Creedence Clearwater Revival vs the Grateful Dead vs the Band

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voted the Dead because I've been listening to them nonstop lately.

that's yr opinion some dude, but i would def. rather listen to danko and manuel than weir. not a slight on weir, i just think danko and manuel are amazing. but i like bob -- funny, when i saw him this summer, he was super-gruff, but it kind of suited the songs a little better. "my uncle" was kind of scary/intense coming from this old grizzled dude.

yeah i already got into this and took my lumps for it on a Band thread earlier this year but Danko's voice is nails on chalkboard to me

object to all the "The Band had the best singerS plural" talk, most of the time the non-Helm guys are sub-Wier imo
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I believe the expression is 'I can't even'.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a0WMBYQL14U
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZqbTPVvZ5pA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bL5hO48-pYM
I don't really have the ability to hardman these kind of discussions, but basically Richard Manuel knocks Bob Weir into a cocked hat.

"my uncle" was kind of scary/intense coming from this old grizzled dude.

I like the idea of this better than coming from a young hippie dipshit.

haha exactly.

i like how john phillips couldn't even remember writing "my uncle". he would get royalty checks in the mail and be like "are you sure i wrote that?" and then cash the checks i presume.

How about This Wheel's On Fire: Dylan vs. The Band vs. The Byrds? I would love to hear the Band's arrangment of it with Dylan singing and Clarence White on guitar and the harmony vox from the Byrds version.

(I like Rick Danko a lot too but can accept that his voice isn't everyone's cup of tea and that maybe he's the least technically proficient of the three. Anyone has a go at Manuel and it's fisticuffs though).
xp to myself

I Love Manuel's voice, think he is probably my favorite thing about the Band.

Shit, I first read that as Danko's bass playing somehow being not technically proficient, and I was all, um, no.

Dead and the Band both have this cool guys just playing vibe (as transcendant as both could be) to them. But I thinkForgerty is the only one with a real force of nature quality/intensity to him, as a singer and as a guitarist.

Is it in Levon's book that he likens Manuel's singing to Ray Charles?

probably? i know Manuel idolized Charles.

oh man, some dude describing richard manuel as sub-weir is all-time challops and craziness! such a beautiful, heartbreaking singer, up there w/ gene clark imho.

haha yeah, the more i think about this the more sure i am about voting for the dead, but weir might be my least favorite singer of all the bands even if rush, ween, and primus were included.

oh man, some dude describing richard manuel as sub-weir is all-time challops and craziness! such a beautiful, heartbreaking singer, up there w/ gene clark imho.

― Ward Fowler, Friday, August 10, 2012 12:37 PM (18 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

yeah it's just ridiculous...the aching, impossible melancholy of "Sleeping" vs. a dickhead in shop teacher glasses, daisy dukes and a safari shirt hamming his way through a terrible version of "Good Lovin'"

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vs.
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danko is so weird, like just the way he moves....in the last waltz when he's playing drums on those studio setup things he looks like a crazed beardo drug muppet

richard looks so feral on the cover of the brown album

http://www2.kenyon.edu/Depts/Religion/Fac/Adler/Misc/Band1-Manuel.jpg

he looks like someone who would shoot the president

band had the best albums (well, the first two) and the best singers, creedence had the best singles, dead had the best live shows.

this would seem like the hugest truthbomb to me but I haven't listened to a full creedence album ever so I can't say for sure. the reason I haven't listened is I can groove to a creedence single but the idea of listening to fogerty bellow at me for a whole album is a little too much. IT'S FINE IF YOU LIKE THAT, OK CCR STANS, IT'S JUST NOT FOR ME. "don't you listen to death metal" yes. david vincent is easier to take for 40 minutes than john fogerty. love & respect to his tone & his turnarounds but that singing really does feel like "thank you dad I'll be sure to run through the jungle as soon as I get a chance, yes v good, ok dad thank u." jerry garcia can't sing so good either but he's...~mellow~

lol i'm basically set on ruining every 3 band showdown thread now

a Creedence single nobody who loves soul music even a little should groove to is "I Heard It Through the Grapevine," though. just wretched

which band had the best facial hair?
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thank you for assisting me in my mission, aero (xpost)

a Creedence single nobody who loves soul music even a little should groove to is "I Heard It Through the Grapevine," though. just wretched

it's not soul when CCR does it it's choogle brah

think the band had the best look overall

"choogle" is the sound of a man trying to keep his thoughts to himself when ccr's "grapevine" fouls the air

i have to say i prefer american beauty and workingman's dead to the first two band albums (i am the rare dead fan who doesn't give a shit about live shows, though).

2 of those pics are from the late 60s/early 70s and one is clearly late 70s early 80s

I like Grapevine

aero has never listened to a CCR album lol

think the band had the best look overall

― mizzell, Friday, August 10, 2012 2:12 PM (3 minutes ago) Bookmark

i dunno man, fogerty invented flannel swag

i dig grapevine by CCR, I wish they had stretched out more elsewhere. endless choogle.

^^^^

"choogle" is the sound of a man trying to keep his thoughts to himself when ccr's "grapevine" fouls the air

― steven fucking tyler (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Friday, August 10, 2012 6:13 PM (3 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

dude if you've never listened to an entire CCR album I question your ability to determine what does and what does not constitute a choogle.

Just watch this whole thing:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pAVhKjsImeI

didn't want to bring up aero's day job, but a whole lotta choogle going on here
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8CMKDc8wcCo

Isn't is "Born on the Bayou" that's used in Born on the Fourth of July, the scene where Cruise goes a little nuts in the bar? Great choice.

think the band had the best look overall

― mizzell, Friday, August 10, 2012 2:12 PM (3 minutes ago) Bookmark

i dunno man, fogerty invented flannel swag

― Pollopolicía (some dude), Friday, August 10, 2012 2:16 PM (5 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

that's def true, john had a great look, but tom and stu were pretty goofy looing most of the time. doug clifford had the best beard overall.

Band had the best look although CCR get bonus points for having a drummer who looked like a sheepdog.

man. incredible tremolo and what an insanely powerful drummer. those guitar passes after the chorus, awesome little jazz discrodance....that born on the bayou live would be so powerful if they'd been able to get their grampa away from the microphone but I guess he bought the amps or something

john going for some long feedback before the last verse on that version is pretty great too, it's a stomper.

agree that CCR had the best singles, hands down, but their album run from bayou country through cosmo's factory is pretty tough to beat. think i prefer green river to either of the band's first two.

damnnn that born on the bayou is good. fogerty is such a great guitarist, everything he plays there is so dead on.

I voted CCR, but I kind of agree with aero that Fogerty's voice is a bit much. The best part of Creedence is when they just choogle like motherfuckers.

i love Fogerty's voice!

it's like a cat being squeezed

exactly.