Captain Beefheart

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Everyone should do disco

Bees Against Racism (Tom D.), Sunday, 16 June 2013 12:28 (ten years ago) link

In Mojave Desert, disco does you.

Home Despot (WilliamC), Sunday, 16 June 2013 12:34 (ten years ago) link

I'm sorry but "Captain's Holiday" is embarrasing. The rest of the album is quite alright with me.

Moka, Sunday, 16 June 2013 18:01 (ten years ago) link

There's a chain of thought that "Captain's Holiday" involves no magic band or Don input at all, and is some master they found in the studio.

Mark G, Sunday, 16 June 2013 19:33 (ten years ago) link

So: that Trout remaster any good?

Call the Cops, Sunday, 16 June 2013 21:54 (ten years ago) link

xp, plus "the magic band" on this record shared no members with any other incarnation of the group.

fit and working again, Sunday, 16 June 2013 22:32 (ten years ago) link

No, but.

I didn't think they were so bad, "Upon the My O My" whistle test, for example. Nothing wrong there!

Mark G, Monday, 17 June 2013 08:03 (ten years ago) link

You know what's amazing? The live album recorded at My Father's Place.

kaleb h. (Everything You Like Sucks), Monday, 17 June 2013 09:39 (ten years ago) link

I'm sorry but "Captain's Holiday" is embarrasing. The rest of the album is quite alright with me.

Well yes that song is terrible, also I really hate "Rock 'n Roll's Evil Doll", the rest is fine.

Bees Against Racism (Tom D.), Monday, 17 June 2013 10:08 (ten years ago) link

one year passes...

Remastered ‘Lick My Decals Off, Baby‘, ‘The Spotlight Kid‘ and ‘Clear Spot‘ on their way:

http://www.beefheart.com/new-boxset-to-be-released/

Warners have been digging in their archives and are about to release a FOUR disc collection on the Rhino label – ‘Sun Zoom Spark: 1970 to 1972‘.

Due for release on 11 November 2014 this set will include remastered versions of ‘Lick My Decals Off, Baby‘, ‘The Spotlight Kid‘ and ‘Clear Spot‘ (but with no bonus tracks). The fourth disc is a collection of fourteen outtakes which have not been previously released legitimately.

These are the outtakes:

01 Alice in Blunderland (Alternate Version)
02 Harry Irene
03 I Can’t Do This Unless I Can Do This/Seam Crooked Sam
04 Pompadour Swamp/Suction Prints
05 The Witch Doctor Life (Instrumental Take)
06 Two Rips in a Haystack/Kiss Me My Love
07 Best Batch Yet (Version 1)
08 Your Love Brought Me To Life – Instrumental
09 Dirty Blue Gene (Alternate Version 1)
10 Nowadays a Woman’s Gotta Hit a Man (Early Mix)
11 Kiss Where I Kain’t
12 Circumstances (Alternate Version 2)
13 Little Scratch
14 Dirty Blue Gene (Alternate Version 3)

As many fans will already know there are many more outtakes from this time that could have been included so to see only a few is a bit of an anticlimax.

However, it’s good to see ‘Decals‘ finally getting a release after only being available on CD in limited editions and being pretty much unavailable for years. Hopefully the remastering will be done sympathetically to make it shine alongside ‘The Spotlight Kid‘ and ‘Clear Spot‘.

What’s more it’s great that this release has been put together with Jan van Vliet’s involvement, with previously unseen artwork being made available.

‘Sun Zoom Spark‘ will be released as a 4 CD set (at a reasonable price) and a 4 disc vinyl set (at twice the price!)

Duke, Monday, 15 September 2014 18:32 (nine years ago) link

yeah there's been some talk on the rolling reissue thread

sleeve, Monday, 15 September 2014 18:34 (nine years ago) link

Ah - will check that out. Happened to notice a tweet by The Wire earlier.

Duke, Monday, 15 September 2014 18:36 (nine years ago) link

Also check this out, a proper recreation of "It Comes To You In A Plain Brown Wrapper": http://albumsthatneverwere.blogspot.co.uk/2014/08/captain-beefheart-it-comes-to-you-in.html

Gerald McBoing-Boing, Wednesday, 17 September 2014 00:49 (nine years ago) link

beefheart blows. his music's so contemptuous, can't even write a catchy melody! postmodern wank

imago, Wednesday, 17 September 2014 01:21 (nine years ago) link

how dare he appropriate the blues and openly mock it with avant-garde structures. im personally offended

imago, Wednesday, 17 September 2014 01:23 (nine years ago) link

do you feel like a mummy?

Mark G, Wednesday, 17 September 2014 09:47 (nine years ago) link

beefheart blows

forward 'n back presumably or possibly his stacks

FYI Macedonia (Tom D.), Wednesday, 17 September 2014 09:56 (nine years ago) link

imago I'm gonna assume that was another poorly formed attempt at a joke, otherwise you're dead to me

sleeve, Wednesday, 17 September 2014 14:04 (nine years ago) link

Does it really matter either way?

Colossal Propellerhead (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 17 September 2014 14:13 (nine years ago) link

"The stars are matter, we're matter, but it doesn't matter."

FYI Macedonia (Tom D.), Wednesday, 17 September 2014 14:16 (nine years ago) link

probably not xp

sleeve, Wednesday, 17 September 2014 14:20 (nine years ago) link

lj is a hamburger

Sir Lord Baltimora (Myonga Vön Bontee), Wednesday, 17 September 2014 15:19 (nine years ago) link

lol sorry late-night frustration at the hey qt debate boiled over. let me unambiguously state that beefheart is a genius & a miracle

imago, Wednesday, 17 September 2014 15:48 (nine years ago) link

it's a bad comparison anyway o mortal shame

imago, Wednesday, 17 September 2014 15:53 (nine years ago) link

one month passes...

ILX alum Andy Beta provides a pungent, appealing presentation of the xpost Rhino reissue collection, esp. in relation to Trout Mask. Wish he'd been more than parenthetical about "(disc four a fascinating set of outtakes and unreleased material)," but good overall, considering how much there is to for everyone to hear differently. Pretty sure that Decals has been in the Amazon MP3 store for a while, and didn't have much trouble getting the others on CD (years ago), though this batch may well sound better:
http://pitchfork.com/reviews/albums/19923-captain-beefheart-sun-zoom-spark-1970-to-1972/

(Several Beefheart pieces linked at bottom of this 'un.)

dow, Friday, 14 November 2014 00:51 (nine years ago) link

They should sound better, as the CD editions of all three were done over 20 years ago.

Don A Henley And Get Over It (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 14 November 2014 00:56 (nine years ago) link

Last night I watched the first couple hours of From Straight to Bizarre doc about Zappa's record labels and artists. There's tons of details about Beefheart and the making of his early albums, especially Trout Mask. Includes lengthy interviews with a couple Magic Band members. Sounds like they came out of the experience brainwashed and fairly traumatized. Interesting stuff.

Free Me's Electric Trumpet (Moodles), Friday, 14 November 2014 01:03 (nine years ago) link

The new version of "Trout Mask Replica" on Zappa records is worth getting, the sound is much improved.

The only actual difference I can recall is the lack of the hobo chat, you know, the "he had a s-s-s-stammer" bit.

Basically, the master as per the normal CD release had degraded over time and use, but Frank had made a safety copy of the mix back in the day, and safely stored it. Nearly all the tracks have been replaced (notably, "Frownland" is unchanged)

Mark G, Friday, 14 November 2014 09:23 (nine years ago) link

. Sounds like they came out of the experience brainwashed and fairly traumatized. Interesting stuff.

Yeah, that's been known about for a while. I'm ploughing my way through the John French book and the Captain really was a terrible man, a terrible man... and this is before we get to TMR (they haven't even started recording Safe As Milk yet!) Some of his abuse and mistreatment of his bandmates is hilarious to read about it but I'm guessing it wasn't to experience.

R. Stornoway (Tom D.), Friday, 14 November 2014 10:58 (nine years ago) link

I know I've stanned for this already, but the movie "Frank" is very much about this level of band trauma..

Mark G, Friday, 14 November 2014 11:23 (nine years ago) link

From the John French book: Monkees were recording 'Headquarters' in (the apparently shitty) RCA Studios at the same time as the Magic Band were recording 'Safe As Milk' and Mike Nesmith, who wasn't too happy about being a Monkee, took to hanging about with Don.

R. Stornoway (Tom D.), Friday, 14 November 2014 15:56 (nine years ago) link

Read somewhere that, when Hendrix Experience was first touring USA, opening for Monkees, they all enjoyed hanging out, except Davy Jones (nobody in either band liked him).

dow, Friday, 14 November 2014 16:11 (nine years ago) link

four months pass...

Blurt Mag is giving away the Beefheart box (contest). Deadline 4/18--would have posted sooner, but just now saw it:
http://blurtonline.com/win-captain-beefheart-deluxe-box-set/

dow, Monday, 13 April 2015 22:46 (nine years ago) link

Have not recovered from the psychotrauma of the JF book enough to actually resume listening to beefheart yet

demonic mnevice (Jon Lewis), Monday, 13 April 2015 23:32 (nine years ago) link

Blurt Mag is giving away the Beefheart box (contest). Deadline 4/18--would have posted sooner, but just now saw it:
http://blurtonline.com/win-captain-beefheart-deluxe-box-set/

― dow, Monday, April 13, 2015 5:46 PM (1 week ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Hey thanks for posting this btw cuz I won the contest

chr1sb3singer, Wednesday, 22 April 2015 16:34 (nine years ago) link

nice! i still gotta get that box, no one gave it to me for xmas or my bday. what the hell is wrong w/ my family.

tylerw, Wednesday, 22 April 2015 16:40 (nine years ago) link

I know! I was really dropping the hints to my wife, but I got some socks instead oh and a baby.

chr1sb3singer, Wednesday, 22 April 2015 16:42 (nine years ago) link

but your baby's middle name is "Beefheart" right?

tylerw, Wednesday, 22 April 2015 16:43 (nine years ago) link

"Rockette Morton" Besinger

chr1sb3singer, Wednesday, 22 April 2015 16:50 (nine years ago) link

wau congrats!

it KILLS me that "Funeral Hill" isn't on that fourth record, what the hell

sleeve, Wednesday, 22 April 2015 17:23 (nine years ago) link

five months pass...
one year passes...

http://www.beefheart.com/50th-anniversary-of-safe-as-milk/

Stevolende, Tuesday, 4 July 2017 10:42 (six years ago) link

four months pass...

I was not expecting the sample tracks to be so enjoyable.

o. nate, Saturday, 4 November 2017 02:08 (six years ago) link

one year passes...

So not only is Jeff Cotton (Antennae Jimmy Siemens) not dead, but he sounds terrific and has apparently never stopped playing and is turning back to being a full-time player again: https://youtu.be/qZNAgY8xqq8

Three Word Username, Wednesday, 23 January 2019 12:33 (five years ago) link

Sad to see that Drumbo French keeps posting FB commments pro-Wall.
Somebody mentioned a seeming trend of avant rock band drummers who turned out to be conservative alarmists. I know Moe Tucker is very much this, now Drumbo french, so are there others?

Stevolende, Wednesday, 23 January 2019 12:39 (five years ago) link

Cotton makes a negative comparison of DVV to Trump towards the end of that interview, so they haven't all gone bad.

Three Word Username, Wednesday, 23 January 2019 12:43 (five years ago) link


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