Thicke: Slicke or Dicke?

wish "Love After War" had been the pop hit that Thicke's "Got To Get It Up Pt. 23" is.

if two versions were "one where everybody's in classy nightwear" and "one where the ladies are half-dressed" we'd probably be saying the same thing. what classy ilxor dude is going to say "i prefer the more objectifying one".

i haven't heard "love after war" but i don't begrudge the ongoing Got To Give It Up franchise in fact it should get a montage at the grammys

"love after war" is pretty good as is that entire album but it's no "blurred lines"

if two versions were "one where everybody's in classy nightwear" and "one where the ladies are half-dressed" we'd probably be saying the same thing. what classy ilxor dude is going to say "i prefer the more objectifying one".

waterface!

if you appreciate something specifically for how it dances on the line between tacky and not, then yeah if a 2.0 version drops a month later that leaps over the line it's a buzzkill. not that hard to understand.

i understand it, i just also find it funny to have guys bemoan the fact that someone made a piggish video more piggish

There's levels to this shit.

but hey, how better to illustrate the concept of blurred lines

i haven't seen the "unrated" version, but the difference is just that they're topless right? i mean, the models are already half-dressed in the other video, so it seems kind of arbitrary to act like they ruined some innocent fun by being piggish

― da croupier, Thursday, 13 June 2013

just go watch both videos before opening your fat gob, omfg.

since they're mostly collecting moments of unrehearsed unchoreographed clowning, jagger moves and interaction, one is gonna be different to the other.

i dunno the thing i liked about the video is that it sort of felt like a miracle, like it came out way better than the concept would leave you to believe. there's something accidentally great about it, i think.
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― J0rdan S

otm

the accidental brilliance of a star trak boner party

it's fine if u don't like the rated video, ur just rong abt why it can be preferred to the unrated

i like it fine! i just was mocking sentiments like "kinda ruined the pure wtf joy of the original" and "It'd be like if the album version didn't say "what rhymes with 'hug me'", which suggested dudes didn't realize they were already enjoying some skeevy shit

the video was annoying rated and is annoying unrated. the nakedness is a red herring because even in the first video the women are still on that creepy dead-eyed cat marnell shit. also, obnoxious hashtags (when did people decide they were okay with those? why does everyone keep the hashtag in "Beautiful" when writing *NSYNC or Wal*Mart would violate every style rule extant?) also, I am not convinced robin thicke is as endowed as he boasts.

robin thine

as far as terry richardson tributes featuring a dude doing a bill cosby tribute go "blurred lines" is definitely top tier

fun fact (according to wikipedia): director diane martel also did the choreography for the "Shiny happy people" video

Shiny happy thicke people

does the unrated version still feature the remy martin bottle?

the women are still on that creepy dead-eyed cat marnell shit

disagree - i think they're affecting a form of model cool that makes them mostly indifferent or ambivalent towards the men, which has the effect of undermining their don juan pretentions and making them ridiculous.

Fawning over men in whatever state of undress is not ambivalence.

yeah i guess there is more fawning and less cool indifference than i remembered. still think "creepy, dead-eyed" is inaccurate tho.

Just watched the video (and just heard this jam of the summer) for the first time. It works because they're all clearly having fun. Much more deadpan than dead-eyed. Everyone in that video has charm.

Prince must be slapping his forehead, the way he prolly did with "Poison" before writing "Gett Off."

omg i didn't know he co-wrote "give it to you". amazing.

j0rdan otm on the difference between the original and unrated videos

what makes the original charming is that the set-up is kind of like behind-the-scenes on a fashion shoot, the off-camera goofing around, having fun with the props etc - there's an awareness of how ridiculous and yes sexist it all is, but there's also chemistry between the models and the dudes - and the models are def doing more than either affecting dead-eyedness or fawning, though there's a bit of both, there's interaction and goofy little facial expressions etc. the unrated version loses a lot of that. and yeah the power imbalance that the nudity introduces makes it...not great. (couldn't u even take your shirt off tip/robin? it actually makes the dudes look less idk manly/brave/whatever to not change anything for this ~special~ version of the video)

Unrated version has better framing. Original has lots of shots that feel cropped.

the "orig" is the nude version; thicke claims he was the one to say uhh dudes we should probably have a clean version too, for whatever that is worth

Ever the gentleman

and yeah the power imbalance that the nudity introduces makes it...not great

yeah see when guys suggest toplessness introduces a power imbalance to a terry richardson style photo shoot involving famous men in tuxes and anonymous women in hot pants, i really can't help but tease

http://www.billboard.com/articles/columns/the-juice/1567020/robin-thicke-reveals-blurred-lines-album-release-date-track-list

1. "Blurred Lines" feat. T.I. and Pharrell
2. "Take It Easy On Me"
3. "Ooo La La "
4. "Ain't No Hat 4 That"
5. "Get In My Way"
6. "Give It 2 U" feat. Kendrick Lamar
7. "Feel Good"
8. "Go Stupid 4 U"
9. "4 The Rest Of My Life"
10. "Top Of The World"
11. "The Good Life"

finally a short robin thicke record

i'm gonna guess that came together fairly quickly

Something Else is 12 tracks and is pretty great

ain't no hat 4 that, nooooo, no can do

yeah see when guys suggest toplessness introduces a power imbalance to a terry richardson style photo shoot involving famous men in tuxes and anonymous women in hot pants, i really can't help but tease

― da croupier, Friday, June 14, 2013 11:29 AM (4 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

yeah both versions are just terry richardson photo shoots, don't really know what all of you are on about tbh

if you appreciate something specifically for how it dances on the line between tacky and not, then yeah if a 2.0 version drops a month later that leaps over the line it's a buzzkill. not that hard to understand.

― some dude, Thursday, June 13, 2013 7:30 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark

lol rtc

i wouldnt put it past him tbh

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NTqmiwHHktE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NTqmiwHHktE

if you appreciate something specifically for how it dances on the line between tacky and not, then yeah if a 2.0 version drops a month later that leaps over the line it's a buzzkill. not that hard to understand.

― some dude, Thursday, June 13, 2013 7:30 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark

― J0rdan S., Friday, June 14, 2013 8:14 PM (2 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

again, you're both confused if you think anyone doesn't understand why the second was a bonerkill. mocking the self-flattering language you use to defend the boner you had before the bonerkill. can you really argue the blurred lines "dances on the line between tacky and not"? what exactly is that line, pg-13 objectification vs. r? or at that only when the shirts come off there's a power imbalance, or that it's just harmless frisky wtf joy turned dark at that point. you really have to be through the rap video looking glass to think your stance on what's a pig bridge too far isn't arbitrary. and again, i enjoy the video fine but I know it's some sexist shit and bemoaning that an unrated version made the sexism even more blatant is hilarious.

people are mocking the language, i mean

yeah j0rdan stop defending your boner for those naked girls

i'm just suck of him and lex seeing women as nothing but conquest material is that so wrong

i actually thought my needless inclusion of "rap" in front of "video" was going to be someone's chance to claim the high ground while ignoring the point

haha woah obv typo xpost

anyway i'm just lolling at guys claiming their swimsuit issue was turned tawdry by nipple that's all

thicke: sucke or ducke

finally watched the unrated vid (didn't realize vevo wouldn't make me log-in to anything!) and yeah i think i might have liked it more. still had dudes dancing around goofily (plus) still had hashtags (minus) more shots of a giant syringe, fewer of a remy martin bottle and if i'm going to see a bunch of half-naked girls dance around i'm not bothered by them being topless.

not seen or heard but gonna give thicke the unbenefit of the paltry doubt i have and dismiss him as a completely shit fucker whom i have neither the time nor the inclination for, whether he is an important cultural phenomenon or not