Pink Floyd vs Radiohead

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Putting aside who gives a good goddamn whether music is "instinctual" or not, I don't see how the most casual of listens to TDSOTM reveals a record made by people who threw ideas against the wall to see what would stick.

the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 23 January 2013 23:41 (eleven years ago) link

it's just, how do you call a band that released multiple overaching thematic concept albums "instinctual"

Bel-Air the Fresh Prince, sitting in a chair (DJP), Wednesday, 23 January 2013 23:42 (eleven years ago) link

they just hit record and jammed that DSOTM out dude!

tylerw, Wednesday, 23 January 2013 23:43 (eleven years ago) link

hell A Momentary Lapse of Reason, despite sounding like its title, unfolds like they worried every solo to death.

the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 23 January 2013 23:44 (eleven years ago) link

they threw 10 albums at The Wall, i guess you could say

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 23 January 2013 23:45 (eleven years ago) link

and they missed imago, apparently

the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 23 January 2013 23:46 (eleven years ago) link

I actually think this has some really good background info on how DSotM was created, especially re the making of "Money", despite being a VH1 special: http://youtu.be/GLqkwGfwajs

EveningStar (Sund4r), Wednesday, 23 January 2013 23:46 (eleven years ago) link

david gilmour vocoder segments were a real neat idea then

floyd had less quality-control imo, but their best moments were wide-eyed psych genius. sorry for treading on y'all toes. out

imago, Wednesday, 23 January 2013 23:46 (eleven years ago) link

iatee the wall is a double album about the soullessness of exurban living don't you see

mookieproof, Wednesday, 23 January 2013 23:47 (eleven years ago) link

http://www.maxon.net/uploads/pics/1_13.jpg

"We gotta gig tonight Roger?"

"Yeah, I guess, I dunno, you lads turn up at the club around 8, we'll write up a set list and wing it"

My Lol's Beyond (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 23 January 2013 23:48 (eleven years ago) link

loool

mookieproof, Wednesday, 23 January 2013 23:49 (eleven years ago) link

haha

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 23 January 2013 23:49 (eleven years ago) link

Number of Radiohead recordings I own = 1 (no points for guessing it's "Creep")
Number of Floyd recordings I own = ALL THE PINK FLOYDS

Wait, I think I have an mp3 of "Anyone Can Play Guitar" on my hard drive somewhere.

Gollum: "Hot, Ready and Smeagol!" (Phil D.), Wednesday, 23 January 2013 23:51 (eleven years ago) link

oh ffs - 'more intelligence' referred to content, not form - pf were damn smart at being a massive arena band and coming up with album concepts

out for good now pax

imago, Wednesday, 23 January 2013 23:52 (eleven years ago) link

I actually think this has some really good background info on how DSotM was created, especially re the making of "Money", despite being a VH1 special: http://youtu.be/GLqkwGfwajs

This was NOT the clip I wanted, ha! This is the clip about "Money" that I actually meant to praise!:

http://www.boreme.com/posting.php?id=23813

EveningStar (Sund4r), Wednesday, 23 January 2013 23:55 (eleven years ago) link

man everyone likes to claim they were the first ever to record/play with a tape loop don't they

Welcome to my world of proses (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 24 January 2013 00:00 (eleven years ago) link

:( now I feel kinda mean (re imago)

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 24 January 2013 00:01 (eleven years ago) link

oh, back for one last thing -

radiohead would never have had the lack of self-consciousness to knock out something so stupidly brilliant as 'corporal clegg' or 'the trial'

hope this clarifies my position re: adoring a lot of Floyd but reckoning them to have a looser grasp on their art (especially as art) than 'everything in its right place' radiohead

imago, Thursday, 24 January 2013 00:09 (eleven years ago) link

we get it, you think Radiohead is really smart. for some reason.

Welcome to my world of proses (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 24 January 2013 00:12 (eleven years ago) link

which bangles song would pink floyd have lifted?

how's life, Thursday, 24 January 2013 00:29 (eleven years ago) link

"In Your Room" of course.

the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 24 January 2013 00:31 (eleven years ago) link

The only time Radiohead ever sounded anything LIKE Pink Floyd to me was on 'Subterranean Homesick Alien'... and possibly 'How To Disappear Completely', but that's about it.

Lucky sounds very PFish to me - guitar solo even has a bit of Gilmour about it.

B-Boy Bualadh Bos (ecuador_with_a_c), Thursday, 24 January 2013 01:25 (eleven years ago) link

thank fuck somebody has finalty had the chesgtnitys tp answer this important questioms

you jelly like bitter lemon (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 24 January 2013 02:03 (eleven years ago) link

sup nv

mookieproof, Thursday, 24 January 2013 02:05 (eleven years ago) link

as much as I love Barrett-era Floyd Radiohead have more albums I'm going to listen to again than Pink Floyd do so it's Radiohead for me

available for sporting events (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Thursday, 24 January 2013 02:22 (eleven years ago) link

what if Yorke had gone AWOL after The Bends and every Radiohead album after that sounded like the Phil Selway solo joint

Doctor No Cassie (some dude), Thursday, 24 January 2013 02:25 (eleven years ago) link

"Lucky" is def the song i think of when i hear RH/Floyd comparisons

Doctor No Cassie (some dude), Thursday, 24 January 2013 02:26 (eleven years ago) link

now considering what Barret-era Floyd Radiohead would sound like

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 24 January 2013 02:48 (eleven years ago) link

also aero ;_;

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 24 January 2013 02:48 (eleven years ago) link

Oh wait "High and Dry" is also a good song. And that one with the video where all the people lay down in the street. I think that's it, though.

Gollum: "Hot, Ready and Smeagol!" (Phil D.), Thursday, 24 January 2013 02:51 (eleven years ago) link

The Bends kinda sounds like "Fearless" from Meddle.

lazyitis, Thursday, 24 January 2013 04:29 (eleven years ago) link

Do you mean the song or the album? I think the song "The Bends" sounds like a lot of anthemic rock music from the 20 years that precede it and really has more in common with other British rock of the same time than it does with "Fearless". It would never occur to me to compare it to "Fearless" instead of, say, "Live Forever" by Oasis. I can see it a little with "Lucky" but really, "How to Disappear Completely" is the only song that made me think of Pink Floyd in the way that, say, the White Stripes make me think of Zeppelin or the Stones at times.

EveningStar (Sund4r), Thursday, 24 January 2013 04:44 (eleven years ago) link

Ha, unless you were being sarcastic and I missed it.

EveningStar (Sund4r), Thursday, 24 January 2013 04:50 (eleven years ago) link

GO HOME BONO

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 24 January 2013 05:44 (eleven years ago) link

for the love of god just stay the fuck out of this for once bono

Z S, Thursday, 24 January 2013 05:45 (eleven years ago) link

Well, yeah, on the first couple of albums, the U2 influence is far more apparent to me than the Pink Floyd influence.

xpos

EveningStar (Sund4r), Thursday, 24 January 2013 05:45 (eleven years ago) link

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EveningStar (Sund4r), Thursday, 24 January 2013 05:45 (eleven years ago) link

HFS at that Radiohead album cover pict with the dudes

Elvis Telecom, Thursday, 24 January 2013 06:04 (eleven years ago) link

someone plz sb Bono

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 24 January 2013 06:07 (eleven years ago) link

I hated HATED floyd in the '80s or whenever my human memories started kicking in, and now I quite like a few albums (dsotm has only just grown on me this week, after decades of trying). based on that ridiculously long slow burn, I'm taking floyd over radiohead.

resultant curry paste (Autumn Almanac), Thursday, 24 January 2013 06:56 (eleven years ago) link

btw I'm convinced the fact that a shitty local radio station played floyd NON STOP for something like 10 years had something to do with my earlier hatred. it's near impossible to enjoy anything when it's rammed down your throat to that degree.

resultant curry paste (Autumn Almanac), Thursday, 24 January 2013 06:58 (eleven years ago) link

I've got no beef with radiohead, but pink floyd rules, so this isn't really any kind of contest at all.

"Turkey In The Straw" coming from someplace in the clouds (Sparkle Motion), Thursday, 24 January 2013 07:04 (eleven years ago) link

huh, Dark Side vs OKC is basically Clash of the Serious Bullshit Titans im humble o, but AA's testimony has made me rethink. fwiw, the instrumental tracks + Us and Them are p much amongst the scarce redeemable tracks from post-Meddle Floyd.

flag posts in the dust (Drugs A. Money), Thursday, 24 January 2013 07:17 (eleven years ago) link

Yeah if you can get past the popular radio hits (which never bothered me but I always hear that they turned loads of ppl off) -- then definitely, DEF dig well back in the catalog for u will be pleasantly surprised.
IMO.

Or turned off completely for life. Either way. A worthwhile exercise.

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 24 January 2013 07:32 (eleven years ago) link

Honestly I kind of had a similar but opposite experience with Radiohead -- had a carpool friend who listened to Kid A on every car trip I swear for at least a month. I will always associate getting in his car in the morning with the opening drones of 'Everything In Its Right Place'.

I couldn't listen to Radiohead for years after that. But eventually calmed down to where I can now hear Kid A and not get involuntary facial twitches

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 24 January 2013 07:34 (eleven years ago) link

Can't wait for The Prodigy vs Skrillex poll.

Moka, Thursday, 24 January 2013 07:58 (eleven years ago) link

Well Radiohead are overrated, nowhere near as good as some people say, they blatantly steal other people's ideas and profit off them, Thom Yorker is 40% objectionable, but a lot of their music is very good and I enjoy it.

Pink Floyd, though, are actively fucking horrible and nasty and abysmal, so there you go.

i would never inflict the process of making a sandwich on myself (Scik Mouthy), Thursday, 24 January 2013 07:59 (eleven years ago) link

Radiohead. They've never been my Favourite Band Ever but I was 14 when The Bends came out and since then they've always been there, putting out records that range from 'pretty good' to 'excellent'. Pink Floyd's best stuff is great too but they don't mean anywhere near as much to me as a band. Looking at it another way, I don't love any Floyd album as mucn as OK Computer or In Rainbows and Radiohead have never released anything as awful as The Final Cut.

Gavin, Leeds, Thursday, 24 January 2013 09:38 (eleven years ago) link


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