The dylannn (west coast hip-hop) listening club

i figured he must be an old legend. he sounds goofy on this beside jacka and husalah and ap9.

and yeah feel free to just go with them once i listen to the last one.

http://img164.imageshack.us/img164/7224/husalahmollywoppin.jpg

favorite rapper this week

Husalah is great

heres my favorite cut off his solo album that deej put me on a while back
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZC6zNLDRDN0

Husalah's dope. I love his album "Huslin since the 80s" (which I believe I heard of from deej)

lol xpost

ha

I also like Messy Marv but I think i'm alone on that

ahem i believe you mean "the boyboy young mess"

the boyboy young me$$ iirc

http://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQhM0L9a9lv7zAZ0TDeV_9PSNKsRrzX_myn8zfCMOSzry42GEjKOg

yeah hus def steals the show on that comp

my favorite track is 'ways and means' tho

K im trading marv off my Madden team gettin rid of my Marv music when i get home due to that name

marv is a total self-destructive asshole in general, that name is somehow the least of his transgressions

also, yo lemme get in on this spottie

You're on the list.

Rev he's ready so you're up.

ok ok

B-Legit - The Hemp Museum, but only if u smokes big with Rider and Gary Payton

keepin' it in the bay, nice choice!

i feel as if dylannn will fuck with b-legit. possibly end up liking him more than e-40 idk

I could def see that.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WVPFGMPJZ-A

what is the source of that over the top bay area sound like some tracks off the mob figaz album, the turf talk/keak i've heard, mac dre?

i'm sure "gotta buy dope from us" and a few other tracks i know these from screw mixes also

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AeqL6kjMskU

^^^^^^^^ classic imho

alright let me find my xacto wrap this popcorn up and get back in it

These screw joints are cool.

Which specific sound you talking about xp?

extremely dense beats, drums that sound sort of digital and slightly distorted and really snappy handclaps and other trebly snaps on the top of it, shit that sounds like sirens going off the whole time-- that doesn't describe all of it but i just mean NOISY. "ways and means" is the best example off the mob trial album, i think, and like, "white t-shirt blue jeans and nikes," what i imagine to the mid-2000s bay area sound.

Studio Ton maybe...
http://a1yola.com/producers/studio-ton/

inhouse producer for loads of 90s Sick Wid It records

Tone Capone as well

b-legit - the hemp museum

man sorry. i've got nothin to say about this. i made a claim that if i made a list of my 100 favorite rap albums i'd have nothing from the south on there unless i really needed to fill space and i put on doggystyle but this would definitely be on there. this is the sound i love, the same bass and whine that came to houston, got slowed down a little, imagine anyone from yungstar to keke on the same beats. that bay area 96 sound is the template for all the houston classics like "tops drop," "realest rhymin." all these beats would sound right on sailin da south-- the one exception i guess is "gotta buy your dope from us," which if i knew anything about-- ah fuck, man the problem with doing this is i like writing about shit i know about, so i feel so nervous hearing "gotta buy your dope from us" as some proto-hyphy shit the forerunner of the turn of the century big beat bay area sound, but i don't know the history at all but it reminds me of that. b-legit is... i dunno, love that slightly mushmouth but flow is near perfection style. this is a classic.

if there's anybody out there who doesn't know about west coast rap or never heard it

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=shZ6C75eRrY

i mean

Yeah this sound runs parallel with the suave house sound. Probably a little more emphasis on live bass slaps out west where the SH sound rolled a little smoother and deeper

Love Daryl Hall on this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cufAvrEtuuU
his guitar fits perfect in the mix too

extremely dense beats, drums that sound sort of digital and slightly distorted and really snappy handclaps and other trebly snaps on the top of it, shit that sounds like sirens going off the whole time-- that doesn't describe all of it but i just mean NOISY. "ways and means" is the best example off the mob trial album, i think, and like, "white t-shirt blue jeans and nikes," what i imagine to the mid-2000s bay area sound.

You talking about hyphy? Does this fit?:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KOmuejuRdws

yeah, that's basically what i'm talking about.

Blackalicious - Blazing Arrow!

Or is this for contemporary west coast hip hop?

i love b-legit's flow.

Blackalicious - Blazing Arrow!

Or is this for contemporary west coast hip hop?

― octobeard, Tuesday, July 9, 2013 6:27 PM (47 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

read the OP, if you want to get in line I'll sign you up. Any era of west coast hip hop goes. Just whatever you think dylannn would like or whatever you'd be interested in hearing his thoughts on.

Also some dude feel free to jump in on these as well as I think it would be cool to read a couple different angles.

OP of this thread is blowing my mind

oh is it confusing?

Also shakey I'm signing you up cos this is your wheelhouse. You have no choice in the matter btw.

lol no it's not confusing just the whole dismissal of entire subgenre thing

was thinking of preparing some long response to the pimping thing upthread (ie Too $hort) but don't have time at the moment

Yeah I was v surprised given how extensive his knowledge is in other regions of hh. xp

Yeah I havent had a chunk of time to respond to that yet either but I didnt want it to go undiscussed like it has.

like, i guess it's including authenticity as a big part of evaluating something + being convinced
by the authenticity of the lyrics and persona + having a visceral reaction to the realities of farming out pussy to paying customers. like i said, i found my reaction to be wrongheaded and i definitely understand the character of the pimp, the history of it, what sort of persona suga free is trying to create, and my own personal attitude about slapping broads and shit on records is fairly liberal-- i was just temporarily shocked by the ugliness of it, just settin there thinking about it, letting the first track play.

even if i was feeling suga free by the end of it, the character of the pimp, the ruthless trickster that uses his lyrical game to control broads, dressed up right head tight... it really doesn't appeal to me, personally. i dunno. suga free seems kind of effeminate to me.

oh yeah the effeminate thing for sure, them dudes are pretty. Quik used to get thrown at him as well.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p9Rnwi5w-oA

I dont think you were wrongheaded to look at it that way and it sounds like my rec played into your pre-concieved negative connotations of the genre, like well here we go siiiigh.

these blackalicious aren't pimps too, are they?

"gift of gab"

ha no, FAAAAAr from pimps

are you gonna listen to that one?

I just scanned to see what was mentioned. Feel like I know a ton more 90s West Coast stuff now than I did back when this thread was active. A recent great discovery was South Central Cartel's All Day Everyday.

Recently I've been listening to Welcome to the Navy by DB tha General and Heroin Music by Lil Blood, not classics like most of the stuff mentioned in this thread but both really good.

yo it would be great if al^somedude could do the bulk of the listening and commenting work and i could just assist him.

No one weighed in on jack artist so I'm switching mine to sacramento's own Mozzy and I guess his most recent album "bladadah"

d-40 this is dark!

http://imgur.com/mP9npRf.jpg

and so blankfaced violent, dispassionate violent. violence as the core of the whole thing, not part of a dope game organizational capability to defend (opening track quotes ) and convincingly threaten or streets is chaos stay strapped or you might be taken under. just every hook KILL A NIGGA ROCK HIS ASS WITH THE SEMI-type thing ("cold body" ft kunta) mozzy has like this ultra hd first person shooter feel, hunting through the streets with like the album cover ak dripping blood. KILL HIM ON SIGHT / RISK DOING LIFE / MIGHT BE ABLE TO WIGGLE IF THEY DO IT RIGHT ("body 4 body"). especially without the backstory, the story about meaningless local beef oak park mack road vines of guys getting stomped at the mall, it's technically good with the flow and clean dark beats but the impression can be of mozzy as death squad middle manager, leading a morning pep rally to a team of shooters in khaki slacks and polo shirts leading a chant of NIGGA I KILL EVERYBODY ("nike" ft nelco). there's no specific target just corpses and the ones that got away for now. without cracking a smile showing much humanity, even on the tracks he's supposed to just bleak loading up the clip emptying the clip loading up the clip emptying the clip, putting the 40 in true religion jeans and going to sit outside someone's mama's house. rating: it's okay, technically proficient flow without any idiosyncrasy or much emotion. few guests offer shot of personality to bleakness. not really my thing.

thanks dylannn. always love your posts. now i wanna hear mozzy. can i go way obvious and suggest vince staples 'summertime '06'?