"UK GARAGE, MY ARSE!" '50 Ways The Alternative Nation is Fighting Back' 13th anniversary POLL

Contender for most thoughtful and self aware post ever on ILX. Suggest ban.

whatever happened to craig david anyway? lighthouse family and david grey were huge for 1 album and disappeared to (the mm alt nation stuff just disappeared)

I'm fairly sure Bo" Selecta! killed Craig David's career.

I'm voting for 46. DUM DUMS- Taking the boy bands on at their own game. And winning.

http://chartarchive.org/a/dum+dums

They really were winning with those chart positions.

yeah Bo Selecta didn't help him none.

He changed his image so he no longer resembled the puppet

What's amusing me about the Stay Beautiful playlist is that I genuinely thought it was an original early-00s playlist until I saw Lady Gaga in the middle as the one concession to the last decade.

Although if I had a bottomless pit of money and even less self-awareness (and I long every day for both) I would start my own club night with a suspiciously pre-2005 playlist with even less popular appeal than Rachel Stamp apparently have in 2013, so Price is still ahead of me there

oh man if i ran my own club night there wd be about 12 people in there but it wd be the best

That was pretty much what happened with mine.

in retrospect bo selecta was pretty shockingly explicitly racist

it certainly wasn't funny

Funnily enough circa the time of this very MM issue I was very tangentially involved with a group of people running a club night, which clutched at every micro-hype going including some of the ones on this list in a desperate bid not to get kicked out for something more profitable, and still only got 12 people through the door. So I was thinking of figures closer to the 0 mark, but yeah.

Any Brightonians know how well attended Stay Beautiful is these days? (It seems there is one on tonight but don't go just to report back. Ugh, have I been tricked into street-teaming?)

in my limited provincial experience tho (and i have no idea how things work in the bigger cities) running anything like a viable club night involves playing the same obvious demeaning shite week in week out to crowds of music-hating twats who are terrified of anything they don't know

students you mean? or "normal" people?

students probly worse but make up more of the market

I would have thought the more um "meatmarket" clubs made up most of the nightclub market.

esp in provincial towns

if you're suggesting that students and meatmarket clubs are mutually exclusive then this is very offtm, certainly in my experience

oh i wasnt

meatmarkets with different music

Oh the glory days when ILM/Freaky Trigger/Poptimism was on a mission.

there's not many meatmarket clubs per se round here, late pub opening has blurred the lines and the old school clubs are gone - maybe a couple just the other side of the river - but the few functioning nightclubs are catering to a studentish crowd on the whole. also the line between students and any young people in the 18-25 bracket is v. blurry except at the extreme end of the underclasses

on the other hand, the last time i passed thru Wakefield it was like a National Trust heritage site for the 80s

also i probably wasn't clear about the crushing repetition of the playlists - i got no ish with the pop/dance/r'n'b nights, it's the more studenty "another chance to hear the indie canon from 1980 on" shite that crushes the soul

i don't really care, i dunno why i'm dissecting this, everything is tawdry and horrible

dunno that the big cities are really that much different on that front, e.g. through unfortunate empirical research i've discovered that pretty much every indie pop club night across the country is basically the same, london just has a bunch of them. but then i don't know how much that particular kind of homogeneity is really the concern. i'd go to your club though, promise i'll bring at least two friends too.

i mean i don't suppose anyone cares about indie pop nights specifically, but rather that for the most part there are a small number of template for club nights in general and in bigger cities it's just that the number of clubs fitting each template is multiplied.

i struggle(d) to find places that were good to carry on drinking but where the music wasn't interminable was the main thing i think

that and judging people because they like things i don't

i dunno why i'm dissecting this, everything is tawdry and horrible

New board description.

my arse

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How many MM writers pre 95 were still there in 2000?

Or had they all completely buggered off to Uncut/Mojo etc

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UK Garage...in my arse?

50. YOU LOT 1

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