I dunno maybe you guys should try listening to some metal or sumthin
― unprepared guitar (Edward III), Friday, 1 February 2013 13:56 (eleven years ago) link
Maybe one day I will give metal a go when I'm older
― pfunkboy (Algerian Goalkeeper), Friday, 1 February 2013 13:57 (eleven years ago) link
Bluenote = a UMG label
― hibernaculum (Jon Lewis), Friday, 1 February 2013 16:26 (eleven years ago) link
Aero there's still shit tons of vintage live opera labels on there. And EMI/Virgin and Warner and Sony/RCA.
― hibernaculum (Jon Lewis), Friday, 1 February 2013 16:29 (eleven years ago) link
anybody noticed sonic probs on watermarked promos? I haven't yet.
― dow, Friday, 1 February 2013 16:30 (eleven years ago) link
if only anyone on this message board wrote for any widely-trafficked music or political websites or print magazines
sound the alarm you guys, this is vandalism
― Milton Parker, Thursday, January 31, 2013 8:54 PM (Yesterday)
― Z S, Friday, 1 February 2013 16:33 (eleven years ago) link
this post will be underappreciated
Anyway, yeah, this is horrific and this should be a much, much larger story than it is.
― HAPPY BDAY TOOTS (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 1 February 2013 16:33 (eleven years ago) link
it seriously pisses me off but what the fuck can anybody do
― available for sporting events (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Friday, 1 February 2013 19:31 (eleven years ago) link
Man, I knew Spotify sounded weird!
does last.fm have the same problem? I don't listen to the radio there but I was just about to get a subscription... (seems like it should, right?)
IMO this deserves its own thread
― frogbs, Friday, 1 February 2013 19:36 (eleven years ago) link
this is nuts!!
― original bgm, Friday, 1 February 2013 20:12 (eleven years ago) link
the difference waveforms sound really cool
― :C (crüt), Friday, 1 February 2013 20:16 (eleven years ago) link
The only thing I can imagine is maybe apple making a stance against it the same way they changed their stance towards DRM.
Though ironically it seems that's when UMG began watermarking, when DRM went out of fashion...
― hibernaculum (Jon Lewis), Friday, 1 February 2013 20:22 (eleven years ago) link
i wouldn't be surprised if a lot more of this sort of thing has happened post-drm tbh
― suze (Matt P), Friday, 1 February 2013 20:25 (eleven years ago) link
I wouldn't even care one damn bit if it actually were an 'inaudible' watermark!
― hibernaculum (Jon Lewis), Friday, 1 February 2013 20:33 (eleven years ago) link
is this grounds for some kind of legal action? say from ascap or someone. i know 0 about publisher/artist agreements and copyright law.
― suze (Matt P), Friday, 1 February 2013 20:48 (eleven years ago) link
Seems like more grounds for legal action from ppl who have spent money on defective flacs, M4As and MP3s.
― hibernaculum (Jon Lewis), Friday, 1 February 2013 21:20 (eleven years ago) link
yeah, this is a nice class action suit waiting to happen
― unprepared guitar (Edward III), Monday, 4 February 2013 03:21 (eleven years ago) link
sue these assholes for a change
― unprepared guitar (Edward III), Monday, 4 February 2013 03:22 (eleven years ago) link
one thing that really annoys me about these filesharing sites going down is that now I can no longer find stuff digitally that I already paid for/previously purchased in other formats. like, I'll be fucked if I'm going to give the Rolling Stones any more money just because I would like to hear Beggars Banquet on MP3 and my cassette copy is dead
― Welcome to my world of proses (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 8 February 2013 18:04 (eleven years ago) link
Along those lines, it's so much easier for me to download a boxed set than to sit in front of my computer feeding CDs (which I already own and paid for) in one at a time.
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 8 February 2013 19:47 (eleven years ago) link
Hence the Amazon AutoRip thing...
― try a little crowleymass (Jon Lewis), Friday, 8 February 2013 19:48 (eleven years ago) link
If I bought it from Amazon, right?
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 8 February 2013 19:48 (eleven years ago) link
Yeah you have to have bought it through Amazon. Cute idea though.
― try a little crowleymass (Jon Lewis), Friday, 8 February 2013 19:51 (eleven years ago) link
It's quicker to download a CD than it is for me to actually go to the basement, dig out the box, find it, and rip it. In fact, it's usually quicker to download it than do any one of those steps.
― Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Friday, 8 February 2013 20:54 (eleven years ago) link
either way the metadata is always off, like [DISC 2] of what, hmmmm????
― administrator galina (Matt P), Friday, 8 February 2013 21:20 (eleven years ago) link
the library of congress does a better job than all these idiots and it doesn't actually own anything
― administrator galina (Matt P), Friday, 8 February 2013 21:24 (eleven years ago) link
Doh i just lost another video i had done to youtube. I had taken vocals from a Beatles song and rewritten the backing track to be performed with videogame samples. It was pulled offline this morning. Doesn't surprise me, but it still kinda sucks.
― Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Saturday, 9 February 2013 16:54 (eleven years ago) link
damn totally noticing this UMG shit now :(
listening to Gaucho by steely dan and it's very noticable.
― downton arby (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 11 February 2013 21:26 (eleven years ago) link
ugh the thought of hearing watermarked cybergunked gaucho is so sad
― brimstead, Monday, 11 February 2013 21:31 (eleven years ago) link
very very noticeable esp on the female backing vox :(
― downton arby (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 11 February 2013 21:34 (eleven years ago) link
I have been asking around
Universal is also doing this to the soundtracks of all of their cinematic release films to prevent bootlegging. They're utterly open about it inside the industry, it's mandatory for all their partners, though clearly they don't want it to get out that they are compromising audio quality for the sake of copy protection.
This is an even more critical application for them: bootlegs & torrents of films that are still in the theater are a huge revenue loss. But their solution is to do this, across the board, to all of their films.
Arguably this impacts films more, where the soundtracks are of a greater dynamic range, because this is most audible during the quiet parts, and there are more of them in films.
― Milton Parker, Monday, 11 February 2013 21:35 (eleven years ago) link
insanity
― sleeve, Monday, 11 February 2013 22:06 (eleven years ago) link
it's like pissing on your sandwich so nobody else will eat it
― walloreinhart (Autumn Almanac), Monday, 11 February 2013 22:13 (eleven years ago) link
isn't that just an Aussie thing?
― pfunkboy (Algerian Goalkeeper), Monday, 11 February 2013 22:14 (eleven years ago) link
It's not to prevent bootlegging per se, right, it's to be able to tell where the bootleg derived from?
Milton thank you for digging! Any everyone itt. I am so glad ppl care about this fuckery.
― try a little crowleymass (Jon Lewis), Monday, 11 February 2013 22:23 (eleven years ago) link
today is the day, apparently.
http://www.slate.com/blogs/future_tense/2013/02/25/six_strikes_copyright_enforcement_system_launches_will_throttle_your_bandwidth.html
http://www.dailydot.com/news/copyright-alerts-how-to-download-upload-hide/
― j., Tuesday, 26 February 2013 04:02 (eleven years ago) link
VPN, here I come!
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 26 February 2013 04:56 (eleven years ago) link
yay local ISP
― my god i only have 2 useless beyblade (silby), Tuesday, 26 February 2013 05:01 (eleven years ago) link
^^^^
― ta-nehisi goatse (fadanuf4erybody), Tuesday, 26 February 2013 05:02 (eleven years ago) link
I wish we had a local ISP still.
But for all the hullabaloo about the CAS, there’s really only one action it flags. The program will try to catch anyone who uploads an established, copyrighted file using peer-to-peer (P2P) file sharing software, such as BitTorrent.
Not anyone who pirates using a file locker service like Megaupload. Not anyone who only downloads from P2P file-sharing services. Not even someone who slightly alters a file, uploads it for a short while on a P2P program, then stops before someone who works for the CAS notices.
Just uploaders.
Really? Still? I mean, awesome, America will just be leeching off of the rest of the civilized world. Some more. (smugface)
― new hope for orang-utan (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Tuesday, 26 February 2013 05:05 (eleven years ago) link
I'd always heard it's uploading that gets you in trouble. It's not downloading the new matchbox 20 album (what, just me?), it's sharing it with everyone else.
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 26 February 2013 05:12 (eleven years ago) link
Right, that was what they were suing about before. I'm just surprised they're continuing with that and not going after downloaders as well.
― new hope for orang-utan (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Tuesday, 26 February 2013 05:14 (eleven years ago) link
I think it's pretty hard, with bit torrent. You're downloading from dozens of places at once, in bits and pieces. But if you have something and you're sharing it, not just bits of it but all of it, you're a much easier target.
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 26 February 2013 05:25 (eleven years ago) link
Reminds me of a story my dad told me of getting pulled over in the middle of the night in Texas. He'd been speeding through the desert when he saw the cop lights, and per local law, they had to go wake up the judge to settle things that night. Everyone's tired, everyone's tired, and my dad asks, after paying up: "Everyone out there was speeding, too, so why did you pull me over?'
The cop's answer: "we'll get them next time."
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 26 February 2013 05:28 (eleven years ago) link
if you torrent, and share the torrent pieces as you get them (per default), then your ip address is visible unless you've taken some measures to hide it. whether or not you're flagged (e.g. to receive a warning via your isp, passing on the threat from the copyright holder) depends on whether someone is dedicating any resources to noting that you have been uploading (even as a torrent user). i suspect, from past experience, that this is more likely the more high-volume a thing you're stealing. (more commercial, more downloaders, closer to commercial release dates, etc.)
― j., Tuesday, 26 February 2013 05:54 (eleven years ago) link
PrivateInternetAccess gets me speeds pretty much identical to not being connected to a VPN, fwiw.
― Kiarostami bag (milo z), Tuesday, 26 February 2013 06:00 (eleven years ago) link
you guys could just stop stealing shit
― wk, Tuesday, 26 February 2013 06:32 (eleven years ago) link
good one.
― Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 26 February 2013 06:35 (eleven years ago) link
shakes fist
― wk, Tuesday, 26 February 2013 07:06 (eleven years ago) link
Still trusting my nntp USENET source of choice.
― Elvis Telecom, Tuesday, 26 February 2013 08:55 (eleven years ago) link