Jackin' House partisans, convince a skeptic

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these last couple of 2:31s have been absolutely firing

r|t|c, Friday, 14 June 2013 01:09 (ten years ago) link

Haha, was listening to a 2:31 set and thinking "what the fuck is this amazing tune?", then realised it could only be "Dorothy's Armpit".

"The Tickle" is great too, yes.

Tim F, Wednesday, 19 June 2013 21:59 (ten years ago) link

if it happens to be the 5th june one then there's a tune of c&a's at 54 mins or so that is thee very zenith of yr "compulsive broken machine loops", more or less just a clanking 8 bar riddim

on the most recent 12th june they actually premier an official(!) remix of a new newham generals tune and they sound to the grimey manor born. so nice to hear d double on something decent again!

r|t|c, Wednesday, 19 June 2013 22:12 (ten years ago) link

Yeah it's the 12th June set I'm listening to. Will listen to the 5th.

What's the baile funk sampling tune later in the 12th set? That also fits the bill perfectly.

Also the remix of "Jack" at 89 minutes.

Tim F, Wednesday, 19 June 2013 22:19 (ten years ago) link

Which I should stress is totally amazing.

Tim F, Wednesday, 19 June 2013 22:20 (ten years ago) link

i'm just getting round to the second hour of 12th june now, left it at the newgens track

the best periods of these last couple of shows have been when they just get their heads down and do banging driving in-the-pocket house sets (like what normals think of jackin i suppose) only with the current tools at hand. very exciting, makes me want to get a gym membership

also their occasional throwback record of the week slot is invariably excellent and cratediggy, i must go back thru and note them all down

r|t|c, Wednesday, 19 June 2013 22:23 (ten years ago) link

Actually I think it's the track just before "Jack" I'm talking about.

Real time education going on here.

Tim F, Wednesday, 19 June 2013 22:23 (ten years ago) link

Haha yes I've already tested the first half of this set at the gym, it's a perfect soundtrack.

Tim F, Wednesday, 19 June 2013 22:24 (ten years ago) link

the funny thing about these sets is that for me they've rekindled my enthusiasm for jackin (well, belief in its agency rather) but also made me surer than ever that viewing jackin as some wild isolated sui generis tribe is totally the wrong way to gain any meaningful purchase on it

basically i think these might the first mixes that arent just a showcase of great tracks but articulate the true vibe fully

r|t|c, Wednesday, 19 June 2013 22:37 (ten years ago) link

http://soundcloud.com/pete-graham/pete-graham-lorenzo-marina

oh the baile funk sampling tune!

omg i hear the the other one now. the wild west themed one with train crossing bell? idk what it is but YES it's brilliant

god i love how they either mix in or actually interpolate parts of 'marina gasolina' preceding to give it the full touch of evil mexican border town lawless twilight vibe

r|t|c, Wednesday, 19 June 2013 23:01 (ten years ago) link

the funny thing about these sets is that for me they've rekindled my enthusiasm for jackin (well, belief in its agency rather) but also made me surer than ever that viewing jackin as some wild isolated sui generis tribe is totally the wrong way to gain any meaningful purchase on it

Yes, I've struggled with the question of whether enjoying jackin' in the context of, say, a DJ Q set, is getting a misreading on it the same way I would have considered to be the case for someone approaching funky via Oneman or whoever. Like, is there something inherently point-missing about the polystylistic pick'n'mix appraoch?

Obv. a key difference is the nature/character/context of the person doing the picking and mixing. But it also just feels like jackin' itself is less interested in constructing its own soundworld, is more open to and curious about the world around it, forms a cluster of intensity within a broader disseminated vibe-chain rather than establishing its own nation-state-of-vibe.

Tim F, Wednesday, 19 June 2013 23:06 (ten years ago) link

yeah like i mean take for instance 'jack' playing now, at first you think oh right it's 'jack' big tune on the scene etc etc. but listen closer and isn't the crucial kinda weirdly queasy animal groaning that makes the track (counterintuitively not erotic at all in juxtaposition with the vocal) such a move totally at home amongst jackin - absolutely not appropriated by in dialogue, but something already there that jackin waxes and wanes on as it suits it

r|t|c, Wednesday, 19 June 2013 23:20 (ten years ago) link

and after that the same taiki & nulight mix of ray foxx that dj q played just to underline the point

r|t|c, Wednesday, 19 June 2013 23:23 (ten years ago) link

Agreed re "Jack". BUT! What is that oh holy fuck amazing broken machine loop at about 111 minutes??

Tim F, Thursday, 20 June 2013 09:30 (ten years ago) link

don't know but this is the wild west one you two were talking about upthread:

https://soundcloud.com/justin-martin-music/db087-01-justin-martin-and

there's also one simple reason i think that makes 2:31 shows more vibey and exciting than yr average jackin/house & bass mix: tunes being mixed in and out relatively quickly! i mean selection-wise 2:31 obviously has its own quirks of course (tons of C&A, Shorterz' euro-leanings) but mostly it's the same tunes you get in other jackin/h&b mixes, with the difference that those other mixes usually feel plodding coz the tunes drag out for cca 4 mins and here it's all fast-paced whizz-bang stuff - which is how it should be, 'proper' house tunes usually peak several mins in but this stuff lays out all its wares as soon as it can so it does not lend well to trad house mixing really

Mind Taker, Thursday, 20 June 2013 10:07 (ten years ago) link

v true of course. kinda starting to wonder if there's actually any type of music that i wouldnt enjoy as long as it was mixed hard n fast

doh yes it is indeed 'wheelgunner'. rmde epic diligence fail since not only do i see i must have heard it in mixes loads of times but i already seem to have the dirtybird players comp on here

mt would you also happen know what the very linear bouncy number is they play with the breathy "couldnt do this without you" male croon?

r|t|c, Thursday, 20 June 2013 10:51 (ten years ago) link

BUT! What is that oh holy fuck amazing broken machine loop at about 111 minutes??

― Tim F, Thursday, 20 June 2013 10:30 (1 hour ago) Bookmark

tim surely you havent failed to recognise your own beloved 'kneadin'??

oh wait but the clanker i was on about upthread is there at 118 mins actually

r|t|c, Thursday, 20 June 2013 10:54 (ten years ago) link

No 111 minutes not 71 minutes!

Tim F, Thursday, 20 June 2013 12:02 (ten years ago) link

And by the same token do you meant the clanker at 78 minutes? Because that's some serious clanking action.

Tim F, Thursday, 20 June 2013 14:13 (ten years ago) link

Also Mind Taker is spot on with the analysis. Further to that point these machine loop tunes like "Wheelgunner (Dub)" arguably don't even work as standalones, the trick is in how Shorterz and Cause & Affect drop into them and then mix out as soon as possible into something else.

Tim F, Thursday, 20 June 2013 14:18 (ten years ago) link

And can I just:

https://soundcloud.com/mynuleng/sets/contact-ep-forthcoming-black

Tim F, Thursday, 20 June 2013 14:21 (ten years ago) link

aaargh feel like i should know what the 'couldnt do this without you' tune is but don't :\

weirded out a bit by news that "Kneadin'" and "Girls" are to be released on... Nurvous, of all places?

Mind Taker, Thursday, 20 June 2013 22:13 (ten years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jdH34MdPOEI

MikoMcha, Monday, 24 June 2013 18:02 (ten years ago) link

jus' enterin thread to say BRING BACK JOEY YOUNGMAN

if it requires the wolfgang gartner entity to be destroyed so be it

fauxmarc, Monday, 24 June 2013 18:05 (ten years ago) link

not to indulge ur illiteracy but i actually quite liked gartner's 'overdose' this year tbh

r|t|c, Monday, 24 June 2013 19:04 (ten years ago) link

not indulgin taste, either huh =/

fauxmarc, Monday, 24 June 2013 19:26 (ten years ago) link

hell no

r|t|c, Monday, 24 June 2013 19:35 (ten years ago) link

am slightly more predisposed to Youngman's style than to Gartner's and *still* can easily off the top of my head name several Gartner's tunes i've enjoyed while struggling with Youngman - WG's Britney remix is up there with the best of mersh electrohouse, JY's best can barely compete with, say, the grooveliciousness of Jason Hodges' "Sweat of Your Brow" rmx or delirious all-out wackiness of Soydan's "Running with the Beat"

(sorry for furthering the thread derail but i rarely get a chance to ramble on about this sort of stuff!)

Mind Taker, Monday, 24 June 2013 21:14 (ten years ago) link

Good crash course best of jackin here: Tom Garnett - 70 To 1 Mix.

https://soundcloud.com/tomgarnett11/tom-garnett-70-to-1-mix

MikoMcha, Tuesday, 25 June 2013 08:52 (ten years ago) link

i wonder if any of you jackin heads could tell me the song that starts about 89 minutes into the 5th June 2.31 set?

jackinjack, Thursday, 27 June 2013 22:49 (ten years ago) link

if you mean the one in between the dorothys with the 'good times' stabs then he says its the woz mix of kry wolf 'concrete'

http://soundcloud.com/ash-woz/kry-wolf-concrete-woz-remix

r|t|c, Thursday, 27 June 2013 23:23 (ten years ago) link

oh no sorry actually its 79.30 into the mix

jackinjack, Thursday, 27 June 2013 23:52 (ten years ago) link

also is there a set list somewhere?

jackinjack, Thursday, 27 June 2013 23:52 (ten years ago) link

baunz 'the same thing', huxley remix

r|t|c, Friday, 28 June 2013 00:13 (ten years ago) link

awesome, cheers

jackinjack, Friday, 28 June 2013 07:19 (ten years ago) link

omfg for his archive section pick in this week's 2:31 lorenzo only went and drew for... fabolous 'into you'!!!! TRULY HE IS A GOLDEN GOD.

r|t|c, Friday, 28 June 2013 19:32 (ten years ago) link

two weeks pass...

HOLY SHIT @ SCHAFFEL-JACKIN:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r4kfKFjCLoQ

Tim F, Sunday, 14 July 2013 12:13 (ten years ago) link

I know that's actually been around for a while but I just felt like sharing.

Tim F, Sunday, 14 July 2013 12:26 (ten years ago) link

a classic

pink panther sample in there is ad lib music crit at its finest

r|t|c, Sunday, 14 July 2013 12:40 (ten years ago) link

but listen closer and isn't the crucial kinda weirdly queasy animal groaning that makes the track (counterintuitively not erotic at all in juxtaposition with the vocal) such a move totally at home amongst jackin

― r|t|c, Thursday, 20 June 2013 00:20 (3 weeks ago) Bookmark

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S6JF2CUMvVY

r|t|c, Sunday, 14 July 2013 12:43 (ten years ago) link

AHHHHHH SO GOOD

Tim F, Sunday, 14 July 2013 12:53 (ten years ago) link

wahey!!!! [creates super abstract stygian soundworld]

― r|t|c, Tuesday, 8 January 2013 11:28 (6 months ago) Bookmark

prescient post of prescient posts tbh

r|t|c, Sunday, 14 July 2013 13:03 (ten years ago) link

haha

not an abstract stygian soundworld but I've also been loving Lorenzo and Drapes' "This & That" of late.

Tim F, Sunday, 14 July 2013 13:15 (ten years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KZxO0lDaSbs

owing to the rinse shows i'm a fiend for this one lately. pitiless dominatrix whitney flip x booyaka ruffneck speed garage is so otm

r|t|c, Sunday, 14 July 2013 13:35 (ten years ago) link

one month passes...

my second all-lorenzo mix

http://www.mixcloud.com/bennybrassic/lorenzo-mix-volume-two/

http://www39.zippyshare.com/v/99436674/file.html

1. Darlin' - Tom Zanetti, Ko Kane, Lorenzo
2. I love you so - Pete Graham, Ill Phil & Lorenzo
3. Joe Grizzly - Cause and Affect
4. Dorothy's Forest - Pete Graham & Chris Lorenzo
5. Dappy - Hannah Wants & Lorenzo
6. Pull up in my whip - Cause & Affect
7. So Special - Hannah Wants & Chris Lorenzo
8. 1 Minute Man - Cause and Affect
9. Don't like to do that - Cause & Affect
10. Dirty Little Secret - Ill Phil, Ryan James & Lorenzo ft. Vie
11. I refuse - Hannah Wants & Lorenzo
12. Hesitate - Hannah Wants
13. It's true - Hannah Wants & Chris Lorenzo
14. Poppin; - Cause & Affect
15. When the Doves Cry - Bdot & Lorenzo
16. Where's the party at? - Daft Jack & Lorenzo
17. Open Page (Hannah Wants & Lorenzo mix) - Lenzman ft. Riya
18. Oppose Authority - Cause & Affect
19. Lil Method - Donkie Punch & Lorenzo
20. Snatch my crops - Cause & Affect
21. Bang Bang Bang - Coldcuts & Lorenzo
22. Whoomp there it is - Louie Benton & Lorenzo
23. Soundbwoy Killa - Cause & Affect
24. Erotic Prince - Paranoid Resistance
25. I want you - Lorenzo & Stikkylips
26. Hungry for the powder - Ill Phil, The House Monkeyz & Lorenzo

Benny B, Thursday, 15 August 2013 20:12 (ten years ago) link

<3 <3 !!!!!!

TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 15 August 2013 20:30 (ten years ago) link

great, but only 32kbps?

Pingu Unchained (dog latin), Thursday, 15 August 2013 20:45 (ten years ago) link

?

its in 320kbps for sure

Benny B, Thursday, 15 August 2013 20:59 (ten years ago) link

'dirty little secret', choice selection

r|t|c, Thursday, 15 August 2013 21:06 (ten years ago) link

four weeks pass...

And by the same token do you meant the clanker at 78 minutes? Because that's some serious clanking action.

― Tim F, Thursday, 20 June 2013 15:13 (2 months ago) Bookmark

lol the new hannah wants setlist reveals that this track is titled 'testosterone deficiency' :D

r|t|c, Saturday, 14 September 2013 08:18 (ten years ago) link


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