Roz, weren't you calling Daesung a tragicomic?
yep. He's got that whole sad clown thing going, you know? outside of Bigbang, he's a throwback to the classic Korean entertainer before the idol machinery was created. (There's that joke that BigBang have managed to conquer all demographics, including senior citizens, because of Daesung and his love of trot and musical theatre.) And it's taking really long for him to release a full solo album because I think YG's trying hard to reconcile those two extremes.
And really, it's a crime that he doesn't have one yet, because zomg his voice. When I saw them live, I was just awestruck by how much control he had over it - powerful but never overpowering.
TOP and Dae are my ws/wkiw respectively, but G-Dragon's definitely the one I'm most fascinated by. mainly because he seems the most messed up. Also I want to raid his wardrobe (he looks about my size).
re Monster: GD's said before that it was a conscious attempt on his part to recreate the mood of Haru Haru and Lies. I dunno, it doesn't have the same dramatic effect for me as either of those - the piano is pretty, but it just feels a little overstuffed.
― Roz, Sunday, 16 December 2012 19:37 (eleven years ago) link
yeah I definitely find g-dragon the most interesting
― 乒乓, Sunday, 16 December 2012 19:41 (eleven years ago) link
have been tempted at several points this year to get my hair dyed platinum blonde though like TOP
― 乒乓, Sunday, 16 December 2012 19:47 (eleven years ago) link
Only if you wear it with your princess tiara. XD
― Roz, Sunday, 16 December 2012 19:58 (eleven years ago) link
Okay that Bad Boy acapella is really tripping me out! I never noticed those harmonies in the final choruses before.
― Roz, Sunday, 16 December 2012 20:00 (eleven years ago) link
It's really something, isn't it? This is another trippy one: http://youtu.be/bjLPR4LQE5k
GDragon reminds me of my ex.
― hurricane weather (forapper), Monday, 17 December 2012 04:32 (eleven years ago) link
That was maybe a bit dramatic. My ex has a number of mannerisms that are similar GDragon's, probably because she's a fan. She was also the ego-prop of a narcissistic parent, like GD was (still is?).
― hurricane weather (forapper), Monday, 17 December 2012 23:34 (eleven years ago) link
http://www.guardian.co.uk/music/2012/dec/16/big-bang-review
It's so lazy and condescending that find myself tempted to be one of those righteously aggrieved fans who write long forum screeds about how the reviewer is wrong wrong wrong wrong because the group is so so so so much more. Sheesh.
― hurricane weather (forapper), Tuesday, 18 December 2012 19:03 (eleven years ago) link
oh boy...
― Roz, Tuesday, 18 December 2012 19:15 (eleven years ago) link
actually, hearing that Taeyang performed a CB song did piss me off. seungri though... smh
as for the review, well, it seems as if VIPs have already taken care of that in the comment box.
― Roz, Tuesday, 18 December 2012 19:33 (eleven years ago) link
There's a kind of condescension, or at least ethnocentrism, to that Guardian review: their stage is "world class" because Laurienne Gibson is involved, one wonders whether Seungri even knows what he's saying about Chris Brown and Rihanna, the most notable thing about them is that they are indistinguishable from other teenybopper pop acts (not foreign at all!), etc.
The comparison to a Bieber or a One Direction concert is fair, and appears to have been meant as a compliment. It is misleading, though. The core difference between those acts and BigBang isn't polish, spectacle, passion, or style of music - that's the difference between One Direction and most K-idol acts. What sets BigBang apart is that while they technically occupy the "safe boyfriend" space discussed in e.g. this WSJ article, they are, in fact, not safe at all.
― hurricane weather (forapper), Tuesday, 18 December 2012 23:03 (eleven years ago) link
I forgive Taeyang covering Chris Brown because it's a good and appropriate song. Also because he and Seungri appear to have switched places on GDragon's naughty/nice list and I just feel bad for the dude. Seungri's joke, on the other hand, was in poor taste - but then that's Seungri all over.
― hurricane weather (forapper), Tuesday, 18 December 2012 23:18 (eleven years ago) link
http://vimeo.com/57595669#
Have been expecting this moment (when GD finally declares himself G-O-D) forever. Thought he'd done it at the Mnet Asian Music Awards, but that turned out to be a mishearing(?) of TOP declaring himself T-O-P. But here it is finally.
― hurricane weather (forapper), Friday, 18 January 2013 01:39 (eleven years ago) link
this is one of those moments where I just find him too embarrassing to look at. the edginesssss... it hurts. thank you based GD.
― Roz, Friday, 18 January 2013 04:10 (eleven years ago) link
lol
― hurricane weather (forapper), Friday, 18 January 2013 05:16 (eleven years ago) link
http://25.media.tumblr.com/ede8292c06dc725df7ca3444ab2a190b/tumblr_mh3qyvcTxe1qzjb8ko1_1280.png
man why aren't these songs in my life right now?
― Roz, Thursday, 24 January 2013 05:33 (eleven years ago) link
Damn.
― EZ Snappin, Thursday, 24 January 2013 05:35 (eleven years ago) link
:O
― 乒乓, Thursday, 24 January 2013 13:04 (eleven years ago) link
Yeah, and what ever happened to the tracks Ludacris and Travie McCoy were supposed to have collaborated on???
Not to mention Skrillex/TOP (just kidding).
― hurricane weather (forapper), Thursday, 31 January 2013 22:47 (eleven years ago) link
Maybe the Missy Elliot track, the Ludacris track, and the Travie track will be on GDragon's solo CD (take 2), due out later this year. I mean, we can only hope.
― hurricane weather (forapper), Thursday, 31 January 2013 22:48 (eleven years ago) link
i'm kind of worried that the reason the track's been held back is that maybe it's... not very good?
― bantz a make her dance (c sharp major), Friday, 1 February 2013 11:22 (eleven years ago) link
that's one possibility.
actually, I think it might be Teddy. There's been rumours that he's suffering from an extended creative block or something - he's also apparently the reason 2NE1 hasn't had anything new released in over a year, apart from "I Love You". :/ as good as GD is with melodies and lyrics, he can't handle the actual production side on his own.
― Roz, Friday, 1 February 2013 14:09 (eleven years ago) link
LEDApple 'Love Song' (cover). It's honestly... way better than the original, ha ha. Well, they are a rock band.
And their Mr. Taxi is great and hilarious as well.
― hurricane weather (forapper), Tuesday, 5 February 2013 05:32 (eleven years ago) link
Harlem Shake - GDragon Edition
And Big Bang make cameos - as Teddy bears! - in labelmate Lee Hi's It's Over.
A friend says that because the song is about dumping a bad boy, they are there to represent all Bad Boys everywhere. Let's go with that interpretation (please).
― hurricane weather (forapper), Friday, 8 March 2013 10:03 (eleven years ago) link
Seo Hyun Seung, YG's in-house video director, is seriously my favourite person ever.
actually, considering the attention given to K-pop videos, I'm surprised there doesn't seem to be a lot of talk about directors in general - really think some of them deserve to have a Directors' Collection series like the ones they used to compile for guys like Michel Gondry and Spike Jonze.
― Roz, Friday, 8 March 2013 11:14 (eleven years ago) link
I'd buy Hwang SooAh's. Doesn't she direct like 90% of Loen's music videos? Including all those famous ones by Brown Eyed Girls.
― hurricane weather (forapper), Friday, 8 March 2013 12:32 (eleven years ago) link
Oh yeah, she's great. She directed Ga-In's "Bloom" as well, one of my favourite videos ever, because of how matter-of-fact it is about sex/masturbation/female sexuality.
― Roz, Friday, 8 March 2013 13:07 (eleven years ago) link
Don't know for sure if Seo directed that Lee Hi MV but I wouldn't be surprised if he did - it's kind of messed up! Typical of YG videos generally of course but still, pretty sinister for something that's supposed to be really cute and fluffy.
I mean, if the blue bears are really supposed to represent bad boys/the boys of BigBang, and the other pink animals are supposed to represent women/Hi, you've got:
- the narcissistic bear reading about himself in Complex magazine (which helpfully says Bad Boy on the cover)- the puppeteer bear- the bear who's carrying Hi, drops her then goes ¯\(º_o)/¯ "What?"- the bear riding and spanking a pink rocking horse (holy shit.) (also, this is definitely Seungri right? Haha.)- the playboy/two-timing bear - in one scene, he's surrounded by a gazillion pink animals, in another he's cuddling a pink bunny and a pink bear at the same time - the violent bear who knocks over and kicks her shopping cart- the addict bear with candy all over his mouth- and of course, the obvious G-Dragon and Taeyang bears
― Roz, Friday, 8 March 2013 13:14 (eleven years ago) link
http://omonatheydidnt.livejournal.com/10769135.html?thread=1071842543#t1071842543
Where I steal from Roz and go into exhaustive psychoanalytic detail on the BigBang bears.
For the record, I find the Taeyang bear to be the most hilarious one.
― hurricane weather (forapper), Saturday, 9 March 2013 05:17 (eleven years ago) link
my favorite is jelly bear
― 乒乓, Saturday, 9 March 2013 14:21 (eleven years ago) link
kinda feel sorry for Lee Hi that that video tells you so much more about BigBang than about her, esp since she already tends to come across as a bit of a blank, personality-wise.
― Roz, Saturday, 9 March 2013 17:25 (eleven years ago) link
Yeah, and she is being aged backwards, too: from cute teen who wants to be adult and sexy, to cute teen in baby-doll clothes.
She's the baby of the company, and she is cute, but at the same time it's gonna be hard to grow up with that image. Although if she keeps hanging out with those crazy people at YG, "old beyond her years" will soon become a reality - matching her voice.
― hurricane weather (forapper), Saturday, 9 March 2013 22:27 (eleven years ago) link
xp GDradgon goes trap:
https://soundcloud.com/reefanee/g-dragon-michigo-go
― hurricane weather (forapper), Monday, 1 April 2013 15:49 (eleven years ago) link
as pointed out on Omona... "MichiGO" seems like it was ahem, "inspired" by:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cRQifBeJtKo
He loves @badgalriri, that's his fuckin' problem
― Roz, Tuesday, 2 April 2013 07:15 (eleven years ago) link
Ha!
― hurricane weather (forapper), Wednesday, 3 April 2013 08:14 (eleven years ago) link
crossposting from k-pop 2013 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mrwnL62HObI
― 乒乓, Friday, 19 April 2013 16:04 (eleven years ago) link
not sure what to make of the A$$ referencing
― 乒乓, Friday, 19 April 2013 16:24 (eleven years ago) link
I see a Harlem Shake reference, a split between "nerd GD" and "maniac GD", and a looooot of kink either way.
And now I wonder whether he or was Zion.T's Babay.
― hurricane weather (forapper), Friday, 19 April 2013 18:44 (eleven years ago) link
Commenters on omona point out that there's a red shoes-ish storyline to the MV, along with lots of imagery suggesting that dude has a huge dick.
― hurricane weather (forapper), Saturday, 20 April 2013 01:23 (eleven years ago) link
you mean his big shoes? lol
― 乒乓, Saturday, 20 April 2013 01:23 (eleven years ago) link
big feet
Big feet + that giant pink bouncy thing from the beginning of the MV, yeah.
― hurricane weather (forapper), Saturday, 20 April 2013 02:16 (eleven years ago) link
lol GD is pretty much Nicki Minaj? Increasingly outlandish hair and outfits, multiple personalities, healthy dose of gender-play, ability to appeal to multiple fanbases at once...
― Roz, Sunday, 21 April 2013 13:38 (eleven years ago) link
<img src="http://25.media.tumblr.com/fe15c5523b4be0bc66ce37584f27e76b/tumblr_mq0qye6cqe1qzjb8ko1_500.jpg">
Relevant to thread title :)
― hurricane weather (forapper), Tuesday, 16 July 2013 08:12 (ten years ago) link
Whoops, html.
http://25.media.tumblr.com/fe15c5523b4be0bc66ce37584f27e76b/tumblr_mq0qye6cqe1qzjb8ko1_500.jpg
― hurricane weather (forapper), Tuesday, 16 July 2013 08:13 (ten years ago) link
Nice, very Andrej Pejic of him. All three covers are pretty great.
Not necessarily in this particular shoot, but it's always fascinating to watch him navigate between super-feminine/alpha-male extremes.
― Roz, Wednesday, 17 July 2013 13:01 (ten years ago) link
GD's PR people working overtime on damage control:
http://omonatheydidnt.livejournal.com/11549876.html
― hurricane weather (forapper), Friday, 2 August 2013 09:24 (ten years ago) link
Can't really defend this one, it's pretty bad.
http://oi44.tinypic.com/2hgu175.jpg
It's not even good trolling: at least when Big Bang dressed as Bloods made it onto the world(starhiphop) radar, there was a pretty good song to go along with the viral outrage. This time the backlash against - not even cultural appropriation - but straight-up racist caricature, only spreads an unattractive picture of GD around.
And by unattractive I mean unattractive on the inside, of course.
― hurricane weather (forapper), Friday, 2 August 2013 09:37 (ten years ago) link
Yeah he doesn't deserve a pass on this one (or on the other examples either tbh) and it's way past time that he/YGE got called out on it. Like it's impossible for them not to know that this stuff upsets people, given that the language barrier isn't exactly an obstacle for YG artists as it might be for other K-pop companies.
― Roz, Friday, 2 August 2013 15:31 (ten years ago) link
Yup.
Though I am doing some self-reflecting now, 'cause it's been obvious since forever that GDragon enjoys crossing lines and upsetting people. When the lines he crosses are lines I don't agree with, I generally cheer - like gender lines or restrictions on what idols are "allowed" to say on television, and so on.
Obviously, GD should continue to cross the lines I don't agree with, but not cross the lines I do agree with.
When I say I'm self-reflecting I mean that in a joking way, BTW, honestly I haven't been too invested in any of this for a while now. Losing your audience, dude(tte)!
― hurricane weather (forapper), Saturday, 3 August 2013 07:49 (ten years ago) link
MIA is much more in her element here, but it's pretty cool that GD raps a lot of this in Korean
― hurricane weather (forapper), Saturday, 27 February 2016 00:40 (eight years ago) link
MORE rappers freestyling over Big Bang karaoke beats, please:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h0MWCxgFW9w
― hurricane weather (forapper), Tuesday, 9 August 2016 02:58 (seven years ago) link
He's a legit fan too, takes it all the way back to La La La.
― hurricane weather (forapper), Tuesday, 9 August 2016 02:59 (seven years ago) link
nooooooo :(:(
http://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/lifestyle/bigbang-s-t-o-p-hospitalised-for-suspected-drug-overdose-report-8922202
― Roz, Tuesday, 6 June 2017 15:49 (seven years ago) link
If any of them were going to end up (publicly) in the ICU, it was going to be TOP :(
Only three months into his service though, that's rough. I wonder if he'll wind up with a medical exemption like Swings.
― hurricane weather (forapper), Sunday, 11 June 2017 18:30 (six years ago) link
Anyway I'm just glad TOP is still with us, for now.
RIP Big Bang / OT5.
Seungri sacrificing himself for the sake of the group as a result of his own bad behaviour seems extremely... in character.
https://www.soompi.com/article/1309402wpp/breaking-seungri-announces-retirement-from-the-entertainment-industry
― Roz, Monday, 11 March 2019 09:53 (five years ago) link
And I thought it was just about being caught smoking a joint again or something:https://www.cnn.com/2019/03/14/entertainment/jung-filming-sex-kpop-scandal-intl/index.html
― breastcrawl, Thursday, 14 March 2019 14:55 (five years ago) link
Yeah. Seungri has always been a douche-y frat boy so the chatroom stuff, while gross, was not particularly surprising. It's likely not even the only one among Korean celebrity circles.
The pimping/sex trafficking allegations though... ugh.
― Roz, Thursday, 14 March 2019 15:46 (five years ago) link