside of its novelty. The melody is crap.

Green Day, I will admit to not being a fan of...however for the most part they write listenable pop-punk and at the very least when they got semi-gimmicky ("Hitchin' a Ride") it was listenable and entertaining.

The melody's fine IMO. Pretty generic riff, yes, but catchy.

I think Green Day are unlistenable and not entertaining even when they're not being gimmicky. "Basket Case" is the closest thing to a good tune they've released and it's even more cookie-cutter than "Pretty Fly."

Curt1s Stephens, Tuesday, 18 December 2007 01:51 (sixteen years ago) link

I might also add that I heard Weird Al's parody of "Pretty Fly" before the original. I don't really focus on the lyrics.

Curt1s Stephens, Tuesday, 18 December 2007 01:52 (sixteen years ago) link

to each his own I suppose. I wouldn't have even found Pretty Fly entertaining at all if not for the spoof of pop club music at the beginning.

Bo Jackson Overdrive, Tuesday, 18 December 2007 02:04 (sixteen years ago) link

this thread is bonkers

latebloomer, Tuesday, 18 December 2007 02:10 (sixteen years ago) link

bonkers i tell you

latebloomer, Tuesday, 18 December 2007 02:10 (sixteen years ago) link

bonkers!

latebloomer, Tuesday, 18 December 2007 02:10 (sixteen years ago) link

Here comes the rain again falling from the stars

Of all the sins these bands are guilty of, Green Day's poor grasp of meteorology pisses me off the most.

kingkongvsgodzilla, Tuesday, 18 December 2007 02:31 (sixteen years ago) link

It's just insane to me that these bands had so many singles and so much success. Why couldn't it have happened for Bad Religion in their heyday instead? Neither of these bands has written a tune that I find as engaging as anything off Suffer.

Nate Carson, Tuesday, 18 December 2007 03:30 (sixteen years ago) link

there's no "offspring's entire catalogue" option. though green day have made a run at them with recent albums, offspring are the kings of this castle. "self esteem" makes me wanna puke.

pipecock, Tuesday, 18 December 2007 03:51 (sixteen years ago) link

well Nate I do agree Bad Religion destroys them both (I love BR) but they had at least moderate success for a little while. not like either other group, but hey, Graffins words were too big for the middle schoolers!

Bo Jackson Overdrive, Tuesday, 18 December 2007 11:59 (sixteen years ago) link

I like green day. Even that one. But that one I don't really know as well.

I'm voting "Ob la di, ob la da" by The Osspringf.

Mark G, Tuesday, 18 December 2007 12:53 (sixteen years ago) link

BECAUSE WHITE PEOPEL SHOULD BE LISTENING TO YES!1!11

Black people should too.

Geir Hongro, Tuesday, 18 December 2007 12:55 (sixteen years ago) link

Huh, always took it as a little more like "We, the Offspring and our fans (born largely after 1980 and well-accustomed to hip-hop) look down on this character as an outsider faker trying to pull it off." Not really better, mind you, but it never seemed like Holland and co looked down on black culture, just that they thought they were hipper to it than they probably were.

Doctor Casino, Friday, 22 July 2011 14:07 (twelve years ago) link

Then again, it's a reflection of the attitude a lot of rock kids had around that time anyway - people throwing bottles of pish whenever a rapper or pop act dared to grace the stage at Reading etc..

― Post-Manpat Music (dog latin), Friday, July 22, 2011 10:06 AM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

i mean, also, in 1978 with DISCO SUCKS, and 1988 with RAP IS CRAP and 2003 with whatever shitty Victory Records band was trying to TAKE THE ROCK BACK

jay r?tard (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, 22 July 2011 14:16 (twelve years ago) link

I mean, race politics aside, "Pretty Fly" was basically a rant against "posers," which is understandable, but it's not like their own scene wasn't just brimming with posers of all stripes.

Could have done the JNCO-era version of this if they wanted
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_pKkOOQR7_o

jay r?tard (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, 22 July 2011 14:18 (twelve years ago) link

2003 with whatever shitty Victory Records band was trying to TAKE THE ROCK BACK

This was a thing?

Walter Galt, Friday, 22 July 2011 15:32 (twelve years ago) link

it was actually 2005/6, if i remember correctly, but there was a concerted effort by victory's pr people to get hawthorne heights to beat ne-yo to the number one spot.

apichathong song (strongo hulkington's ghost dad), Friday, 22 July 2011 15:37 (twelve years ago) link

yeah, i didn't remember the details, but thats what i was talking abt.

jay r?tard (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, 22 July 2011 15:39 (twelve years ago) link

i can't remember if that was the same year pretty rickey spanked the shins, but it was a good time for pop r&b acts slapping down the dreams of indie bands.

apichathong song (strongo hulkington's ghost dad), Friday, 22 July 2011 15:41 (twelve years ago) link

who the fuck voted basket case

69, Friday, 22 July 2011 17:40 (twelve years ago) link

Boulevard of Broken Dreams

iatee, Friday, 22 July 2011 17:41 (twelve years ago) link

three years pass...

Man, it didn't get any votes or hate above, but man am I glad that "Gone Away" has basically disappeared from the radio landscape etc. If one good thing came out of the demise of alt-rock it was the purging of that particular kind of late-90s gritty loud dirge. In its moment it was played I think once every fifteen to twenty minutes and one could have easily believed that it would never ... go away.

Gorefest Frump (Doctor Casino), Wednesday, 15 July 2015 15:38 (eight years ago) link

I saw a commercial this weekend for some televised concert series which featured the Offspring performing 'Come Out And Play'. And I felt some deep existential empathy for those dudes, still plugging earnestly away twenty years later on a number that probably induces more 'hey, remember this stupid song?'-s among the general populace than it does genuine enjoyment.

Something Called Fudge (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 15 July 2015 15:44 (eight years ago) link

while the ultimate winner would probably be the same this is a poll that would definitely be worth a re-do!

Terrible:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r00ikilDxW4

skip, Wednesday, 15 July 2015 17:04 (eight years ago) link

You can pretty much take your pick from any of the Offspring tracks here for the worst.


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