that already happened
― Donkamole Marvin (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 26 February 2013 22:53 (eleven years ago) link
yeah, a bunch NPR dorks recorded their own versions
― gentle german fatherly voice (President Keyes), Tuesday, 26 February 2013 23:09 (eleven years ago) link
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/recorded-music-industry-revenue-rises-424574
Music industry revenue rose last year for the first time since 1999.
― kendrick delmar - good kid, f.U.C.k. you (The Reverend), Tuesday, 26 February 2013 23:41 (eleven years ago) link
too bad approximately zero of that growth went to actual musicians. looks like most of it came from subscription services, which don't pay shit.
― Donkamole Marvin (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 26 February 2013 23:50 (eleven years ago) link
but they're easier than P2P so who cares right
they pay more than p2p
― iatee, Tuesday, 26 February 2013 23:51 (eleven years ago) link
sometimes
― Donkamole Marvin (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 26 February 2013 23:55 (eleven years ago) link
I'm at a point now where I don't care how much or little a subscription service pays out. It's finally the right platform in the post-Napster world and if the artists push back hard enough then they might get somewhere with their cut of the revenue. Lots of (not terribly old) artists are still of the old mindset, though, so it may be a few more years before anything substantial happens on that front.
― Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 27 February 2013 00:00 (eleven years ago) link
spotify etc will never pay a ton of money per play because they don't produce very much money per play
― iatee, Wednesday, 27 February 2013 00:02 (eleven years ago) link
^^^
they make all their money the same way most of the rest of the internet makes money - speculative investment, selling user data, etc. these sites aren't set up to generate revenue via content, content isn't worth anything anymore.
― Donkamole Marvin (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 27 February 2013 00:04 (eleven years ago) link
and it'll be outpaced by something else within a few years just like Rhapsody and eMusic were
― Donkamole Marvin (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 27 February 2013 00:05 (eleven years ago) link
http://i.imgur.com/PmuAUfB.gif
― ( X '____' )/ (zappi), Wednesday, 27 February 2013 00:06 (eleven years ago) link
How are you going to outpace a huge music library that you, as a user, basically "rent" each month? Are they just going to download shit directly into our minds?
― Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 27 February 2013 00:07 (eleven years ago) link
I'm sure someone will think of something. and some venture capitalist will give them a lot of money to launch it, and make a shit-ton of money overvaluing its stock, then it will go public, people will kinda like it, then they'll get tired of it - rinse and repeat
― Donkamole Marvin (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 27 February 2013 00:13 (eleven years ago) link
How are you going to outpace a huge music library that you, as a user, basically "rent" each month?
Not to belabor the point, but this is basically the platform I've been waiting to see realized since the first time I ever read about it hypothetically in some magazine articles nearly 20 years ago.
― Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 27 February 2013 00:14 (eleven years ago) link
their library sucks imho
― Donkamole Marvin (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 27 February 2013 00:15 (eleven years ago) link
granted I am not the standard music consumer
― Donkamole Marvin (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 27 February 2013 00:16 (eleven years ago) link
They're missing some things, but they often have a lot of things I'd never have expected to be there (and new releases on labels of all sizes get added all the time). It's not all-encompassing, but neither is the torrent world or the used cd/vinyl market.
― Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 27 February 2013 00:17 (eleven years ago) link
I'll stick with the illegal way where I can always find what I want
― brimstead, Wednesday, 27 February 2013 00:26 (eleven years ago) link
what do you guys think of a quasi-kickstarter scheme where bands release songs if x amount of contributory funds are reached, after which point anyone can have it for free, because it's pointless trying to police copying anyway?
― Philip Nunez, Wednesday, 27 February 2013 00:30 (eleven years ago) link
the Lex argument of 'oh Spotify is worthless because it doesn't have every single fucking thing i could ever want to listen to' is so stupid. there's never been one-stop-shopping, there never will be, but as far as individual sources go it's about as good as it'll ever get. xp
― luaka boppa flame (some dude), Wednesday, 27 February 2013 00:33 (eleven years ago) link
I think ppl should just go back to buying music if they really like it. Not in mp3 format.
― brimstead, Wednesday, 27 February 2013 00:33 (eleven years ago) link
whatever, I have no use for it xp
― brimstead, Wednesday, 27 February 2013 00:34 (eleven years ago) link
People listen to music in different ways. It's an amazing world.
It doesn't have a rather large percentage of what I want and I prefer to have mp3s anyway.
― kendrick delmar - good kid, f.U.C.k. you (The Reverend), Wednesday, 27 February 2013 00:35 (eleven years ago) link
In a perfect world, every artist would have a "Donate!" button on their website/Facebook/whatevs and I'd just download and listen to everything I wanted and whenever I was like, oh yeah this is great, I'd donate a couple bucks directly to the artist.
― Coke Opus (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 27 February 2013 00:42 (eleven years ago) link
yes let's make that happen!
― Philip Nunez, Wednesday, 27 February 2013 00:47 (eleven years ago) link
iatee roaringly otm. I'll take a tenth of a penny over zero
― available for sporting events (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Wednesday, 27 February 2013 00:49 (eleven years ago) link
shakey mo otm. i honestly think the best solution is government money for all self-declared artists (with the caveat that you have to write a twenty pager at the end of the year), but i'm not totally convinced it's within the realm of possibility.
xp well there's the real-world answer i guess
― administrator galina (Matt P), Wednesday, 27 February 2013 01:11 (eleven years ago) link
i thought that's how canada worked?
― Philip Nunez, Wednesday, 27 February 2013 01:15 (eleven years ago) link
https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2013/02/copyright-propaganda-machine-gets-new-agent-your-isp
― j., Wednesday, 27 February 2013 08:31 (eleven years ago) link
http://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2013/02/music-sales-are-growing-for-the-first-time-this-century-heres-why/273512/
― j., Wednesday, 27 February 2013 08:59 (eleven years ago) link
wow there is a lot interesting in that article
LISTENING IN OUR OWN LANGUAGEThe music market is global. But popular music is still local. Even though all of the top ten global albums and nine of the top ten global singles of 2012 were in English, Europeans still seem to prefer songs in their own languages. More than 60 percent of the top albums in key European countries were artists from that country.
The music market is global. But popular music is still local. Even though all of the top ten global albums and nine of the top ten global singles of 2012 were in English, Europeans still seem to prefer songs in their own languages. More than 60 percent of the top albums in key European countries were artists from that country.
I find this reassuring
― available for sporting events (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Wednesday, 27 February 2013 12:31 (eleven years ago) link
we have to figure out a way to ensure that 100% of the top albums in key European countries are in English, so that our economy can win
― ( ( ( ( ( ( ( (Z S), Wednesday, 27 February 2013 14:07 (eleven years ago) link
I don't know the answer but I know Guy Fieri will be involved
― Euler, Wednesday, 27 February 2013 14:12 (eleven years ago) link
Mmmm, that's money! Off the hook!
― Gerald McBoing-Boing, Wednesday, 27 February 2013 16:38 (eleven years ago) link
Would love to see a version of the gif with the circle growing and shrinking with total revenues.
― skip, Wednesday, 27 February 2013 16:50 (eleven years ago) link
I think I'm going to ask my bosses to revive the practice of talked-over promos - you know, "You're listening to (Name of Album), by (Name of Artist), available everywhere (Date)" - but I want Guy Fieri to do all the voice-overs.
― 誤訳侮辱, Wednesday, 27 February 2013 16:51 (eleven years ago) link
a facebook informant tells me that on the day or so (maybe day after) that the anti-piracy rollout was announced, he downloaded something and his connection was shut down.
he called an 800 number to reactivate it and they knew the names of the files he had downloaded.
so i guess the RIAA is starting to get its shit working pretty well.
― j., Thursday, 28 February 2013 02:43 (eleven years ago) link
what had he downloaded?
― Mordy, Thursday, 28 February 2013 02:49 (eleven years ago) link
Uncle Acid rare live photos
― in a chef-driven ambulance (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 28 February 2013 02:53 (eleven years ago) link
game over man
― Mordy, Thursday, 28 February 2013 02:55 (eleven years ago) link
everybody's gonna stop listening to music and start downloading porn instead. rip music
― available for sporting events (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Thursday, 28 February 2013 02:59 (eleven years ago) link
now they know what porn u download
― :C (crüt), Thursday, 28 February 2013 03:00 (eleven years ago) link
false, the Porn Providers Association of American doesn't have its shit together the way the gangsters in the RIAA do
― available for sporting events (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Thursday, 28 February 2013 03:03 (eleven years ago) link
I think that sounds fucking stupid.
also fucking stupid.
― wk, Thursday, 28 February 2013 06:05 (eleven years ago) link
I like the idea of musicians holding their music hostage
― iatee, Thursday, 28 February 2013 06:07 (eleven years ago) link
radiohead just made a new album if they don't raise $5m by friday they will delete every single fucking song don't test them they are serious
well that's the dumb part of the kickstarter model. what do you do if you don't raise enough money? just stop making music?
― wk, Thursday, 28 February 2013 06:08 (eleven years ago) link
come up w/ a more adorable story
― iatee, Thursday, 28 February 2013 06:08 (eleven years ago) link