"UK GARAGE, MY ARSE!" '50 Ways The Alternative Nation is Fighting Back' 13th anniversary POLL

neither side were grebos or ravers btw.

People at your school actually self-identified as 'grebos'?

no it's what each side called each other.

i think it was deliberately inaccurate. the ravers weren't into raving/dance music (necessarily - mostly listened to chart pop and r'n'b) and the grebos, well, this was some time after New Model Army

The lines were blurred in sixth form when loads of the trendies started getting into ecstasy and dance music.

I thought New Model Army was more crusty than grebo?

i had friends who went to one of the local schools here in the early 90s and according to them at the time it was split between 2 groups: the beautiful people & rockers (who were generally metallers/grungers.) One assumes indie fans were the latter too.

my cousins 17 yr old girl says at her school there's 'rock fans' (which can be Arctic Monkeys to Nirvana) and 'pop fans'.

Yeah, the Grebos listened to anything from Blur to Sepultura, but even Underworld (IIRC) were treated with caution, at least until late GCSEs. For some reason the Ravers thought all the Grebos listened to was Bon Jovi, but that might have been another deliberate misunderstanding designed to annoy them.

I can honestly sayI never ever heard anyone called a grebo up here. Not even the huge group of Hawkwind fans that were a year or 2 older than I was.

I also bet every school here had different terms tan other schools in the area. Terribly parochial up here.

omg look at the CD that came with it

http://www.discogs.com/Various-Born-To-Do-It-Better/release/2665202

UTTER HORROR

xpost yeh it changed from region to region. i know neighbouring schools used the same terms, but go further out and it was all change.

Poll? One Armed Scissor would walk. Didn't even like it that much even then.

i loved atdi. still do

the qotsa is my fave qotsa song though!

omg look at the CD that came with it

http://www.discogs.com/Various-Born-To-Do-It-Better/release/2665202

UTTER HORROR

I like the Lauren Laverne song

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WUWcPGeKjko

lex am I wrong in thinking you thought qotsa were ok once? I think you liked Mark Lanegan?

i don't mind QOTSA (without ever really seeking out their stuff), i'm guessing if forced to choose that would be mine, though i've never heard that specific song

All of those tracks are on youtube with the exception of the My Vitriol and Wilt songs which are both on spotify. I listened to the whole thing for the first time last night.

don't remember reading melody maker at all

there is some awful trash here but i still like a few things

kid a was the best radiohead lp by a furlong and suggestive of musical worlds beyond indie and all of that

primal scream's ~political~ paratext circa y2k seemed thrilingly risible as a 15 yr old and xtrmntr was miraculous ('mbv arkestra' on a #3 album being almost as implausible as to here knows when charting) and a few of my friends became obsessed with it, they were excellent in concert too

saw asian dub foundation and i think atdi around then

jj72 is the only thing i have a residual fondness for even though i would surely find them enervating in the extreme if i had to sit through an lp today

old ilm had the hots for lauren laverne. So much so that DG made a memorable post about how it didn't matter how much ilx posters said they liked Kenickie they were never going to get to fuck her.

this is missing IDLEWILD who were the platonic indie not-quite-feebs of y2k

and muse

they were awful in 2000

btw i want to add that Pitchshifter were terrible by this point in 2000. I even sold my old cds in disgust LOL

of course they were awful but so was idlewild and pretty much everything on this list.

technically they got even worse and lord knows how bad they must be now but in 2000 they were abominable

idlewild's 2000 lp wasn't too bad, they were still ripping off fugazi or husker du at this point

they got a lot worse

the delgados must have reached a peak of respectability around 2000 too

whatever happened to Terris?

the absolute worst uk thing on this list is probably king adora

i started uni in this era and just remember thinking about how terrible the music people were listening to was. most students either listened to gomez and idlewild or terrible Ibiza trance. coming from a very progressive sixth form college it was a very disappointing culture to be absorbed into.

I remember the NME being fairly pro-UKG around this time, positively reviewing a load of stuff, putting So Solid and Craig David on the cover etc. Then again it was trance and superclub house they declared war on.

Amazing how irreleveant most of this stuff turned out to be. I have fond memories of this thread though:

A Hundred Reasons why Hundred Reasons are shite

Especially when one of the band turned up all butthurt.

Relationship of Command is still a massive album. I still play ADF's Community Music now and then, though that was perhaps a bit later?

was king adora the same thing as queen adreena or did they have nothing to do with each other?

I do not remember the Yo-Yo's at all

King Adora were from Birmingham and had a very rabid under 16 female fanbasewho usually liked Rachel Stamp too.

I still quite like king adora

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2LQJUihrBso

super furry animals were also resident indie feeb hierarchs 1997-2003 or whatever

every 'respectable' indie band of that time lived in their shadow

1st couple of SFA albums were great and they were really good live. After those albums they weren't as good.

Grandaddy were popular too. I miss them.

i think i saw grandaddy in 2000
'the crystal lake' was nice

http://www.forum.scallycentral.com/viewtopic.php?p=14398&sid=2fec6801e116574cf66ffb38b3771e9c

i actually saw grandaddy early on in their career supporting sfa

MOSHER GIRL!!! wrote:
ha wrote:
,don't pretend that you don't get scared when you see a group of scallys, i witness this all the time, moshers walkin past scallys and the mosher always seems 2 a)cross the road or b) s h i t themselves..

No i dont think so... obviously you dont go 2 liverpool very often... moshers fight back.... A gang of scalls ran from everyone in liverpool onto a bus and called the police... we wouldnt let them go we stood in front of the bus smashed windows, fucked up the drivers engine ran on the bus n kicked the shit out of them so watch out we arent all little wimps!!!

Wow I think I saw that :shock:

Cool well if you did see it... it was such a good day he he!!!!!!!!!
well it isnt all good any more some scallies have guns now and they tried to shoot my friend :) the nobheads!!! but no problems i can safely say my gun should be shipping soon... well i hope anyway!!

I do not remember the Yo-Yo's at all

― pfunkboy (Algerian Goalkeeper), Friday, October 4, 2013 3:11 PM (16 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

they were a Wildhearts spinoff! they were also my first paid review for a national music publication

members of Honeycrack?

Voted Kelis for somehow slipping through the MM's black music filter. I was obsessed with her when Kaleidoscope came out.

The rest is either horrible or good but described in a horrible way.