The dylannn (west coast hip-hop) listening club

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me too

sisilafami, Saturday, 6 July 2013 12:48 (ten years ago) link

me 2

rap steve gadd (D-40), Saturday, 6 July 2013 14:41 (ten years ago) link

well throw me another one

dylannn, Saturday, 6 July 2013 20:09 (ten years ago) link

What's the protocol for suggestions? Do I have to get in line or can I make some informally?

viacom dios, Saturday, 6 July 2013 20:21 (ten years ago) link

What's the protocol for suggestions? Do I have to get in line or can I make some informally?

― viacom dios, Saturday, July 6, 2013 1:21 PM (6 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Read the bottom half of the OP. I'll add you to the list.

next after the Mob Trial album is:

Reverend
Whiney
Sisilafami
viacom diss

Shock G Mo Collier (Spottie_Ottie_Dope), Saturday, 6 July 2013 20:32 (ten years ago) link

but i'm glad quik has been confined to the west coast because i'm really not feeling lightweight 80s r&b beats.

Damn cut me to the core.

Shock G Mo Collier (Spottie_Ottie_Dope), Saturday, 6 July 2013 20:34 (ten years ago) link

this andre nickatina guy... what's his deal?

dylannn, Saturday, 6 July 2013 22:26 (ten years ago) link

the jacka, ap.9 and husalah - mob trial

i know jacka off cormega collaborations, a full track on legal hustle, where he seemed compromised by interest in east coast rap forms, into conflicted dope sales lyrical tropes, and this album opens with jacka sounding a lot like a haunted bay area cormega, riding in a box chevy lamenting the death of mac dre, .50 cal in his lap the only friend he can trust. after jacka riding rainy day new york beats and mob figaz gangsta tracks, the best moments on the first listen...
1. husalah on "sleep with da fishes" every car he drives has the roof in the back pulling bitches in the mall on some noisy distorted drums smeared thick euphoric mess. talking shit on the outro as all the roars and squeals crescendo over top of him.
2. "a gangsta's gangsta," which was created just for today, doooot doot doot doot doot, pineapple cream soda and just smoked the perfect amount of silver euphoria, 88 degrees outside on a saturday, car interior still smells like armor all. jacka nervous with his hand on his gun, that perfect round drum shape, jacka still with his hand on his strap whistling in the driver seat under california sun. feeling this.
3. quik on some '86 powerglide r&b, i can sort of appreciate it but it's not my thing, and i'm not really sure about the noise and speed on mob trial.... i like it on the surreal tracks, laying rubber in a dairy queen parking lot in a caprice... and i can dig it on "hott head," where it's turnt up way too loud, roaring synths and suddenly dramatic strings and hard drums, comfortingly familiar rhymes about sweeping up shells after you do the hit.
4. "murder on my mind." husalah outshines jacka and ap.9 all over this album, just want to sit here transcribing his lines in all caps YOU WANNA GET FLY LIKE A GANGSTA / PUSH PIES LIKE A GANGSTA / BUT YOU SCARED TO DIE LIKE A GANGSTA / AND WHEN IT'S REALLY GOIN DOWN / YOU NIGGAS AIN'T AROUND / MAK-90 LAY EM DOWN / NORINCO 60 ROUNDS. -- someone listen to that and correct it, really hope it's a norinco shoutout.
5. "thrones and crowns," jacka in pensive storytelling mega mode again. amazing.
6. that fucked up chirp and piano beat on "gorgeous."

too many answering machine tracks and andre nickatina.

dylannn, Saturday, 6 July 2013 23:28 (ten years ago) link

Nickatina (dre dog) is an old gawd of the bay. Had his shine in the early 90s w out any crossover hits or any notoriety outside of the yay. He's just kept that regional cult following. He hasn't done too much of note since the 90s imo and his presence on anything anymore is like a bay stamp of approval.

Shock G Mo Collier (Spottie_Ottie_Dope), Saturday, 6 July 2013 23:41 (ten years ago) link

^ liked that album

Neanderthal, Saturday, 6 July 2013 23:42 (ten years ago) link

you want in on the rotation?

Shock G Mo Collier (Spottie_Ottie_Dope), Saturday, 6 July 2013 23:45 (ten years ago) link

debating. kinda feel like you got your bases covered with folks like the Rev and D-40 in tow.

Neanderthal, Saturday, 6 July 2013 23:45 (ten years ago) link

(don't take that as a slight, everyone else, whole crew that's signed up is solid)

Neanderthal, Saturday, 6 July 2013 23:47 (ten years ago) link

listening back on some nickitina now and it hasnt aged well at all. i loved him in high school but every did at the time cos it was cool to be down w him. very juvenile and basic, violent for violence sake but not as ott as like Brotha Lynch so its not nearly as much fun.

Shock G Mo Collier (Spottie_Ottie_Dope), Saturday, 6 July 2013 23:49 (ten years ago) link

just do it man, there's plenty of releases to cover.

Shock G Mo Collier (Spottie_Ottie_Dope), Saturday, 6 July 2013 23:50 (ten years ago) link

aight sign me up.

Neanderthal, Saturday, 6 July 2013 23:50 (ten years ago) link

i figured he must be an old legend. he sounds goofy on this beside jacka and husalah and ap9.

dylannn, Saturday, 6 July 2013 23:51 (ten years ago) link

and yeah feel free to just go with them once i listen to the last one.

dylannn, Saturday, 6 July 2013 23:52 (ten years ago) link

http://img164.imageshack.us/img164/7224/husalahmollywoppin.jpg

favorite rapper this week

dylannn, Saturday, 6 July 2013 23:56 (ten years ago) link

Husalah is great

heres my favorite cut off his solo album that deej put me on a while back
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZC6zNLDRDN0

Shock G Mo Collier (Spottie_Ottie_Dope), Sunday, 7 July 2013 00:00 (ten years ago) link

Husalah's dope. I love his album "Huslin since the 80s" (which I believe I heard of from deej)

lol xpost

Neanderthal, Sunday, 7 July 2013 00:01 (ten years ago) link

ha

Shock G Mo Collier (Spottie_Ottie_Dope), Sunday, 7 July 2013 00:02 (ten years ago) link

I also like Messy Marv but I think i'm alone on that

Neanderthal, Sunday, 7 July 2013 00:04 (ten years ago) link

ahem i believe you mean "the boyboy young mess"

some dude, Sunday, 7 July 2013 00:34 (ten years ago) link

the boyboy young me$$ iirc

rap steve gadd (D-40), Sunday, 7 July 2013 00:46 (ten years ago) link

yeah hus def steals the show on that comp

my favorite track is 'ways and means' tho

rap steve gadd (D-40), Sunday, 7 July 2013 00:50 (ten years ago) link

K im trading marv off my Madden team gettin rid of my Marv music when i get home due to that name

Neanderthal, Sunday, 7 July 2013 03:13 (ten years ago) link

marv is a total self-destructive asshole in general, that name is somehow the least of his transgressions

also, yo lemme get in on this spottie

thot police (fadanuf4erybody), Sunday, 7 July 2013 04:45 (ten years ago) link

You're on the list.

Rev he's ready so you're up.

Shock G Mo Collier (Spottie_Ottie_Dope), Monday, 8 July 2013 18:36 (ten years ago) link

ok ok

B-Legit - The Hemp Museum, but only if u smokes big with Rider and Gary Payton

lady steendriver (The Reverend), Monday, 8 July 2013 21:57 (ten years ago) link

keepin' it in the bay, nice choice!

Shock G Mo Collier (Spottie_Ottie_Dope), Monday, 8 July 2013 22:57 (ten years ago) link

i feel as if dylannn will fuck with b-legit. possibly end up liking him more than e-40 idk

rap steve gadd (D-40), Monday, 8 July 2013 23:11 (ten years ago) link

I could def see that.

Shock G Mo Collier (Spottie_Ottie_Dope), Monday, 8 July 2013 23:21 (ten years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WVPFGMPJZ-A

dylannn, Tuesday, 9 July 2013 06:00 (ten years ago) link

what is the source of that over the top bay area sound like some tracks off the mob figaz album, the turf talk/keak i've heard, mac dre?

dylannn, Tuesday, 9 July 2013 06:04 (ten years ago) link

i'm sure "gotta buy dope from us" and a few other tracks i know these from screw mixes also

dylannn, Tuesday, 9 July 2013 06:06 (ten years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AeqL6kjMskU

^^^^^^^^ classic imho

alright let me find my xacto wrap this popcorn up and get back in it

dylannn, Tuesday, 9 July 2013 06:08 (ten years ago) link

These screw joints are cool.

Which specific sound you talking about xp?

Shock G Mo Collier (Spottie_Ottie_Dope), Tuesday, 9 July 2013 06:12 (ten years ago) link

extremely dense beats, drums that sound sort of digital and slightly distorted and really snappy handclaps and other trebly snaps on the top of it, shit that sounds like sirens going off the whole time-- that doesn't describe all of it but i just mean NOISY. "ways and means" is the best example off the mob trial album, i think, and like, "white t-shirt blue jeans and nikes," what i imagine to the mid-2000s bay area sound.

dylannn, Tuesday, 9 July 2013 06:24 (ten years ago) link

Studio Ton maybe...
http://a1yola.com/producers/studio-ton/

inhouse producer for loads of 90s Sick Wid It records

Shock G Mo Collier (Spottie_Ottie_Dope), Tuesday, 9 July 2013 06:39 (ten years ago) link

Tone Capone as well

Shock G Mo Collier (Spottie_Ottie_Dope), Tuesday, 9 July 2013 06:41 (ten years ago) link

b-legit - the hemp museum

man sorry. i've got nothin to say about this. i made a claim that if i made a list of my 100 favorite rap albums i'd have nothing from the south on there unless i really needed to fill space and i put on doggystyle but this would definitely be on there. this is the sound i love, the same bass and whine that came to houston, got slowed down a little, imagine anyone from yungstar to keke on the same beats. that bay area 96 sound is the template for all the houston classics like "tops drop," "realest rhymin." all these beats would sound right on sailin da south-- the one exception i guess is "gotta buy your dope from us," which if i knew anything about-- ah fuck, man the problem with doing this is i like writing about shit i know about, so i feel so nervous hearing "gotta buy your dope from us" as some proto-hyphy shit the forerunner of the turn of the century big beat bay area sound, but i don't know the history at all but it reminds me of that. b-legit is... i dunno, love that slightly mushmouth but flow is near perfection style. this is a classic.

dylannn, Tuesday, 9 July 2013 06:52 (ten years ago) link

if there's anybody out there who doesn't know about west coast rap or never heard it

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=shZ6C75eRrY

i mean

dylannn, Tuesday, 9 July 2013 06:53 (ten years ago) link

Yeah this sound runs parallel with the suave house sound. Probably a little more emphasis on live bass slaps out west where the SH sound rolled a little smoother and deeper

Shock G Mo Collier (Spottie_Ottie_Dope), Tuesday, 9 July 2013 07:19 (ten years ago) link

Love Daryl Hall on this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cufAvrEtuuU
his guitar fits perfect in the mix too

Shock G Mo Collier (Spottie_Ottie_Dope), Tuesday, 9 July 2013 15:02 (ten years ago) link

extremely dense beats, drums that sound sort of digital and slightly distorted and really snappy handclaps and other trebly snaps on the top of it, shit that sounds like sirens going off the whole time-- that doesn't describe all of it but i just mean NOISY. "ways and means" is the best example off the mob trial album, i think, and like, "white t-shirt blue jeans and nikes," what i imagine to the mid-2000s bay area sound.

You talking about hyphy? Does this fit?:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KOmuejuRdws

Lambo Sedan (Whitey on the Moon), Tuesday, 9 July 2013 23:59 (ten years ago) link

yeah, that's basically what i'm talking about.

dylannn, Wednesday, 10 July 2013 00:04 (ten years ago) link

*lookin

rap steve gadd (D-40), Thursday, 17 July 2014 20:59 (nine years ago) link

never really bought off on a full album of Mac Dre although every album seems to have plenty of outstanding cuts.

Strictly EZ Snappin' Nhex (Spottie), Thursday, 17 July 2014 21:06 (nine years ago) link

i often listen to al boo boo these times

sisilafami, Thursday, 17 July 2014 21:42 (nine years ago) link

I liked Mac Mall's Illegal Business a little better than any Mac Dre album I heard

relentlessly pecking at peace (President Keyes), Thursday, 17 July 2014 23:33 (nine years ago) link

next!

Οὖτις, Friday, 25 July 2014 21:26 (nine years ago) link

Deej, was this your rec?

The Jacka - The Jack Artist

― rap steve gadd (D-40), Tuesday, July 15, 2014 4:43 AM (1 week ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Strictly EZ Snappin' Nhex (Spottie), Friday, 25 July 2014 22:00 (nine years ago) link

i've heard that raelly amateur raw like i like but we can talk about it
i've been listening to genie of the lamp

dylannn, Friday, 25 July 2014 22:24 (nine years ago) link

wait so you mean you've listened to that Jacka album

Οὖτις, Friday, 25 July 2014 22:44 (nine years ago) link

I don't know it myself

Οὖτις, Friday, 25 July 2014 22:44 (nine years ago) link

If we're still on mac dre

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Xc6LfTExnsw

Οὖτις, Sunday, 27 July 2014 03:31 (nine years ago) link

https://bkblack28.files.wordpress.com/2014/03/next.jpg

Οὖτις, Thursday, 31 July 2014 17:09 (nine years ago) link

Cool, here is where we left off:

Spottie - Suga Free 'Street Gospel'
D-40 - Jacka/Husalah 'Mob Trial'
Reverend - B-Legit 'The Hemp Museum'
octobeard - Blackalicious 'Blazing Arrow'
Whiney - Low Profile 'We're In This Together'
Sisilafami - E40 'Grit & Grind'
viacom diss - Nacho Picasso 'Exalted'
Neanderthal - J Stalin 'Prenuptial Agreement'
fadanuf4erybody - Above the Law 'Uncle Sams Curse'
Upper Mississipi - Ice Cube 'Death Certificate'
Shakey - Mac Dre - Dreganomics
D-40 - Jacka - The Jack Artist
k3vin -
Sisilafami -
Spottie -

― Strictly EZ Snappin' Nhex (Spottie), Monday, July 14, 2014 9:38 PM (2 weeks ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Kev you are you up you have one day to report or we skip to sisilafami

Strictly EZ Snappin' Nhex (Spottie), Thursday, 31 July 2014 17:59 (nine years ago) link

Thanks to Sisilafami's rec, I've been heavy on the A-Wax album. He's a deceptively good writer. Also, unrelated but very impressive is the RATKING 'So It Goes' album from a few months back. Surprised to see no ILM traction.

viacom dios, Thursday, 31 July 2014 18:40 (nine years ago) link

Sorry, thought I was in the Rolling Rap Bro thread. But I'd nominate A-Wax 'Pulling Strings' if dylann's game.

viacom dios, Thursday, 31 July 2014 18:42 (nine years ago) link

if dk isn't weighing in on the jacka i'm picking another one get kev out the paint

rap steve gadd (D-40), Thursday, 31 July 2014 22:11 (nine years ago) link

Solid job blocking out by deej who secures the rebound...

Strictly EZ Snappin' Nhex (Spottie), Thursday, 31 July 2014 23:50 (nine years ago) link

eleven months pass...

Can we revive? I don't want to jump the line but there's so much good west coast rap right now! Mostly, though, I just love to read Dylann.

Yelploaf, Friday, 17 July 2015 19:00 (eight years ago) link

oh this is an awesome idea, i totally need a west coast education too

― amandabama murderpussy (some dude), Saturday, July 6, 2013 4:47 AM (2 years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

If dylannn needs/wants out (which it sounds like he does) then we can transfer the thread to sd, if he wants in.

Spottie, Friday, 17 July 2015 20:03 (eight years ago) link

I just scanned to see what was mentioned. Feel like I know a ton more 90s West Coast stuff now than I did back when this thread was active. A recent great discovery was South Central Cartel's All Day Everyday.

Most Scientifically Beautiful Face (President Keyes), Saturday, 18 July 2015 00:56 (eight years ago) link

Recently I've been listening to Welcome to the Navy by DB tha General and Heroin Music by Lil Blood, not classics like most of the stuff mentioned in this thread but both really good.

grant holt (prettylikealaindelon), Saturday, 18 July 2015 17:49 (eight years ago) link

yo it would be great if al^somedude could do the bulk of the listening and commenting work and i could just assist him.

dylannn, Tuesday, 21 July 2015 06:04 (eight years ago) link

No one weighed in on jack artist so I'm switching mine to sacramento's own Mozzy and I guess his most recent album "bladadah"

supreme problematics (D-40), Tuesday, 21 July 2015 06:56 (eight years ago) link

d-40 this is dark!

dylannn, Tuesday, 21 July 2015 21:08 (eight years ago) link

http://imgur.com/mP9npRf.jpg

and so blankfaced violent, dispassionate violent. violence as the core of the whole thing, not part of a dope game organizational capability to defend (opening track quotes ) and convincingly threaten or streets is chaos stay strapped or you might be taken under. just every hook KILL A NIGGA ROCK HIS ASS WITH THE SEMI-type thing ("cold body" ft kunta) mozzy has like this ultra hd first person shooter feel, hunting through the streets with like the album cover ak dripping blood. KILL HIM ON SIGHT / RISK DOING LIFE / MIGHT BE ABLE TO WIGGLE IF THEY DO IT RIGHT ("body 4 body"). especially without the backstory, the story about meaningless local beef oak park mack road vines of guys getting stomped at the mall, it's technically good with the flow and clean dark beats but the impression can be of mozzy as death squad middle manager, leading a morning pep rally to a team of shooters in khaki slacks and polo shirts leading a chant of NIGGA I KILL EVERYBODY ("nike" ft nelco). there's no specific target just corpses and the ones that got away for now. without cracking a smile showing much humanity, even on the tracks he's supposed to just bleak loading up the clip emptying the clip loading up the clip emptying the clip, putting the 40 in true religion jeans and going to sit outside someone's mama's house. rating: it's okay, technically proficient flow without any idiosyncrasy or much emotion. few guests offer shot of personality to bleakness. not really my thing.

dylannn, Tuesday, 21 July 2015 21:36 (eight years ago) link

thanks dylannn. always love your posts. now i wanna hear mozzy. can i go way obvious and suggest vince staples 'summertime '06'?

Yelploaf, Thursday, 23 July 2015 19:42 (eight years ago) link


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