Guess I'm Polling in Love: The Lou Reed Memorial Velvet Underground (and solo material) Ballot Poll Thread

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whoah I never realized those were different, just cross-checked

those Etc, NYC, and And So On boot LPs were crucial to troo kult fans back in the day

sleeve, Wednesday, 6 November 2013 04:27 (ten years ago) link

hey so I started a rough ballot and I hope this is still mostly how it's gonna be:

shakey yr call completely obv (and if you've got ballots where ppl have two different versions of a song on there in different places i guess there's no work around) but i would suggest for tracks where ppl vote for this live version or that live version or the album version or a demo version that you might only allow one vote for the track but if ppl want to specify a specific version they can and then when you roll out the results you note it when you list the totals for that track. basically what they do for remixes on year end polls or w/ a few other artist polls. that way certain tracks don't have their vote watered down or aren't basically competing against themselves. anyhow stoked for this, i'm sure it'll end up velvets top heavy (it should end up velvets top heavy) but i think there will be some great diversity and maybe FACTIONS will emerge. make the rollout as long as possible imo. i mean elton john got a hundred track rollout, would guess you rank the velvets at least equal to elton john. maybe i'm wrong though.

― balls, Wednesday, October 30, 2013 2:47 PM (6 days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

lol you didn't read the elton rollout thread did you

yr suggestion re: various versions sounds good, was mostly waiting til I see ballots to make that kind of call

― Ayn Rand Akbar (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, October 30, 2013 2:57 PM (6 days ago) Bookmark

cuz I am voting for some weirdo versions, just like EIII mentions... I mean, the slow burn Quine tapes version of "Waiting For My Man" is genuinely my favorite!

also there's this weird awesome take of "Guess I'm Falling In Love" from the "And So On" boot LP that I will definitely vote for

Cale & Reed started slugging it out for solo material ballot spots well within my top ten

sleeve, Wednesday, 6 November 2013 04:47 (ten years ago) link

same take but I can't stand the reverb on the VU version

dry version sounds like "after hours" kissin' cousin, reverb version sounds like some shit lou scraped off his shoe on the curb outside the studio

xp

a hard dom is good to find (Edward III), Wednesday, 6 November 2013 04:50 (ten years ago) link

I just found out moe is apparently a tea party crazy nowadays and it's bumming me out

a hard dom is good to find (Edward III), Wednesday, 6 November 2013 05:01 (ten years ago) link

I found that out last week and it bummed me out so bad I didn't mention it here. :(

sweat pea (La Lechera), Wednesday, 6 November 2013 14:51 (ten years ago) link

We created a thread for it three years ago. Not a surprise tbh

the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 6 November 2013 14:52 (ten years ago) link

Actually, no: discussion here: TS: Mo Tucker vs. Ringo Starr

the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 6 November 2013 14:53 (ten years ago) link

Moe's complicated, but awesome. I did this interview with her in 2002:

http://www.metropulse.com/news/2002/feb/14/velvet-undergrounds-moe-tucker-comes-knoxville/?preventMobileRedirect=1.

something of an astrological coup (tipsy mothra), Wednesday, 6 November 2013 14:59 (ten years ago) link

HEre I get to mention again, I met Moe and Sterling when they played Reading Univ.

Mark G, Thursday, 7 November 2013 13:41 (ten years ago) link

Someone needs to get with Moe and ghostwrite an autobiography.

something of an astrological coup (tipsy mothra), Thursday, 7 November 2013 17:40 (ten years ago) link

Why? She can write, you know...

Mark G, Thursday, 7 November 2013 18:11 (ten years ago) link

That would be great, too. Just sort of figure if she was gonna do it she'd have done it by now. Might need someone to talk her into it. Anyway, a project for some enterprising writer. Go to it, kids.

something of an astrological coup (tipsy mothra), Thursday, 7 November 2013 18:33 (ten years ago) link

Four ballots received so far...

cuz I am voting for some weirdo versions, just like EIII mentions... I mean, the slow burn Quine tapes version of "Waiting For My Man" is genuinely my favorite!

this is all fine and good, but bear in mind that insisting that your votes for particular takes of songs be counted separately from other versions basically guarantees that they will not make it into the final results, due to the unlikelihood of anybody else specifying that particular take.

Depending on how the votes come in, I may just tally all the votes for a given song together, while noting that a certain portion of those votes were for various versions, but I dunno, depends on people's ballots really.

Ayn Rand Akbar (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 7 November 2013 21:07 (ten years ago) link

For Metal Machine Music, is it all one thing or do we vote by side?

snoop dogey doge (seandalai), Friday, 8 November 2013 01:03 (ten years ago) link

I was wondering the same thing. Each side seems to pick up exactly where the previous one left off, and it was once released as a single, uninterrupted piece (on 8-track, but still).

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Friday, 8 November 2013 01:36 (ten years ago) link

I find this impossible to vote in, if only because I wouldn't be able to rank the various solo releases, let alone square those against the VU corpus

plus doing weird things like voting for the etc version of "I'm sticking with you"


^^this

Blecch Dreieinigkeitsmoses (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 8 November 2013 02:08 (ten years ago) link

Gonna consider MMM a single piece of music

Ayn Rand Akbar (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 8 November 2013 02:36 (ten years ago) link

btw if you don't vote you are a pussy

Ayn Rand Akbar (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 8 November 2013 02:37 (ten years ago) link

don't settle for lurking

buzza, Friday, 8 November 2013 03:55 (ten years ago) link

All right, my tinnitus-having, Michael-Moorcock-reading friend, you have thrown down the gauntlet. You will see my 50 picks before next Friday.

Blecch Dreieinigkeitsmoses (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 8 November 2013 04:05 (ten years ago) link

Is The Soul of Patrick Lee eligible? Also, who is Adam Miller?!

sweat pea (La Lechera), Friday, 8 November 2013 15:09 (ten years ago) link

lol @ buzza

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Friday, 8 November 2013 15:33 (ten years ago) link

Four ballots received so far...

cuz I am voting for some weirdo versions, just like EIII mentions... I mean, the slow burn Quine tapes version of "Waiting For My Man" is genuinely my favorite!

this is all fine and good, but bear in mind that insisting that your votes for particular takes of songs be counted separately from other versions basically guarantees that they will not make it into the final results, due to the unlikelihood of anybody else specifying that particular take.

Depending on how the votes come in, I may just tally all the votes for a given song together, while noting that a certain portion of those votes were for various versions, but I dunno, depends on people's ballots really.

― Ayn Rand Akbar (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 7 November 2013 21:07 (Yesterday) Permalink

hi Shakey what I was trying to say there was yes, please count all the different versions together. That way I can vote for my fave weirdo live version of a classic song and it gets counted.

sleeve, Friday, 8 November 2013 16:04 (ten years ago) link

does moe have a chance at placing anything in this poll? i've never really heard any of her solo stuff. is there a consensus for her best song?

― reckless woo (Z S), Friday, November 1, 2013 6:12 PM (1 week ago)

love this one

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MI9zyWu_POk

CANONICAL artists, etc., etc. (contenderizer), Friday, 8 November 2013 16:14 (ten years ago) link

Is The Soul of Patrick Lee eligible?

As noted upthread, collabs with non-VU members are acceptable so yes. Don't pass up this rare opportunity to vote for the entirety of Wrong Way Up!

Ayn Rand Akbar (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 8 November 2013 17:14 (ten years ago) link

I feel like you're kidding but

you can get fuckstab anywhere in london (wins), Friday, 8 November 2013 17:51 (ten years ago) link

not entirely kidding - it just happened to be what I'm listening to at the moment. it's not bad but it's not really good either.

Ayn Rand Akbar (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 8 November 2013 17:53 (ten years ago) link

it's not bad but it's not really good either.

bullllshiiiiiittttt

emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Friday, 8 November 2013 18:12 (ten years ago) link

Spinning Away is way up there for me

sleeve, Friday, 8 November 2013 18:28 (ten years ago) link

got a couple more ballots in, keep em coming

Ayn Rand Akbar (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 8 November 2013 18:31 (ten years ago) link

I'm almost done. Road testing my list during my walks to/from work today. SO FAR SO GOOD! Spinning Away totes gonna make my list too. Love that song.

sweat pea (La Lechera), Friday, 8 November 2013 18:50 (ten years ago) link

Hoping/planning to work on my ballot over the weekend and send it Sunday or Monday.

He got...JACKED UP!!!!! (WilliamC), Friday, 8 November 2013 18:56 (ten years ago) link

Working through Angus Maclise today, think I'll vote for Chumlum at the very least.

famous for hits! (seandalai), Friday, 8 November 2013 18:57 (ten years ago) link

"Sun Blindness Music" will probably make it; gonna re-listen to the Cale/Sterling duo, too.

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Friday, 8 November 2013 18:58 (ten years ago) link

I can't even wrack my brain into thinking of Wrong Way Up options.

the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 8 November 2013 19:01 (ten years ago) link

Working through Angus Maclise today, think I'll vote for Chumlum at the very least.

― famous for hits! (seandalai), Friday, November 8, 2013 10:57 AM

damn I forgot about Universal Solar Calendar, that is my jam

sleeve, Friday, 8 November 2013 19:07 (ten years ago) link

gonna re-listen to the Cale/Sterling duo, too.

"Stainless Steel Gamelan" is on my ballot.

famous for hits! (seandalai), Friday, 8 November 2013 19:38 (ten years ago) link

It's pretty fascinating how those records point to later Velvets tracks (even stuff Cale's not on, e.g., "Sun Blindness Music" --> "What Goes On").

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Friday, 8 November 2013 20:04 (ten years ago) link

for your ballot consideration, all 40 minutes of Sweet Sister Ray (edit URL):

hxxp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MFaOyQbDTKs

sleeve, Saturday, 9 November 2013 02:19 (ten years ago) link

couple more ballots in over the weekend, keep 'em coming...

Ayn Rand Akbar (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 11 November 2013 17:25 (ten years ago) link

I didn't include any wrong way up stuff cause the album feels more eno than cale

iatee, Monday, 11 November 2013 17:28 (ten years ago) link

Voted! Decided to leave off "Spinning Away" for the same reason iatee said, but I did include "Cordoba" as it's obviously a Cale track.

famous for hits! (seandalai), Tuesday, 12 November 2013 01:00 (ten years ago) link

c'mon guys we have to at least get the ballots into double digits here

Ayn Rand Akbar (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 12 November 2013 19:50 (ten years ago) link

You gave us until Friday. There is a lot of material to sift through.

Pazz & Jop 1280 (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 12 November 2013 19:54 (ten years ago) link

which I'm sure none of you have ever listened to before lol

Ayn Rand Akbar (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 12 November 2013 20:00 (ten years ago) link

I'm sending you mine asap but that moment hasn't happened yet!

I hope there is a strong showing for Lady Godiva's Operation even if it ends poorly. The first few verses are sublime and then it's kinda funny when Lou pops in to hork his lines SWEETLY.

sweat pea (La Lechera), Tuesday, 12 November 2013 20:09 (ten years ago) link

He sounds like a zitty teenager next to John Cale.

sweat pea (La Lechera), Tuesday, 12 November 2013 20:10 (ten years ago) link

i love that part

Tip from Tae Kwon Do: (crüt), Tuesday, 12 November 2013 20:14 (ten years ago) link

the first time i heard it it scared the bejeezus out of me. it still does sometimes.

Tip from Tae Kwon Do: (crüt), Tuesday, 12 November 2013 20:14 (ten years ago) link

the whole song is pretty spooky, the thump thump heartbeat/surgery theme and all
i love it

sweat pea (La Lechera), Tuesday, 12 November 2013 20:16 (ten years ago) link


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