― Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 14 December 2005 20:06 (eighteen years ago) link
How would we think of his (their) career if you take Riot out of the picture?
I don't think it would effect his reputation in the slightest. Look at all the "Buy the best of" comments in the thread. Sly's rep is totally made from his hit singles, and Riot only contains "Family Affair", all the others came before it. As much as I love the album, the general population isn't basing their love of him on that record.
I totally agree. I was more trying to counter the people who said Fresh was not a drop from previous records.
― Mitya (mitya), Wednesday, 14 December 2005 20:12 (eighteen years ago) link
Cool description. I actually listen to Fresh more than Stand
― QuantumNoise (Justin Farrar), Wednesday, 14 December 2005 20:34 (eighteen years ago) link
― Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 14 December 2005 21:02 (eighteen years ago) link
None of which is to say I don't like it. In fact one of my favorites on the elpee.
― Mitya (mitya), Thursday, 15 December 2005 19:06 (eighteen years ago) link
And they were an inspiration for Miles Davis's On the Corner, if I'm correct...
― Naive Teen Idol (Naive Teen Idol), Thursday, 15 December 2005 19:52 (eighteen years ago) link
― sweet earth flying (sweet earth flying), Thursday, 15 December 2005 20:08 (eighteen years ago) link
― Dr.C, Friday, 16 December 2005 10:47 (eighteen years ago) link
― We Buy a Hammer For Dadaismus (Dada), Friday, 16 December 2005 10:53 (eighteen years ago) link
― Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 16 December 2005 15:40 (eighteen years ago) link
― sweet earth flying (sweet earth flying), Friday, 16 December 2005 18:12 (eighteen years ago) link
― sweet earth flying (sweet earth flying), Friday, 16 December 2005 19:22 (eighteen years ago) link
-- howell huser (chaki.tim...), December 14th, 2005.
OTM
― sweet earth flying (sweet earth flying), Friday, 16 December 2005 19:23 (eighteen years ago) link
― We Buy a Hammer For Dadaismus (Dada), Friday, 16 December 2005 19:25 (eighteen years ago) link
― oops (Oops), Friday, 16 December 2005 20:12 (eighteen years ago) link
― howell huser (chaki), Friday, 16 December 2005 20:14 (eighteen years ago) link
Instrumentation is kinda blah
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― sweet earth flying (sweet earth flying), Friday, 16 December 2005 20:17 (eighteen years ago) link
― sweet earth flying (sweet earth flying), Friday, 16 December 2005 20:18 (eighteen years ago) link
-natin'
― sweet earth flying (sweet earth flying), Friday, 16 December 2005 20:25 (eighteen years ago) link
― oops (Oops), Friday, 16 December 2005 20:28 (eighteen years ago) link
― sweet earth flying (sweet earth flying), Friday, 16 December 2005 20:31 (eighteen years ago) link
― oops (Oops), Friday, 16 December 2005 20:36 (eighteen years ago) link
that fairly well sums up my feelings, too.
― oops (Oops), Friday, 16 December 2005 20:38 (eighteen years ago) link
― oops (Oops), Friday, 16 December 2005 20:39 (eighteen years ago) link
― sweet earth flying (sweet earth flying), Friday, 16 December 2005 20:44 (eighteen years ago) link
i think its a case of you having no soul!
― howell huser (chaki), Friday, 16 December 2005 20:50 (eighteen years ago) link
xpost do you mean soul in the Motown sense or in the Grim Reaper sense? cause I'm with you on the latter.
― oops (Oops), Friday, 16 December 2005 20:54 (eighteen years ago) link
So when I hear it know it's like someone set the studio to "generic funk" and Fresh was cranked out
What strikes me is that despite the fact that hundreds of nominally similar-sounding albums have been made since, Fresh still sounds like the best jazz-funk album ever. It sounds like what the Headhunters were going for when Mike Clark was in the band, except more thought-out, darker and with amazing vocals instead of keyboard jams.
― Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 16 December 2005 21:02 (eighteen years ago) link
― k/l (Ken L), Friday, 16 December 2005 21:05 (eighteen years ago) link
― Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 16 December 2005 21:11 (eighteen years ago) link
― howell huser (chaki), Friday, 16 December 2005 21:15 (eighteen years ago) link
― oops (Oops), Friday, 16 December 2005 21:19 (eighteen years ago) link
― oops (Oops), Friday, 16 December 2005 21:22 (eighteen years ago) link
― Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 16 December 2005 21:23 (eighteen years ago) link
sly's catalog desperately desperately needs some serious remastering/deluxe edition treatment. Riot is still in that lame packaging (at least in the US)...and they left the title track off the cd!
and anyone know what happened to that live set that was supposed to come out a couple years ago? did sly personally nix it?
― Lawrence the Looter (Lawrence the Looter), Friday, 16 December 2005 21:27 (eighteen years ago) link
ive never been more otm
― howell huser (chaki), Friday, 16 December 2005 21:29 (eighteen years ago) link
― oops (Oops), Friday, 16 December 2005 21:29 (eighteen years ago) link
― oops (Oops), Friday, 16 December 2005 21:30 (eighteen years ago) link
― howell huser (chaki), Friday, 16 December 2005 21:31 (eighteen years ago) link
― oops (Oops), Friday, 16 December 2005 21:33 (eighteen years ago) link
― howell huser (chaki), Friday, 16 December 2005 21:35 (eighteen years ago) link
I've never heard any of the records after Fresh.
― Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 16 December 2005 21:38 (eighteen years ago) link
― k/l (Ken L), Friday, 16 December 2005 21:43 (eighteen years ago) link
― sweet earth flying (sweet earth flying), Friday, 16 December 2005 21:47 (eighteen years ago) link
― howell huser (chaki), Friday, 16 December 2005 21:48 (eighteen years ago) link
― oops (Oops), Friday, 16 December 2005 21:51 (eighteen years ago) link
― oops (Oops), Friday, 16 December 2005 21:54 (eighteen years ago) link
― howell huser (chaki), Friday, 16 December 2005 21:55 (eighteen years ago) link
― sweet earth flying (sweet earth flying), Friday, 16 December 2005 21:55 (eighteen years ago) link
It's the personal, sort of optimistic twin to Riot IMO. It's an album I want to make the whole world listen to and then I want them to fill out questionnaires about it and if I think you don't get its greatness, you'll listen again and again. Because its beautiful and sad and happy and funky and weird and that goddamn BASS and those fucking DRUMS man.
― Lawsonomy Domine (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Sunday, 23 October 2016 01:50 (seven years ago) link
Their best album.
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 23 October 2016 01:57 (seven years ago) link
Eno otm about the centrality of the rhythm. Another Green World's "Over Fire Island" sounds like a product of this album.
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 23 October 2016 01:58 (seven years ago) link
My favourite Sly. Especially (as I've doubtless said already in this thread) the later mix that Sony accidentally pressed on CD in 91.
― Robby Mook (stevie), Sunday, 23 October 2016 11:00 (seven years ago) link
You are all right. And we need a deluxe 2cd version with both mixes and whatever else they can find. I'd pay for a third disc of just isolated drum and bass tracks.
― Lawsonomy Domine (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Sunday, 23 October 2016 12:25 (seven years ago) link
I'd be happy if someone just pressed that alt mix on vinyl
― Robby Mook (stevie), Sunday, 23 October 2016 12:33 (seven years ago) link