Nu-Metal re-assesed?

Scott is there a nu metal meets metal/death core band out there?

^^^ YES!! Haktavist

I remember seeing the Deftones at the first Warped Tour (95, iirc) on the second stage (they played after Sick of it All) and thinking they were a bad version of Quicksand. (Who also played.) Also seeing a very early RATM show, and all of us sorta laughing at Zach trying to rap and annoyed that it didn't sound like Inside Out. It was kind of those Revelation Records post-hardcore bands that started it out, right?

Does anyone remember a band called House of Suffering? I still think they started the rap-hardcore thing...

Biohazard also responsible perhaps?

Giving me flashbacks to Dog Eat Dog on Headbanger's Ball. Who's the king who's the king who's the king who? Who's the king who's the king who-ha!

macdara is no fronting here ;)

anyway weren't Urban Dance Squad the first?

Senser ftw

I remember being in #metal on DALnet and there were vicious multilingual flame wars going on whenever anybody even mentioned Slipknot. At one point the metalheads running the channel (most of whom were Swedish) got so pissed off at nu-metal they basically coded a script that kick-banned people who even mentioned the names "Slipknot", "Korn" or any other band of the moment. Even if you said "Limp Bizkit sucks", as they weren't that good at programming.

haw haw, I remember this. i also vaguely remember Emperor and Cradle of Filth coming close to the status of Slipknot and Korn, but not quite.

Oh yeah, House of Suffering and Biohazard were around the same time. Anyway, just wanted to drop in to make sure nobody forgot Downset.

Emperor were getting flack for IX Equilibrium at the time, which was misguided. I also was a huge CoF fan (not so much anymore) so I fought over that, lol.

Some of the worst cover versions ever came out in the nu-metal era

lol YES. for a little while at least. I remember Postmortem being the dude that ran it, and a few other people. and _b0b_. and Depresy, and.....a few others.

wow, this is all coming back to me. I used to be an op on #mp3_death.

xp Two words: "Smooth Criminal"

xpost lol. I was Hell_Awaits and I got banned a lot. remembered nuking one of the Ops once in retaliation, was fun.

xp Two more words "Blue Monday"

"Word Up"

"Shock The Monkey"

"Mission Impossible theme"

xxxxp woah, I think I remember you. I was Desantnik.

OMG. I think I argued with you once or twice, lol!

haha, I was on the extreme end of things metal-wise. If you repped CoF, then we definitely had a word or two.

BJO arguing even back then? :D

It was right in the middle of a major depressive episode so honestly it would have been more rare if I wasn't arguing with people, usually in a series of expletives.

Emperor were getting flack for IX Equilibrium at the time, which was misguided.

Limp Bizkit's cover of Faith is probably the second most embarrassing song that I love, the first being the theme song from Dawson's Creek

I don't think IX Equilibrium was that bad. I liked about half of it (even though it was a marked step downward from its predecessor).

But the backlash I speak is that many metalheads in that channel basically wanted to disown Emperor's past because of one misstep.

haha wow guys i love ix equilibrium

damn

So any thoughts about the female contribution to nu-metal, folks?

Kittie? Sugarcoma?

I met the members of Kittie when they were on their first North American tour - they were opening for Disturbed. The Lander sisters' dad was their tour manager.

The thing that I tend to remember most about Kittie is that they tended to go through bandmembers like people with colds go through Kleenex.

I dont remember one single song by them. I just remember them being around.

You don't even remember that song I played for the LOLs in plug the other night? XD

they were a gimmick, and a dumb one at that. 'omg let's show the boys that girls can be metal too'. sorry, that had already been done (and better) by like, Girlschool, and the lead vocalist for the band Chastain, and even a few years earlier by Drain S.T.H.

Drain S.T.H. were they the swedish Alice In Chains soundalikes? They didn't have the S.T.H. bit in their name here, we dont do the london suede or charlatans uk thing.

yeah that was them.

the more poppist and annoying to "good taste" nu-metal gets the more i warm to it

"charlotte" is awesome

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LkRWTWBBsAc

siamese dream-ish quality to their guitar tone

i just had a klondike bar, and i'm listening to staind

― markers, Monday, July 1, 2013 9:00 PM

how the fuck did we go from siamese dream to significant other in only six years

person pitch came out six years ago

jesus new filter album will really hurt your ears.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7NVzypkryyc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ayUlXGPC0SE

it is everything bad about bad things.

One of the worst bands I ever saw (supporting Smashing Pumpkins in 96)

I was wearing my Young Gods longsleeve and a bunch of people in the queue to get in were talking about how "Filter were the best industrial band".

i'm trying to think of a way to describe how shitty that filter stuff sounds but i'm having trouble. like shit dipped in shit and then put on top of shit to melt into a pool of shit that is then poured over your head while you are neck deep in a pile of shit.

"hey man nice shit" - a Filter fan

SP has only ever had complete shite openers bc billy can't be upstaged

this is probably a good thread for me to mention once again how baffled i am that all you dudes with good taste seem to still hold forth abt the deftones not being terrible. i like a lot of shitty stuff but man that band idgi