because critics are often oh! so lazy...that album makes for a twisted, convoluted listening and this is not always very appreciated. i just would like more of that mad vibe on cure most recent albums (though "the 13th" was as good as the best Top's bits).
― Marco Damiani (Marco D.), Friday, 6 May 2005 13:19 (nineteen years ago) link
― The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Friday, 6 May 2005 13:35 (nineteen years ago) link
i'd like to throw my hat into the 'alternate curiosity' ring by saying:
* 'M' (1992 small tour) can't recall the date but they only did it on one of the 4 or 5 shows. proper current fans can probably identify it!it was broadcast in europe.
* 'the big hand' (as sorta mentioned upthread) from that late 1990 secret 5 imaginary boys gig at (?) town + country was it?
* 'shake dog shake' version off of THE CURE IN ORANGE
* version of 'the walk' with kazoos off UNPLUGGED
* 1987 era tour version of 'LOVECATS/ARISTOCATS theme'
* 1990 glastonbury version of '10.15'
the temptation is to go 'oh and (song x) from (fave cure gig you ever saw)' but i won't do that. but i'd include something from the pre-WISH 92 liverpool royal court gig if i DID.
― piscesboy, Friday, 6 May 2005 14:00 (nineteen years ago) link
Hey, that's a great song! Flutes!
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 6 May 2005 14:03 (nineteen years ago) link
― The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Friday, 6 May 2005 14:18 (nineteen years ago) link
― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Friday, 6 May 2005 16:16 (nineteen years ago) link
Tracks with a *** are subject to change/revision/haven't made my mind up yet.
I'd like to know if people are fussed about early 3IB tracks like Meathook, I have a live Do The Hansa somewhere too and also Object and Plastic Passion. Also do we want the Jumping/Another Journey segue they used to perfom live?
A.M./In Your House (early version) - Birmingham '79Meathook - Marquee London '79Fire In Cairo - Arnhem '80Primary (yellow version) - Belgium '80I'm Cold - Belgium '80 ***Do You Wanna Touch? - Belgium '80Another Day - Stockholm '8010:15 Saturday Night - Grand Studio Paris '80Charlotte Sometimes (early version) - Sydney '81Forever/All Mine - Sydney '81 ***A Short Term Effect - Glasgow '82Pornography - Paris '82All I have To Do Is Kill Her/Forever/All Mine - Paris '82 ***Lament - Bath '83Birdmad Girl - Hebertengosch '84Wailing Wall - Nanako '84The Empty World - Washington '84Caterpillar - Washington '84Secrets - Washington '84 ***The Hanging Garden - Ludwigshafen '85 (amazing version!)Screw - Ludwigshafen '85Push - Glastonbury '86Sinking - Glastonbury '86A Forest - Glastonbury '86 ***
I'm also sourcing Lovecats/Snakepit/A Japanese Dream/Harold & Joe/The Big Hand/The 13th/The Blood/Walk (unplugged)/Fight and others especially from the last album and the London charity gig from last year with Cult Hero/I Dig You.
Need more Post Wish suggestions.
How arsed are we about Bloodflowers (down Ned!) seeing as we have the Trilogy and all.
― mzui (mzui), Friday, 6 May 2005 16:44 (nineteen years ago) link
This is already looking like one mother of an effort. :-)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 6 May 2005 16:48 (nineteen years ago) link
OH MY GOD YES. The one from the May show in Arnheim is awesome.
― The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Friday, 6 May 2005 16:49 (nineteen years ago) link
― mzui (mzui), Friday, 6 May 2005 16:49 (nineteen years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 6 May 2005 16:55 (nineteen years ago) link
TrapTreasureHome (Did they ever do this live?)Ocean (Ditto?)Spilt MilkThe Loudest Sound39The Last Day Of SummerLost (ESSENTIAL, put it on there maybe seven times if you have to)The PromiseGoing NowhereNeverBefore ThreeAnniversary
(xpost OMG If you can find a droney freaked-out version of "LGTB" I will sell you babies of every hue.)
― The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Friday, 6 May 2005 16:59 (nineteen years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 6 May 2005 17:07 (nineteen years ago) link
― mzui (mzui), Friday, 6 May 2005 18:03 (nineteen years ago) link
Trap - Paris Bercy '96
Treasure - Paris Bercy '96
Home - Never Played Live
Ocean - Ditto
Spilt Milk - Ditto
The Loudest Sound - Mansfield '00/Hamburg '00
39 - Mansfield '00/Hamburg '00
The Last Day Of Summer - Mansfield '00/Hamburg '00
Lost - Everett '04
The Promise - Not Sure
Going Nowhere - Not Sure
Never - Not Sure
Before Three - Not Sure
Anniversary - Not Sure
Will check the above.
― mzui (mzui), Friday, 6 May 2005 21:50 (nineteen years ago) link
An exciting turn of events, a kindly ILX-r is sending me a pre-fm cd copy of one of the early gigs that I'm taking Forever and the early Charlotte Sometimes from (and maybe now another track)
This is very cool and will bring the average quality of the first CD up by another notch.
I'm not sure how many of these to actually produce, I initially thought 5, so-far peeps what have expressed an interest are Ned, Dan, Kit & Baader.
I am willing to do around 10 and really won't have the time to do many more, so please yell if you are interested.
― mzui (mzui), Tuesday, 10 May 2005 09:29 (nineteen years ago) link
― Dr. C (Dr. C), Tuesday, 10 May 2005 09:32 (nineteen years ago) link
5 - Dr C.
― mzui (mzui), Tuesday, 10 May 2005 09:34 (nineteen years ago) link
― Onimo (GerryNemo), Tuesday, 10 May 2005 09:37 (nineteen years ago) link
― mzui (mzui), Tuesday, 10 May 2005 09:49 (nineteen years ago) link
― mzui (mzui), Tuesday, 10 May 2005 09:51 (nineteen years ago) link
Oh please.
― flowersdie (flowersdie), Tuesday, 10 May 2005 10:10 (nineteen years ago) link
― flowersdie (flowersdie), Tuesday, 10 May 2005 10:13 (nineteen years ago) link
― mzui (mzui), Tuesday, 10 May 2005 10:27 (nineteen years ago) link
― Petroski (petroski), Tuesday, 10 May 2005 13:09 (nineteen years ago) link
― The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 10 May 2005 13:12 (nineteen years ago) link
― teeny (teeny), Tuesday, 10 May 2005 14:20 (nineteen years ago) link
― fortunate hazel (f. hazel), Tuesday, 10 May 2005 15:46 (nineteen years ago) link
― That's not cocaine! It's Ian Riese-Moraine! (Eastern Mantra), Tuesday, 10 May 2005 15:47 (nineteen years ago) link
― kyle (akmonday), Tuesday, 10 May 2005 15:48 (nineteen years ago) link
I can only buy these three latest reissues one at a time. I'm buying one of the editions this Friday and I'd like to know which I should acquire first. I do plan to buy them all, though.
Right now I don't own Seventeen Seconds at all. Faith is my favourite LP of theirs and I've got "Carnage Visors" on a CD-R but I'd love to hear "Going Home Time" (since it apparently sounds like Associates) and the live version of "Faith" from the Charlotte Sometimes single. The bonus tracks on Pornography seem the most intriguing to me and I like the LP just slightly less than Faith. So, what do you all recommend I do?
― That's not cocaine! It's Ian Riese-Moraine! (Eastern Mantra), Tuesday, 10 May 2005 15:51 (nineteen years ago) link
― flowersdie (flowersdie), Tuesday, 10 May 2005 16:04 (nineteen years ago) link
― Baaderonixxxorzh (Fabfunk), Tuesday, 10 May 2005 16:10 (nineteen years ago) link
― The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 10 May 2005 16:22 (nineteen years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 10 May 2005 16:31 (nineteen years ago) link
― The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 10 May 2005 16:33 (nineteen years ago) link
The fact that the Pornography remaster sounds that good makes me want to get it first, but I have until Friday to decide.
― That's not cocaine! It's Ian Riese-Moraine! (Eastern Mantra), Tuesday, 10 May 2005 17:11 (nineteen years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 10 May 2005 17:26 (nineteen years ago) link
Anyone else who wants one can maybe contact the others for the moment, I guess thats fair?
Dan, as far as I can make out Home, Ocean & Spilt Milk were never played live.
I've found good versions of Lost, The Promise and Before Three.
I can't find Going Nowhere, Never or Anniversary, do you have good quality non-mp3 sourced versions?
― mzui (mzui), Tuesday, 10 May 2005 22:29 (nineteen years ago) link
― teeny (teeny), Wednesday, 11 May 2005 01:27 (nineteen years ago) link
― fortunate hazel (f. hazel), Wednesday, 11 May 2005 04:01 (nineteen years ago) link
― Dr. C (Dr. C), Wednesday, 11 May 2005 06:09 (nineteen years ago) link
― Baaderonixxxorzh (Fabfunk), Wednesday, 11 May 2005 06:37 (nineteen years ago) link
I need photoshop help I think, well more than help actually, I was going to adapt the Concert/Curiosity artwork but I don't think I've got the skills (or a scanner for that matter), anyone here wishing to tackle the job? I'll print it all.
― mzui (mzui), Wednesday, 11 May 2005 08:49 (nineteen years ago) link
I don't, but I can do some digging to see if I can find anything.
I do have "Why Can't I Be You???/The Lovecats" from a June 9, 1989 show in Torino on CD if you're interested.
― The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 11 May 2005 10:40 (nineteen years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 11 May 2005 11:56 (nineteen years ago) link
― jonviachicago, Wednesday, 11 May 2005 12:37 (nineteen years ago) link
― paul c (paul c), Wednesday, 11 May 2005 12:55 (nineteen years ago) link
I got the Faith re-issue yesterday, and it is marvelous, but I had a few questions about the sound quality. Does anyone else notice a touch of distortion in the original album version of "Doubt"? Just where it gets the loudest, there is a bit of fuzz. Try around 1:32 to 1:40 into it. Is this normal? Was it always like this? (almost a "Siamese Twins" quote there, sorry) I just wanna make sure I don't have a damaged disc. Is this something revealed in the remastering or something always there?
Also, I realize the demos and live tracks are going to be of fairlyrough quality, but does everyone else have a period click that runs consistently through both the demo versions of "Faith" and "Doubt"? And a noticeable hiss throughout the live version of "Faith"?
― matt2 (matt2), Wednesday, 11 May 2005 14:57 (nineteen years ago) link
― matt2 (matt2), Wednesday, 11 May 2005 15:00 (nineteen years ago) link