Just sent from my irl email. Lou beating Nico by a nose for solo supremacy.
― A Made Man In The Mellow Mafia (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 15 November 2013 20:20 (ten years ago) link
Sent. Voted for 30 tracks - 20 Velvets, and the rest split between Lou and John.
― ruth rendell writing as (askance johnson), Friday, 15 November 2013 20:28 (ten years ago) link
for ref:
― Ayn Rand Akbar (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, November 15, 2013 3:11 PM (17 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
Huh, that's pretty good! Not as fun as the Velvets', but makes me wanna check out the rest of that record.
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Friday, 15 November 2013 20:30 (ten years ago) link
lou singing his song with one backing band vs lou singing his song with another - again, it's pretty arbitrary and only serves to give those two songs (or "satellite of love" etc) a lower placing on the poll ... if you're worrying about the solo stuff being buried, just credit the track to "lou reed/velvets" and let people distinguish if they must when they post their ballot. removing the velvet votes for these songs wouldn't seem to help push them up the poll
first of all, lol @ calling the velvets "lou's backing band". Secondly, I'll admit that it's a bit arbitrary, but the issue is really only arising around a handful of songs that Lou recorded with the Velvets and then subsequently re-recorded with drastically different arrangements released on his solo albums. Several voters made the distinction between which version they were voting for. I've assumed that all votes for "Satellite of Love" are for the "Transformer" version, as no one's specified otherwise. Likewise, almost all the votes for "We're Gonna Have A Real Good Time Together" I've assumed were for the Velvets version, with the exception of a couple who noted their votes were for the "Street Hassle" version. The other two songs already referenced are where there has been a sizeable vote split.
And again, I'm splitting them this way because a) it's apparent that folks are unaware of the solo versions and b) in every case the solo versions are radically different.
― Ayn Rand Akbar (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 15 November 2013 20:35 (ten years ago) link
hey, it's cool and will change my ballot accordingly before sending it. i'm just saying that - by distinguishing between versions of songs - you're only ensuring that all these versions will place lower in the ballot then they would if brought together under a "lou/velvets" umbrella. that would also give you less work to do re: assumptions.
― da croupier, Friday, 15 November 2013 20:54 (ten years ago) link
lower in the poll, i mean
― da croupier, Friday, 15 November 2013 20:55 (ten years ago) link
Can the following users please clarify which version of Andy's Chest they were voting forLou ReedCan the following users please clarify which version of She's My Best Friend they were voting forVelvet Underground
― Bridge of Size (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Friday, 15 November 2013 20:56 (ten years ago) link
thx
― Ayn Rand Akbar (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 15 November 2013 21:03 (ten years ago) link
Transformer version of Andy's Chest >>>>> VU version, but that is the only song done by both artists that I would say that about.
― sleeve, Friday, 15 November 2013 21:06 (ten years ago) link
I'd also say it for "Satellite Of Love" and maybe "Oh Jim" - but I guess I'm voting for the VU version of "Sad Song" if I have to distinguish
― da croupier, Friday, 15 November 2013 21:14 (ten years ago) link
most of the votes for Sad Song so far have specified the Lou version (Chris Lowe's ballot did not - givin it to Lou unless I hear otherwise)
― Ayn Rand Akbar (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 15 November 2013 21:18 (ten years ago) link
submitted!
― da croupier, Friday, 15 November 2013 21:21 (ten years ago) link
Sat of luv?
xpost
― Mark G, Friday, 15 November 2013 21:25 (ten years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z8kdcCdrFFk
while i like this version, transformer gets the nod for better lyrics ("harry, mark & tom" >>>> "wynken, blinken & nod")
― da croupier, Friday, 15 November 2013 21:29 (ten years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FxLrb-cuFz4
though voting for the VU's demo of "Sad Song" will do nothing but hamper its placing potential, i prefer this arrangement a lot
― da croupier, Friday, 15 November 2013 21:31 (ten years ago) link
yeah, that VU "sad song" is so wonderful.
― tylerw, Friday, 15 November 2013 21:35 (ten years ago) link
I liked that since Bowie barred his own music from being used in Velvet Goldmine, Haynes & Co. threw on the solo "Satellite" which has prominent backing vox from the dame.
― A Made Man In The Mellow Mafia (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 15 November 2013 21:36 (ten years ago) link
there's an alternate reality where "what goes on" did well on the charts, the band got a manager that was nice to lou reed, and the velvets remained a tight little groove band through the mid-'70s
― da croupier, Friday, 15 November 2013 21:38 (ten years ago) link
was just listening to this weird post-reed "what goes on" -- yeah, basically a "tight little groove band"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=smsxCth9144
― tylerw, Friday, 15 November 2013 21:41 (ten years ago) link
granted, in that reality their stature is probably more like mott the hoople's (bowie would have hooked up with them either way)
― da croupier, Friday, 15 November 2013 21:42 (ten years ago) link
just sent mine. picking a no. 1 was incredibly hard.
― (The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Friday, 15 November 2013 21:45 (ten years ago) link
Do we have to rank? I never do these big polls don't know the rules.
― Into The Disco Mystic (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 15 November 2013 21:48 (ten years ago) link
RE: Satellite of Love
I've assumed all votes were for the Transformer version unless otherwise noted.
― Ayn Rand Akbar (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 15 November 2013 21:53 (ten years ago) link
re: ranking
yes please. Just a list, with your no. 1 on top, is fine.
― Ayn Rand Akbar (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 15 November 2013 21:54 (ten years ago) link
FYI 36 ballots in, voting closes in 3 hrs
― Ayn Rand Akbar (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 15 November 2013 22:01 (ten years ago) link
Will go w/ Lou versions of Sad Song & She's My Best Friend. Neil agrees w/ me.
― Chris L, Friday, 15 November 2013 22:02 (ten years ago) link
Have a good ballot, you guys
― Mark G, Friday, 15 November 2013 22:04 (ten years ago) link
3hrs? Man I better get started on this thing.
― comic sbans soref (wins), Friday, 15 November 2013 22:08 (ten years ago) link
thx Chris duly noted
― Ayn Rand Akbar (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 15 November 2013 22:09 (ten years ago) link
I can't do a ballot, it'dbe almost all VU, and some Mo. Also, could not pick or rank or exclude..
Will enjoy the results tho.
― Mark G, Friday, 15 November 2013 22:11 (ten years ago) link
Threw together a list now just have to tidy it up
― Into The Disco Mystic (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 15 November 2013 22:22 (ten years ago) link
― Into The Disco Mystic (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 15 November 2013 22:23 (ten years ago) link
what, are there voters in Hawaii I don't know about?
― Ayn Rand Akbar (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 15 November 2013 22:27 (ten years ago) link
gr8080?
― Into The Disco Mystic (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 15 November 2013 22:29 (ten years ago) link
does lou's "thinking xxx" extra feature count as a "track"? If so that could get my #1 vote
― dicktweeter perpetuo (wins), Thursday, November 14, 2013 9:02 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
can we get a ruling on this
― comic sbans soref (wins), Friday, 15 November 2013 22:30 (ten years ago) link
if not my #1 will be cale's reading of kerouac's moon, purely for the way he says "mountayne"
― comic sbans soref (wins), Friday, 15 November 2013 22:32 (ten years ago) link
not gunna make it :(
― CANONICAL artists, etc., etc. (contenderizer), Friday, 15 November 2013 22:40 (ten years ago) link
you can vote for whatever you want, is my ruling
― Ayn Rand Akbar (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 15 November 2013 22:42 (ten years ago) link
awes
can I have contenderizer's ballot
― comic sbans soref (wins), Friday, 15 November 2013 22:42 (ten years ago) link
Never gonna get it down to 50.
― Into The Disco Mystic (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 15 November 2013 22:47 (ten years ago) link
srsly I'm running out of spaces and I haven't got to lou yet :-(
if I could vote for the 3 "Falkland Suite" songs (in their Fragments versions) as 1 track I'd be happy, as it is they'll get the chop
― comic sbans soref (wins), Friday, 15 November 2013 22:54 (ten years ago) link
Should be finished with mine within an hour...
― He got...JACKED UP!!!!! (WilliamC), Friday, 15 November 2013 23:31 (ten years ago) link
Trying to speed rank mine...
― Kent Burt, Friday, 15 November 2013 23:35 (ten years ago) link
my vote for She's My Best Friend is VU version. C'mon.
― kraudive, Saturday, 16 November 2013 00:05 (ten years ago) link
right I'm cutting out cale's hallelujah cover, I don't wanna be corny
subbing in cale's so long marianne cover, because "mountayne" see above
― comic sbans soref (wins), Saturday, 16 November 2013 00:06 (ten years ago) link
thx kraudive, duly noted
― Ayn Rand Akbar (Shakey Mo Collier), Saturday, 16 November 2013 00:08 (ten years ago) link
Oh god I put She's My Best Friend too low.
This band.
― kraudive, Saturday, 16 November 2013 00:30 (ten years ago) link
I only just realised it sounds like they're doing early Beatles harmonies.
― kraudive, Saturday, 16 November 2013 00:31 (ten years ago) link
Sent!
― He got...JACKED UP!!!!! (WilliamC), Saturday, 16 November 2013 00:36 (ten years ago) link
sent, I couldn't finish ordering although I know it'll be the difference between my favourites making it or not
― comic sbans soref (wins), Saturday, 16 November 2013 00:39 (ten years ago) link