Macklemore, "Same Love"

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Tracer: I have a really long half-written post that I'll try to finish later tonight. That's probably why I haven't explained myself well before is because my thoughts on this matter are so lengthy.

s. cloverlandthug (The Reverend), Wednesday, 21 August 2013 01:25 (ten years ago) link

yes!

first I think it's time I kick a little verse! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 21 August 2013 01:26 (ten years ago) link

kick in the door waivin' the fourfour

some dude, Wednesday, 21 August 2013 01:29 (ten years ago) link

does living in Washington make the Macklemore phenomenon more unbearable, or does it make u slightly more sympathetic to him/his fans than you would be otherwise? or both?

Coming Out Of Elton John's Mouth (crüt), Wednesday, 21 August 2013 01:33 (ten years ago) link

that's a general question to anyone who lives in the pacific nw really - I'm just curious about what it's like living there and experiencing this whole thing, I imagine it's p different from atlanta

Coming Out Of Elton John's Mouth (crüt), Wednesday, 21 August 2013 01:37 (ten years ago) link

both probably? I'll have more to say about this later the weird thing about Macklemore's place in the current landscape here is that the Seattle rap scene is really healthy and diverse right now but Mack is kind of a relic of a previous era. A lot of the young rappers in Seattle are quite explicit about not fucking with Macklemore but most of the people who came up in the early/mid-2000s are his peers and have his back 100%.

s. cloverlandthug (The Reverend), Wednesday, 21 August 2013 01:41 (ten years ago) link

haha, they're the dudes he used to open for, basically

s. cloverlandthug (The Reverend), Wednesday, 21 August 2013 01:42 (ten years ago) link

kick in the door waivin' the fourfour

― some dude, Tuesday, August 20, 2013 6:29 PM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

not gonna let this post go unacknowledged

s. cloverlandthug (The Reverend), Wednesday, 21 August 2013 01:45 (ten years ago) link

XD

some dude, Wednesday, 21 August 2013 01:46 (ten years ago) link

haven't read the gawker piece but i gave up on juzwiak a while ago

k3vin k., Wednesday, 21 August 2013 01:51 (ten years ago) link

The only valuable thing he's done in the past couple years is the glossary of Mariah-isms.

s. cloverlandthug (The Reverend), Wednesday, 21 August 2013 02:02 (ten years ago) link

i still ride for for Def Juz

i'm walter white btw (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, 21 August 2013 02:48 (ten years ago) link

i have no problem with him but since getting w/ Gawker he writes about a lot less stuff that interests me and seems to write a lot more that actively pisses off other people for various reasons

some dude, Wednesday, 21 August 2013 02:55 (ten years ago) link

He has better taste in dance music than anyone else. I don't really care what he thinks about Macklemore. I don't really care what anyone thinks about Macklemore.

Boven is het stil (Eric H.), Wednesday, 21 August 2013 02:57 (ten years ago) link

no wait just hear me out

lag∞n, Wednesday, 21 August 2013 03:03 (ten years ago) link

He has better taste in dance music than anyone else.

*recoils sharply*

s. cloverlandthug (The Reverend), Wednesday, 21 August 2013 03:34 (ten years ago) link

Yeah, I still remember that argument too.

Boven is het stil (Eric H.), Wednesday, 21 August 2013 03:40 (ten years ago) link

i still like rjuz but he def seems to have gotten a lil more bitter at how ppl lash out at him. which, i dunno, i see as kind of understandable

rap steve gadd (D-40), Wednesday, 21 August 2013 04:04 (ten years ago) link

I've been a fan of his writing in the past--his Pazz & Jop essay on pop's pandering to gay audiences in the It Gets Better era is essential--but he seems to write a lot about things like reality television that no amount of good writing could possibly force me to care about.

the vineyards where the grapes of corporate rock are stored (cryptosicko), Wednesday, 21 August 2013 04:16 (ten years ago) link

For a second I was all "I cannot imagine Macklemore's Pazz and Jop essay being all THAT essential."

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 21 August 2013 04:18 (ten years ago) link

ctrl + f "mackleless" -- not found?!

― festival culture (Jordan), Wednesday, August 14, 2013 12:01 PM (1 week ago) Bookmark

lol.

i wanna be a gabbneb baby (Hungry4Ass), Wednesday, 21 August 2013 04:21 (ten years ago) link

rj is consistently really just missing basic facts when it comes to race/history/etc. i pointed this out before but in his django piece he referred to a 'dictator of barbados' in the 20th century, which is among other things not true. i don't want to dredge up old shit but this pattern has been going on forever. i understand why people can enjoy his writing at times or whatever, but he just needs to stay the hell away from topics that he's not going to put in the time to engage with properly.

"Dave Barlow" is the name Lou uses on sabermetrics baseball sites (s.clover), Wednesday, 21 August 2013 13:32 (ten years ago) link

That clearly doesn't apply to his columns about his sex life.

Boven is het stil (Eric H.), Wednesday, 21 August 2013 13:35 (ten years ago) link

dude wants to land on the right side, but somehow doesn't put in the work to understand exactly what that side is. there's something knee-jerk about it.

"Dave Barlow" is the name Lou uses on sabermetrics baseball sites (s.clover), Wednesday, 21 August 2013 13:39 (ten years ago) link

tumblr outrage point has finally reached the tipping point on ILX

i'm walter white btw (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, 21 August 2013 14:07 (ten years ago) link

tumblr outrage porn has finally reached the tipping point on ILX

i'm walter white btw (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, 21 August 2013 14:07 (ten years ago) link

tumblr outrage point has finally reached the tipping porn on ILX

OH MY GOD HE'S OOGLY (DJP), Wednesday, 21 August 2013 14:13 (ten years ago) link

porn has finally reached ILX

k3vin k., Wednesday, 21 August 2013 14:18 (ten years ago) link

privilege tipping outrage porn

ILX

how's life, Wednesday, 21 August 2013 14:20 (ten years ago) link

*farts*

waterface, Wednesday, 21 August 2013 14:37 (ten years ago) link

That's one wet fart.

Boven is het stil (Eric H.), Wednesday, 21 August 2013 14:39 (ten years ago) link

does living in Washington make the Macklemore phenomenon more unbearable, or does it make u slightly more sympathetic to him/his fans than you would be otherwise?

― Coming Out Of Elton John's Mouth (crüt)

the latter, oddly.
i end up thinking about place more than race, draw my mixalot parallels in my mind

anky, Thursday, 22 August 2013 06:55 (ten years ago) link

more like mackleless

ienjoyhotdogs, Tuesday, 27 August 2013 15:56 (ten years ago) link

http://colorlines.com/archival_images/le1f03.jpg

lag∞n, Tuesday, 27 August 2013 15:58 (ten years ago) link

i'm all for le1f going after this dude but thought it was weird he accused him of ripping off his song, i guess referring to the horn samples in wut and thrift shop?

congratulations (n/a), Tuesday, 27 August 2013 16:00 (ten years ago) link

http://colorlines.com/archival_mages/le1f06.jpg

youtube comments

lag∞n, Tuesday, 27 August 2013 16:02 (ten years ago) link

kinda weird le1f is just getting around to this now, but i support it

ᶓ͠סּᴥ͠סּᶔ ᶓͼ᷆ₓͼ᷇ᶔ (gr8080), Tuesday, 27 August 2013 16:11 (ten years ago) link

Ehhh. I'm with Le1f on most of this, but not the Thrift Shop/Wut thing. The horns from "Wut" were p much ripped off from "Down for My N's" anyway.

s. cloverlandthug (The Reverend), Tuesday, 27 August 2013 20:10 (ten years ago) link

Speaking of Mix, this is a really good interview with him wkiw http://mynorthwest.com/926/2321465/Macklemore-video-shoot-mania-rekindles-fond-memories-for-Seattles-Sir-MixALot

s. cloverlandthug (The Reverend), Tuesday, 27 August 2013 20:22 (ten years ago) link

(btw sorry, Rev's Big Post of Macklemore Ether is still forthcoming)

s. cloverlandthug (The Reverend), Wednesday, 28 August 2013 00:12 (ten years ago) link

naaw xp

lag∞n, Wednesday, 28 August 2013 00:12 (ten years ago) link

FUCK YOU LAGOON, MACKLEMORE IS THE NEW MLK PUBLIC ENEMY SHOULD WRITE A SONG ABOUT ANY STATE THAT HOLDS OUT ON MACKLEMORE DAY

s. cloverlandthug (The Reverend), Wednesday, 28 August 2013 00:14 (ten years ago) link

what i meant was macklemore is obvs more important than mlk and public enemy should write a song about any state that holds out on macklemore day

lag∞n, Wednesday, 28 August 2013 00:17 (ten years ago) link

i googled and found out that that is an irl student newspaper but i still cant believe the author really meant it

lag∞n, Wednesday, 28 August 2013 00:19 (ten years ago) link

http://24.media.tumblr.com/a6b3d7c369fdbbaa8a72f2e007972703/tumblr_ms7iawjESv1sgt1uko1_1280.png

― s. cloverlandthug (The Reverend), Tuesday, August 27, 2013 8:11 PM (7 minutes ago)

ban college kids

k3vin k., Wednesday, 28 August 2013 00:21 (ten years ago) link

its just a funny joke right

lag∞n, Wednesday, 28 August 2013 00:21 (ten years ago) link

I know we hate Macklemore around here, but dude/his handlers do seem to have gotten the message at least a little bit: at several points during his VMA performance, he ceded the stage to his LGBT backup dancers, Black backup singers, and the former software engineer who sings the hooks on Thrift Shop and Can't Hold Us.

hurricane weather (forapper), Wednesday, 28 August 2013 01:34 (ten years ago) link

I mean of course Le1f is right, esp. about the line he quotes from Same Love. And maybe the only reason Macklemore got off the stage was so he could better commune with his audience. Still I will acknowledge this token effort to address the concerns of his progressive critics.

hurricane weather (forapper), Wednesday, 28 August 2013 01:36 (ten years ago) link


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