Dennis Wilson - Pacific Ocean Blue

at last at last at laaaast

didn't even have to read the story, just saw the link & max's rxn and it was on

So excellent.

It's about time now it's about time now
It's about time now don't you know now

Not too early.

Looks like it's too late to make any money from it then. I have the original CD issue. Cool that's it's coming with all the Bamboo tracks.

That's 2008's Reissue Of The Year award pretty much sewn up I reckon. Can't wait for this - especially to hear all the Bamboo stuff.

xpost Ebay it RIGHT NOW!

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http://www.amazon.co.uk/Pacific-Ocean-Blue-Dennis-Wilson/dp/B000008MDK

5 used and new available from £117

go now!

One went recently on ebay for £54.

.. and that's an actual sale, those amazon ones are not necessarily selling at that price.

I bought the cassette of the 1992 reissue out of Virgin at the time and it cost me £6.99. Obviously it's just as well I hung onto it.

£50-£60 sounds about right for Ebay. As Mark G said that's an actual sale, the ones on Amazon are just chancing their arm. I haven't sold it thus far so it's unlikely I'm going to rush and do it now that the news is out of the official release.

Strangely as much as I'm a big fan of the Beach Boys and Dennis's tracks on their albums I don't think this album is THAT good. It's scarcity has allowed it to be regarded as better than it actually is (just checked above and looks like my opinion hasn't changed much, that's me posting as mms above back in 2003!)

Great news! Thanks a lot for the sharp eye - gotta ton of friends that are going to geek out on this and through their bad cdrs out the window! The 'Bambu' stuff should be a fun and interesting listen, too

Well, news being "out" is one thing, it won't actually be out for a while.

Also, news travels slowly. If I had a CD that was worth that now, but will drop off in a month, I'd do it now. You only need two bidders, you know.

Of course, you may want to be keeping that one, and not be bothered about the expanded reissue.

sucks...I have one of those CD's too, and will probably just hang on to it...

once this comes out i'm going to sell everything except POB and John Phillips solo jam and live on the beach...oh, and i'll need a boombox, too.

is the "LADY/Fallin' In Love" single gonna be on the POB reissue?? i only recently heard it, it's so beautiful. i love this video as well
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lyarfNQ4tOg

*swoon*

Great news -- "He's A Bum" seems like a great song, but the quality on the bootlegs is so nth-generation, it's nearly unlistenable.

is the "LADY/Fallin' In Love" single gonna be on the POB reissue?? i only recently heard it, it's so beautiful.

That's from the 1971 Landlocked sessions so probably not.

What happened to the reissue? Was it released on May 13 and nobody reviewed or mentioned it?

I saw it mentioned in a handful of places.

I think pfork gave it a 10

lol. I just saw that it's release is June 17. I guess they changed it.

now all we need is buckingham nicks

You may get it.

i don't like this album.

:(

searing, detailed criticism there

well, i dunno - everyone bangs on about how amazing it is, and well it just sounds like run of the mill 70s aor.

I know what you mean

i think dennis's later singing voice is my least favourite of all of them. even the supposedly gorgeous stuff on Carl & The Passions is ruined by the fact it sounds like he's lying on his deathbed smoking high-tar cigars and cheese grating his own scrotum.

it just sounds like run of the mill 70s aor

What's some top-notch 70s AOR then grozart?

Ha! I know what you're saying but it's the damage that helps make "Make It Good" and "Cuddle Up" so great.

Things like "Thoughts Of You" don't really have any parallels in '70s AoR though.

Actually if you listen to his fills on "The Girls On The Beach" he had that 100-a-day voice as far back as '63!

Just bought this on Itunes and so far I'm a bit underwhelmed. This is my first listen so I'm sure it will grow on me a bit- I must say "Thoughts of You" is stunning, especially the middle part. I'm also digging "Time." I haven't gotten to any of the Bambu stuff yet.
For whatever reason, the drummer from the Foo Fighters sings on the last track.

Maybe it's the production that's bothering me so far, I love the stripped down vibe of Dennis's tunes on Friends and 20/20 and Sunflower.

Actually, this is growing on me by the minute!

I just bought this disc and I really enjoy it (full disclosure: I have a real soft spot for that 70s West Coast rock sound, aside from The Eagles, obv.). I was hoping it would include a song called Carry Me Home, which I'm pretty sure is a Dennis Wilson song, but alas, it doesn't. It's the song where, at the end, Wilson is singing about how he "wants to go home," and it would be okay if he was "taken home." He's obviously talking about death. A really powerful, moving song. Anyway, I'm disappointed that it isn't on Pacific Ocean Blue. Anyone know this song, or know what album it appears on? Thanks.

It Won't Be Long -- from the unfinished Bambu disc -- is a stunner.

I guess Dennis Wilson reminds me of his brothers. But who he really reminds me of on Pacific Ocean Blue is Chris Bell (Big Star), on his one solo disc, I Am The Cosmos.

Sorry for multiple posts. Just totally enjoying this, and finally unwinding after a week of emergency projects.

now all we need is buckingham nicks

Probably won't get that until Lindsey is dead and can't stand in the way.

destro: they put out that dennis wilson album officially
deej: yes
destro: and remastered it so the cymbals cut like a hot razor
destro: as usual
deej: too bad
destro: i have the lossless rip of the japanese CD that sounds like it's by a wilson brother
destro: i guess they thought that when he made his music sound thick and lush and warm, it was a studio error
destro: what he REALLY meant to do was make a ride cymbal sound like a broken radiator
destro: he just lacked the skills to do so
destro: so theyve done him a favor

I was hoping it would include a song called Carry Me Home,

I love this song, but it wasn't a part of either album: P.O.B or Bambu. It was actually going to be a Beach Boys song. That's why it's not there. Apparently, if this does well, there's the possibility of a collection of outtakes and demos. That would most definitely have "Carry Me Home."

By "It Won't Be Long" I assume you mean "It's Not Too Late?"

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destro: i have the lossless rip of the japanese CD that sounds like it's by a wilson brother

^^ this version is mastered better than the american cd?

thats what hes sayin yeah - but the japanese version is old, its not part of the same reissue

this guy im quoting my convo w/ is a friend of mine who does post sound as, like, his job so hes a bit aspie about it but i also find hes right.

he said its possible the vinyl pressing of the reissue was mastered differently, although sometimes its just the same job pressed to vinyl.

have not heard the re-issue yet, but "Companion" from Bambu is an in-fucking-credible song-- just sayin'...

By "It Won't Be Long" I assume you mean "It's Not Too Late?"

Right. If not the best song I've heard this year, certainly the most moving song I've heard this year. It reminds me that as interesting as experimental music is, there's always a place for conventional, straightforward songs. It also reminds me how powerful simple lyrics can be. I love Craig Finn's lyrics, for instance, but there's just nothing like hearing Wilson -- in that raw, desperate voice -- sing "Please don't be long/No no no no, it won't be long." Just an breathtaking performance. I bought Smile, and I like it a lot (except for some cringeworthy lyrics), but after spending some time with Pacific Ocean Blue this week, I think it's heads-and-shoulders above that other "lost classic."

OTOHWTFdoiknow?nothingthat'swhat.

i hear the cymbal thing deej's friend is talking about but i wouldnt have picked up on it otherwise and i dont think it's really a distraction or anything

smile is way better than this fwiw

his voice is 100% part of the appeal

i love blasting this song while i'm driving around la

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iMHiYrnYx64

got this today. is it bad if on first listen I like the Bambu sessions better than POB (though I do like that one too)?

my favorite song is on the bambu sessions (it's not too late) and i adore POB.

"It's Not Too Late" is gutting. the desperation just drips from his voice on that one.

Returning to this reissue this week as my car can only play CDs for the moment and I pulled this out.

There are really only a few songs in POB proper that sound purely 70s MOR – "What's Wrong," "You and I" and maybe one or two others. The rest tend toward really plodding, heavy orchestration, peculiar textural choices (such as the bass harmonicas and blaring brass on "Dreamer") and modal chord voicings that create something that is both bombastic and delicate – often at the same time. There is also an undeniable alcoholic sentimentality slathering almost everything here.

So I understand if this record isn't for everyone. Some may find it scattered or unremarkable. But for my part, I love its singularity and shamelessly big hearted and ramshackle nature – qualities I think aren't so much enhanced by the Bambu stuff as underscored.