in the 2nd part of SFN - the way Kevin sings "you" and "could", like breathing them in and out, with those swirling guitar on the background, is one fucking highlight of this record.
― nostormo, Thursday, 28 February 2013 22:48 (eleven years ago) link
if i am, i think; I couldn't remember if anyone had repped for it in the other threads, it is a confluence of a few sweet post-blown-a-wish, sorta-glider-esque threads i think.
― schlump, Thursday, 28 February 2013 23:47 (eleven years ago) link
mbv fans: inverting descartes since 2013
― c'est magnifique, mais ce n'est pas le beurre (imago), Thursday, 28 February 2013 23:49 (eleven years ago) link
In another way
― kornrulez6969, Friday, 1 March 2013 00:13 (eleven years ago) link
New You.
― Marty8501 (Marty Innerlogic), Friday, 1 March 2013 13:22 (eleven years ago) link
"only tomorrow" is amazing.That said, I'm also fond of the final diptych "nothing is"/"wonder2".
― AlXTC from Paris, Friday, 1 March 2013 14:05 (eleven years ago) link
don't understand why you guys think Only Tommorow is so AMAZING.it's very good though
― nostormo, Friday, 1 March 2013 14:14 (eleven years ago) link
it's either New You or In Another Way, I can't remember.
― lo! dating (dog latin), Friday, 1 March 2013 14:16 (eleven years ago) link
i am right in this thread
― schlump, Friday, 1 March 2013 14:28 (eleven years ago) link
Wonder 2
― EZ Snappin, Friday, 1 March 2013 16:34 (eleven years ago) link
only 2m
― cheeseburger, Friday, 1 March 2013 16:39 (eleven years ago) link
Basically can never remember any MBV song titles. Maybe that's the point?
― global tetrahedron, Friday, 1 March 2013 17:05 (eleven years ago) link
xxposts
well, I think the thread about "only tomorrow" sums up pretty well what is so good about this track !"Is this and yes" and "If I am" remain the dark spot of the album for me... still don't really know them. that said, they have 22 years to grow on me !
― AlXTC from Paris, Friday, 1 March 2013 17:29 (eleven years ago) link
it would be so amazing if mbv somehow turned into a normal band and released some new stuff a year from now
― ( ( ( ( ( ( ( (Z S), Friday, 1 March 2013 17:35 (eleven years ago) link
...as long as they continue to release great music, i agree
― nostormo, Friday, 1 March 2013 17:40 (eleven years ago) link
I can totally see KS announcing a new album next year.and then postponing it a few months, then to the following year...
― AlXTC from Paris, Friday, 1 March 2013 17:44 (eleven years ago) link
didn't he said there is also some material worth of an ep or something?
i wish they made a relatively simple rock/pop album like Realise, but it won't happen.probably.
― nostormo, Friday, 1 March 2013 17:50 (eleven years ago) link
I've said it before, but a whole album like "Off your face" would be a very fine thing for me. So I chose "new you".
― Rob M Revisited, Friday, 1 March 2013 17:54 (eleven years ago) link
Just realised that doesn't really make sense.
― Rob M Revisited, Friday, 1 March 2013 17:55 (eleven years ago) link
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― schlump, Friday, 1 March 2013 22:43 (eleven years ago) link
nothing is
― my father will guide me up the stairs to bed (anagram), Friday, 1 March 2013 22:48 (eleven years ago) link
gonna guess your favourite spiderland track is 'for dinner' :P
(admittedly there's a bit more to 'nothing is', and it is kinda ecstatic)
― c'est magnifique, mais ce n'est pas le beurre (imago), Friday, 1 March 2013 22:51 (eleven years ago) link
(xps) Agreed re: Off Your Face.
The stand out tracks for me from the start were Only Tomorrow and New You, but If I Am is really growing on me.
― A Yawning Chasm (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Saturday, 2 March 2013 08:10 (eleven years ago) link
Three way tie between Soon Is Now, Only You and Who Made Who.
― Supposed Former ILM Lurker (WeWantMiles), Monday, 4 March 2013 10:10 (eleven years ago) link
Actually, I'm amazed no-one has picked Who Sees You (track 3). One of the best MBV songs of all time, for my money. Love the guitar solo too, particularly the chord progression under it. I hope they do a Neil Young & Crazy Horse on that solo next week.
― Supposed Former ILM Lurker (WeWantMiles), Monday, 4 March 2013 13:45 (eleven years ago) link
I was listening to the CD at home yesterday at high volume on the stereo and it was so good.I finally enjoy all the tracks.It might seem crazy but I think I prefer it to "loveless" now.The songs are not better but it sounds much better.
― AlXTC from Paris, Monday, 4 March 2013 13:54 (eleven years ago) link
Gonna listen to IAW and W2 again right now and make a fucken decision
― c'est magnifique, mais ce n'est pas le beurre (imago), Monday, 4 March 2013 13:57 (eleven years ago) link
it's Wonder 2. level-up!
― c'est magnifique, mais ce n'est pas le beurre (imago), Monday, 4 March 2013 14:22 (eleven years ago) link
although I'm kinda slightly regretting it now because the seesaw guitar-effect in the background of IAW's chorus/fadeout is heartbreakingly wonderful
two astounding songs
― c'est magnifique, mais ce n'est pas le beurre (imago), Monday, 4 March 2013 14:24 (eleven years ago) link
Actually, I'm amazed no-one has picked Who Sees You (track 3).
I did. The guitar tone on that track is just thrilling.
― Elvis Telecom, Monday, 4 March 2013 18:10 (eleven years ago) link
Automatic thread bump. This poll is closing tomorrow.
― System, Tuesday, 5 March 2013 00:01 (eleven years ago) link
"never too early" would be prefect for the make up fake mbv song titles thread.
Voted "wonder 2" cos it overwhelms everything right now. But I suspect longer term one of the more subtle cuts like "if i am" might become a stand out.
― Jeff W, Tuesday, 5 March 2013 13:04 (eleven years ago) link
Cannot understand people picking Wonder 2 which I find so lifeless and boring. Will probably vote for Only Tomorrow but Who Sees You, IAW and New You are pretty much at the same level
― licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Tuesday, 5 March 2013 21:25 (eleven years ago) link
"wonder 2" is dfferent from the rest, maybe people think it points into a new direction or something but i find it dull as well. i'd say it is one of those dead-ends in music, in the beginning it seems to be an interesting, promising road until you realise that it doesn't lead anywhere. "only tomorrow" on the other hand is still unbelievable and seems to stand the test of repetition. i must have listened to it more than 20 times (but i think i have to be creful no not to overplay it) and it still overwhelms me, i have to listen to it on headphones with eyes closed and pressed together so that i furrow my brow in order to concentrate even more, to suck the noisy and at the same time so melodic guitar sound into my brain completely. especially the 2nd half after 3:30 when the 2nd unfuzzy guitar comes in and plays the wistful theme. and as a second layer there is still the distorted guitar on top of it. the contrast between these two guitars makes the song for me.
― it's the distortion, stupid! (alex in mainhattan), Tuesday, 5 March 2013 21:57 (eleven years ago) link
creful no = careful now
― it's the distortion, stupid! (alex in mainhattan), Tuesday, 5 March 2013 21:58 (eleven years ago) link
I think I would be more into "Wonder 2" if I hadn't already burnt out on Third Eye Foundation
― "Bellini." (DJP), Tuesday, 5 March 2013 21:59 (eleven years ago) link
and "wonder 2" is by far too long, there are too few things happening in those never-ending six minutes, i have to skip the end. additionally i find the motif and the singing annoying, in the end there is just this "whirlwind" noise which blows through the whole track, a song on the slight side.
― it's the distortion, stupid! (alex in mainhattan), Tuesday, 5 March 2013 22:07 (eleven years ago) link
the problem is simple: drum n bass. a problematic genre.
― nostormo, Tuesday, 5 March 2013 22:11 (eleven years ago) link
actually a proper mix of mbv guitars and Dn'B could have been something - but in practice I don't hear and bass just some muffled drums, buried under that annoying whirring sound
― licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Tuesday, 5 March 2013 22:15 (eleven years ago) link
i don't really know drum n bass but i am pretty sure "wonder 2" is not the classical drum and bass track, maybe mbv's take on it.
― it's the distortion, stupid! (alex in mainhattan), Tuesday, 5 March 2013 22:15 (eleven years ago) link
more drum less bass
― nostormo, Tuesday, 5 March 2013 22:16 (eleven years ago) link
There is nothing even remotely approaching drum n bass on this album.
― A Yawning Chasm (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Tuesday, 5 March 2013 22:23 (eleven years ago) link
Can't we have 3EF and mbv?
Where 3EF's (brilliant) last album was a stunningly intense dark night of the soul, catharsis thru absolute tragedy etc, Wonder 2, while using a similar percussive set-up, is sheer ecstasy, glory-of-God shit. And it's all about the organ, rising and rising, rising a few semitones beyond what you'd expect, veering upwards as feedbacking guitars alternately struggle to keep pace or overshoot, and a wallowing distortion timbre charges in lustily during the instrumental parts in a vain attempt to anchor it all. I don't know about you but when I listen to that song I feel I'm perpetually falling forwards into space, the tension is how far it can go, how long it can keep expanding for
― c'est magnifique, mais ce n'est pas le beurre (imago), Tuesday, 5 March 2013 22:29 (eleven years ago) link
If I am
reminds me of 'Swallow'. Another hit for me
― Jessie Fer Ark (Mobbed Up Ping Pong Psychos), Tuesday, 5 March 2013 22:49 (eleven years ago) link
I am increasingly loving If I Am (but have already voted for Only Tomorrow)
― A Yawning Chasm (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Tuesday, 5 March 2013 22:51 (eleven years ago) link
Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.
― System, Wednesday, 6 March 2013 00:01 (eleven years ago) link
Good winner, but this Nothing Is 3:34 12 is mystifying
― A Yawning Chasm (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Wednesday, 6 March 2013 00:11 (eleven years ago) link
As someone who has maintained that the final third of the record is the best, having those three songs finish in the top 4 and receiving 43 votes to the 38 votes the rest of the disc garnered, this poll gives me a little validation.
So thanks, ILM.
― Loud guitars shit all over "Bette Davis Eyes" (NYCNative), Wednesday, 6 March 2013 00:17 (eleven years ago) link
It is mystifying that different people like different things?
― Chewshabadoo, Wednesday, 6 March 2013 01:35 (eleven years ago) link
aw, poor 'is this and yes', you grew on me a lot after a couple of listens
― c'est magnifique, mais ce n'est pas le beurre (imago), Wednesday, 6 March 2013 02:15 (eleven years ago) link
Wonder 2 just feels like an idea Kevin Shields has had lying around since 1997. Which might be true of quite a lot of this actually.
― Matt DC, Thursday, 14 March 2013 11:18 (eleven years ago) link
Wonder 2 is a bit of a messy track in execution IMO.
― pssstttt, Hey you (dog latin), Thursday, 14 March 2013 11:25 (eleven years ago) link
Just posting up a bit of early Third Eye Foundation for comparison for those who don't know it:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=90rIyiuQ5B0
― acid in the style of tenpole tudor (NickB), Thursday, 14 March 2013 11:34 (eleven years ago) link
No, but mystifying that so many people found that their favourite track out of all of them.perhaps they were trolling
Voted "Nothing Is" and definitely not trolling. Pleased it got so many votes. When I listened to the album through for the first time it was the only track that demanded to be heard again. Obviously the dark horse of the album.
― my father will guide me up the stairs to bed (anagram), Thursday, 14 March 2013 12:58 (eleven years ago) link
tbh I am somewhat surprised that anyone gunning for a My Bloody Valentine album in 2013 hasn't already heard Third Eye Foundation
― Darth Icky (DJP), Thursday, 14 March 2013 14:33 (eleven years ago) link
You gotta be kidding.
― Trip Maker, Thursday, 14 March 2013 14:39 (eleven years ago) link
Yeah, I haven't
― Mark G, Thursday, 14 March 2013 15:01 (eleven years ago) link
I assumed they were a bigger deal then they actually were/are, I guess; I generally assume by the time I hear about any band everyone else is tired of them and has moved on
― Darth Icky (DJP), Thursday, 14 March 2013 15:03 (eleven years ago) link
i've heard exactly one song by TEF.
― pssstttt, Hey you (dog latin), Thursday, 14 March 2013 15:12 (eleven years ago) link
Think that later Third Eye Foundation once the guitars got ditched is generally better known too, and at that point any major similarity to MBV is lost
― acid in the style of tenpole tudor (NickB), Thursday, 14 March 2013 15:29 (eleven years ago) link
I remember being recommended TEF at the time but could not find any of their stuff in stores so I just forgot about it
― licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Thursday, 14 March 2013 15:34 (eleven years ago) link
I can remember quite a few acts trying that mbv/shoegaze meets dance thing in the late 90s, Acceleradeck and Chessie were a couple I remember liking quite a bit, although they were generally on the more drone end.
http://youtu.be/JnRI60H-Myg
― Chewshabadoo, Saturday, 16 March 2013 10:32 (eleven years ago) link
first TEF album Semtex is definitely essential listening for those who want to hear the shoegaze/jungle amalgam
― in 2013 we will all be yuppies from the 'eighties (Drugs A. Money), Saturday, 16 March 2013 16:38 (eleven years ago) link
this album is fucking amazing, of course
― reet pish (imago), Wednesday, 3 July 2013 02:55 (ten years ago) link
ehh it's pretty good. i'm not bored of it yet.
― electricsound, Wednesday, 3 July 2013 03:21 (ten years ago) link
the middle run of tracks really does grow on ya
― reet pish (imago), Wednesday, 3 July 2013 03:23 (ten years ago) link
the first track became my favorite now
― nostormo, Wednesday, 3 July 2013 06:09 (ten years ago) link
In Another Way gives me all sorts of crazy synaesthetic yearnings. I think it's one of the best songs of the last ten years. I didn't even vote for it here (because Wonder 2 is just as good)
― diarmuid o'gallus (imago), Friday, 1 November 2013 01:06 (ten years ago) link
Wonder 2 is great but in another way beats it. Only tomorrow has no business being in the top 3 here.
― (emphasis Treeship's) (Treeship), Friday, 1 November 2013 02:39 (ten years ago) link
it does tbf, it's the 3rd best track
― diarmuid o'gallus (imago), Friday, 1 November 2013 02:41 (ten years ago) link
Wonder 2 is the only song I skip on this (ok, besides the boring stereolab one), can't understand for the life,of me what people hear in that song. In another way & only tomorrow otoh are career highlights
― licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Friday, 1 November 2013 08:25 (ten years ago) link
New You is the only one I go back to.
― Pingu Unchained (dog latin), Friday, 1 November 2013 09:17 (ten years ago) link
voted for IOW. still think it's the best song here.
She Found Now should be higher
― nostormo, Friday, 1 November 2013 12:15 (ten years ago) link
this will have been one of the great records of 2010-15
kevin shields is too much
― rahrah avis (imago), Tuesday, 7 July 2015 00:05 (eight years ago) link
I still haven't heard this!
― Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Tuesday, 7 July 2015 00:51 (eight years ago) link
Wow "Is This and Yes" got 0 votes? I love that song! It's like a really really really chilled out Stereolab.
This album is great, I agree. Way better than it should have been.
― AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Tuesday, 7 July 2015 01:50 (eight years ago) link
"new you" has the biggest hook, surprised it didn't get more votes
― brimstead, Tuesday, 7 July 2015 02:18 (eight years ago) link
New You is the highlight by far. Can take or leave the rest.
― cod latin (dog latin), Tuesday, 7 July 2015 09:31 (eight years ago) link
I love this album and yes, one of the best records of the decade so far
― tayto fan (Michael B), Tuesday, 7 July 2015 10:55 (eight years ago) link
"and for you?"
― example (crüt), Tuesday, 7 July 2015 11:02 (eight years ago) link
^ def their best song
― cod latin (dog latin), Tuesday, 7 July 2015 11:15 (eight years ago) link
This is one great album.
― Marty8501 (Marty Innerlogic), Tuesday, 7 July 2015 11:18 (eight years ago) link
lol crut
― rahrah avis (imago), Tuesday, 7 July 2015 11:49 (eight years ago) link
If I Am so underrated :(
― X-101, Tuesday, 7 July 2015 14:37 (eight years ago) link