has Whiney heard this song yet? I think he'd like it
― ThePartyHater (some dude), Wednesday, 9 January 2013 15:39 (eleven years ago) link
omg i never knew about wicked wisdom
― have a sandwich or ice cream sandwich (Jordan), Wednesday, 9 January 2013 15:39 (eleven years ago) link
this is p bad
― goole, Wednesday, 9 January 2013 15:40 (eleven years ago) link
i love the fact that her deep and romantic stage name is basically DEAD TREE
― lex pretend, Wednesday, 9 January 2013 15:42 (eleven years ago) link
song sounds great imo
― ThePartyHater (some dude), Wednesday, 9 January 2013 15:42 (eleven years ago) link
and this is exactly the sort of thing i'm used to reading excited ILM threads about and then thinking it sounds like crap
― ThePartyHater (some dude), Wednesday, 9 January 2013 15:43 (eleven years ago) link
In 2005, Sharon Osbourne went to see Wicked Wisdom perform at a small night club in Los Angeles, California. She said, "I was blown away. When you see and hear Jada with her band it's apparent that she has nothing but love and respect for this genre of music."[2] In May 2005 organizers announced Wicked Wisdom would perform on the second stage of 2005's Ozzfest.[4] Fans of the festival were outraged, claiming the band did not have the credibility to perform at the music festival.
― congratulations (n/a), Wednesday, 9 January 2013 15:47 (eleven years ago) link
I like this a lot, actually. I want to give her a hug and take her out for ice cream after hearing it, but I like the song.
― carl agatha, Wednesday, 9 January 2013 15:50 (eleven years ago) link
Wicked Wisdom was a perfectly fine band
― so far, so good... solange! (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, 9 January 2013 15:51 (eleven years ago) link
The lyrics are very Evanescence.
― Solange and thanks for all the fish (Nicole), Wednesday, 9 January 2013 15:51 (eleven years ago) link
She's 12, so that seems just right.
― carl agatha, Wednesday, 9 January 2013 16:00 (eleven years ago) link
i love this, although i have to say: the fact that this was written by a 12-year-old is a hell of a metacommentary on extended adolescence in american culture (totally counting myself here)
― maura, Wednesday, 9 January 2013 16:03 (eleven years ago) link
Yeah, I don't want to knock this too much seeing as she's only 12, and it's okay for a 12 year-old. But... that's about as far as you can go with this, it's pretty meh.
(Don't know if this is a crucial piece of information but I loved 'Whip My Hair'.)
― emil.y, Wednesday, 9 January 2013 16:06 (eleven years ago) link
― maura, Wednesday, January 9, 2013 10:03 AM (3 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
how is 12 "extended adolescence"? a 12-year-old is an adolescent
― congratulations (n/a), Wednesday, 9 January 2013 16:08 (eleven years ago) link
Tell that to the judge.
― Matt DC, Wednesday, 9 January 2013 16:09 (eleven years ago) link
I assumed Maura's point was to do with the amount of songs written by adults that take the same tone?
― Heterocyclic ring ring (LocalGarda), Wednesday, 9 January 2013 16:15 (eleven years ago) link
ha something just got deleted
― congratulations (n/a), Wednesday, 9 January 2013 16:17 (eleven years ago) link
i remember what it was, and who posted it.
― Heterocyclic ring ring (LocalGarda), Wednesday, 9 January 2013 16:18 (eleven years ago) link
i won't be silenced.
Sorry NA I felt bad because that was mean.
― Matt DC, Wednesday, 9 January 2013 16:18 (eleven years ago) link
i didn't take it as mean, just a joke, so it's cool. anyways i just didn't understand maura's point but what localgarda says makes sense and i don't know what i'm doing posting in this thread anyways.
― congratulations (n/a), Wednesday, 9 January 2013 16:19 (eleven years ago) link
I sort of felt the point could just as easily go the other way too.
― Heterocyclic ring ring (LocalGarda), Wednesday, 9 January 2013 16:23 (eleven years ago) link
i would tie it more to people trying to write these kinds of songs that are intentionally vague and so easily universalized before calling it a metacommentary on extended adolescence but that's just me
― congratulations (n/a), Wednesday, 9 January 2013 16:25 (eleven years ago) link
There should be a video where a sad Will Smith drops rose petals into the river, and then pushes a volume of Tennyson off on a raft surrounded by candles.
― Matt DC, Wednesday, 9 January 2013 16:25 (eleven years ago) link
but intentional vagueness is a sign of immaturity
― maura, Wednesday, 9 January 2013 16:29 (eleven years ago) link
how so
― congratulations (n/a), Wednesday, 9 January 2013 16:31 (eleven years ago) link
How not?
― future kendricks (longneck), Wednesday, 9 January 2013 16:40 (eleven years ago) link
It's what people who don't understand poetry write when they think they're writing poetry.
― future kendricks (longneck), Wednesday, 9 January 2013 16:41 (eleven years ago) link
no, it's a tool/technique. it's something that can be used immaturely or maturely, but not something that is itself mature or immature.
― congratulations (n/a), Wednesday, 9 January 2013 16:42 (eleven years ago) link
intentional vagueness? Why on earth would you want to be intentionally vague? Who would want a vague tool?
― future kendricks (longneck), Wednesday, 9 January 2013 16:45 (eleven years ago) link
Who wants to read/listen to intentional vagueness? If you know something you had better tell it to me. Stop being vague intentionally.
― future kendricks (longneck), Wednesday, 9 January 2013 16:46 (eleven years ago) link
how do u feel about ambiguity
― mookieproof, Wednesday, 9 January 2013 16:48 (eleven years ago) link
Ambiguity is great but it's not vagueness and it's not really a tool or a technique. It's more like trying to say something precisely and recognizing complexity without reducing it to an either/or.
― future kendricks (longneck), Wednesday, 9 January 2013 16:53 (eleven years ago) link
Willow going down the same path as her mother is a lot more preferable to Willow going down the same path as her brother:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PFOBd0TWgws
― MarkoP, Wednesday, 9 January 2013 16:57 (eleven years ago) link
http://i.imgur.com/sFkFz.jpg
― 乒乓, Wednesday, 9 January 2013 22:51 (eleven years ago) link
lol
― trad goon (Spottie_Ottie_Dope), Wednesday, 9 January 2013 22:52 (eleven years ago) link
Not as good as my early teen German army jacket upon the back of which I lovingly transcribed the lyrics to 'Transmission' by Joy Division. Pah!
― emil.y, Wednesday, 9 January 2013 22:55 (eleven years ago) link
Awwww bless her heart.
― carl agatha, Wednesday, 9 January 2013 23:13 (eleven years ago) link
i kept expecting them to do something with that radiohead sample but man
― Andrew WKRP (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 9 January 2013 23:18 (eleven years ago) link
Did anyone manage to get an mp3 of this? Warner Chappell keeps taking it down.
― Turangalila, Friday, 11 January 2013 17:02 (eleven years ago) link
ya I just tried to go to the Soundcloud page & got 404'd... dang
― fiscal cliff racer (bernard snowy), Friday, 11 January 2013 20:51 (eleven years ago) link
As a francophone I feel I have to point out it's actually a saule *pleureur* not pleurant.
― LeRooLeRoo, Friday, 11 January 2013 22:03 (eleven years ago) link
you really don't get more quintessentially teenage than gothy puns on your own name in bad french
― lex pretend, Saturday, 12 January 2013 02:58 (eleven years ago) link
Came here on lex's recommendation but I can't access the soundcloud link - is there another link?
― besides Sunny Real Estate (dog latin), Friday, 25 January 2013 12:10 (eleven years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7TytCZo4VPk
― lex pretend, Friday, 25 January 2013 12:11 (eleven years ago) link
I love how the whole aesthetic is such Lex catnip that he was even able to take a peverse glee in the Radiohead sample.
― Matt DC, Friday, 25 January 2013 12:13 (eleven years ago) link
Holy sh-- well, that's something else. Some pretty complex stuff goin on there, musically and emotionally, especially let alone for a 12 (!) yr old. I thought this was going to be the codex cover I'd heard speak of, but obv this is another track. If this is goth (and yeah, inject me with darkness qualifies it), it's the mopier teenage angst side of goth as opposed to the horrorshow type of goth I was alluding to on the EOY thread, but I'm glad you showed me this Lex.
― besides Sunny Real Estate (dog latin), Friday, 25 January 2013 12:21 (eleven years ago) link
Oh wait, no, it is Codex! Goes to show how many times I've made it all the way through King Of Limbs. Wait, isn't King Of Limbs also a reference to a tree?
― besides Sunny Real Estate (dog latin), Friday, 25 January 2013 12:23 (eleven years ago) link
did we talk about 'kite' yet
― attempt to look intentionally nerdy, awkward or (thomp), Friday, 25 January 2013 12:31 (eleven years ago) link
http://25.media.tumblr.com/458aa02d758422d37d008e9463d5cf98/tumblr_mmib1yC8Er1qc2vjzo1_500.jpg
― siouxsan sarandon (Stevie D(eux)), Thursday, 9 May 2013 04:06 (eleven years ago) link
She looks just like him!
I like that song.
― from batman to balloon dog (carl agatha), Friday, 8 May 2015 17:54 (nine years ago) link
This reminds me of Me Phi Mi, like dayglo afrofuturism.
― bamcquern, Friday, 8 May 2015 19:37 (nine years ago) link
Into this but I must register my disapproval of her unnecessary double trad grip snare drum miming.
― lil urbane (Jordan), Saturday, 9 May 2015 00:51 (nine years ago) link
erm i just saw this and wtf
it seemed like it was going to be good for the first 30 seconds but i don't like it
― dyl, Sunday, 10 May 2015 04:46 (nine years ago) link
yeah that went : | pretty quick, but at the end of the day i love it for being so aggressively weird/dumb
― soyrev, Sunday, 10 May 2015 05:09 (nine years ago) link
Into this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sSVdGh3iylc
― Johnny Fever, Friday, 25 September 2015 01:53 (eight years ago) link
this album is sort of terrible :////
― cher guevara (lex pretend), Friday, 11 December 2015 18:14 (eight years ago) link
there's a surprise
― Οὖτις, Friday, 11 December 2015 18:19 (eight years ago) link
it is for me! 'why don't you cry' and 'F Q-C #7' are both pretty great. I'll have to try myself.
― Does that make you mutter, under your breath, “Damn”? (forksclovetofu), Friday, 11 December 2015 18:31 (eight years ago) link
ok this album is bizarre
― HYPERLINK TO RAP GENIUS (BradNelson), Wednesday, 16 December 2015 19:30 (eight years ago) link
it tries very hard to give that impression, and it's definitely not boring, but i cringed so much during it. (her delivery is especially try-hard)
― cher guevara (lex pretend), Wednesday, 16 December 2015 19:45 (eight years ago) link
mostly it made me think about how very easy it is to give the impression of being a strange weirdo, and how easy it is to conflate that with seeming like a genius auteur
― cher guevara (lex pretend), Wednesday, 16 December 2015 19:46 (eight years ago) link
there's something very honestly 15-year-old about the album that i appreciate. she's definitely had a singular existence, yet the lyrical themes are echoed by my students (with different particulars obviously), and the music's veering between grinding and soothing is very adolescent-brain.
― maura, Wednesday, 16 December 2015 19:55 (eight years ago) link
was gonna say that i would appreciate "try hard" from willow right now, she really SHOULD be in that state
― Does that make you mutter, under your breath, “Damn”? (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 16 December 2015 20:26 (eight years ago) link
right, i appreciate it as an artefact of a teenage mind with a lot of ideas, but i don't think they work as music or songs much. wouldn't be surprised if she works out how to do that in the future, this feels very straight-from-mind-to-record without much editing process
― cher guevara (lex pretend), Wednesday, 16 December 2015 20:30 (eight years ago) link
okay going in
― Does that make you mutter, under your breath, “Damn”? (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 16 December 2015 20:34 (eight years ago) link
yeah, this is a mess. but an endearing mess! not so much so that I want to listen to it again tho'.
― Does that make you mutter, under your breath, “Damn”? (forksclovetofu), Friday, 18 December 2015 15:09 (eight years ago) link
i guess this new song is actually old but i hope she makes an entire album that sounds like baduizm!! http://www.thefader.com/2016/02/22/willow-smith-shares-jimi
― J0rdan S., Monday, 22 February 2016 15:30 (eight years ago) link
New song https://soundcloud.com/dhatu/twentyfortyeight20-prod-michael-cera
― Le Bateau Ivre, Thursday, 19 May 2016 10:15 (eight years ago) link
So, The 1st, then. Far less WTF than the last album but still pretty singular. "And Contentment" is the pick of the bunch for me.
― Jeff W, Tuesday, 7 November 2017 21:14 (six years ago) link