Prince "Sexy MF" C/D

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Maria is OTM.. one of Prince's more disappointing singles up until then compared to his own previous work, but compared to everyone else probably classic.

If you could edit out Tony M that would be his best post 80s album, a lot of bangers on there.. Morning Papers, God Created Woman, 7, Love to the 9s (minus woeful rap interlude)

Jay Smooth (jsmooth995), Friday, 9 September 2005 15:13 (eighteen years ago) link

Who cares if JB sounded "outmoded"? That's not his fault.

Actually, I think I'll add to "Pussy Control" and "Endorphinmachine" to my list of 90's Prince songs I prefer to "Sexy MF."

Alfred Soto (Alfred Soto), Friday, 9 September 2005 15:18 (eighteen years ago) link

7 is pretty good, but those others are terrible, jay! 3 chains o' gold!!!

petesmith (plsmith), Friday, 9 September 2005 15:18 (eighteen years ago) link

People actually like "7"? Wow.

The best of all of Prince's JB rips, of course, is "Housequake."

Austin Still (Austin, Still), Friday, 9 September 2005 15:20 (eighteen years ago) link

god damn. shut up. already.

The Obligatory Sourpuss (Begs2Differ), Friday, 9 September 2005 15:24 (eighteen years ago) link

guys, if we could please turn the conversation back to UNPOPULAR prince songs/albums, that would be great.

petesmith (plsmith), Friday, 9 September 2005 15:30 (eighteen years ago) link

how about "blue light?" thats a shitty one!

petesmith (plsmith), Friday, 9 September 2005 15:31 (eighteen years ago) link

housequake is easily>>>>>>>>the work or sexy mf by FAR

okokok, Friday, 9 September 2005 15:32 (eighteen years ago) link

I remember there was a competition on a tonight show down 'ere (the entire format of which, including the host's mannerisms, was lifted directly from the letterman show) where they would play the clip and pause it before "fucker". they had a competition to find out an alternate word to replace it, and the main prize was a tennis racquet and bag from prince, the tennis goods company!

deaf leopard (haitch), Friday, 9 September 2005 15:38 (eighteen years ago) link

"Blue Light" is fabulous!

Alfred Soto (Alfred Soto), Friday, 9 September 2005 15:40 (eighteen years ago) link

ehhhh. i dont know.

petesmith (plsmith), Friday, 9 September 2005 16:29 (eighteen years ago) link

"gett off" (especially the long house-y remix) >>> "sexy mf", but the "shakin that ass" refrain of "sexy mf" is pretty damn great.

tricky (disco stu), Friday, 9 September 2005 16:38 (eighteen years ago) link

once again, let's steer clear of "worthwhile" or "listenable" prince.

petesmith (plsmith), Friday, 9 September 2005 16:41 (eighteen years ago) link

"Housequake" is like the greatest thing in the history of the world. It's really unfair to compare "Sexy MF" to that.

"7" definitely follows the "this should by all rights be an unholy mess of garbled shite but somehow IT IS FUCKING AWESOME" rule that runs rampant throughout the symbol album. The Gold Experience is a much better effort all around and I really don't trust people who dislike "P Control" as that's usually a sign that you eat babies.

The Ghost of Black Elegance (Dan Perry), Friday, 9 September 2005 16:45 (eighteen years ago) link

does anyone still listen to musicology is what i want to know.

and also, when will there be deluxe remastered lavishly packaged double (or hell triple!!) cd reissues of the "worthwhile" or "listenable" prince?

tricky (disco stu), Friday, 9 September 2005 16:48 (eighteen years ago) link

blue light is as good as red red wine-style UB40. thats about as good as it could ever be. which isnt that bad, but its not that good either. im just happy prince didnt try a jamaican accent on it. anyone who likes pussy control likely thinks tony m was a good rapper. and wants to swallow tony m's babies.

okok, Friday, 9 September 2005 17:01 (eighteen years ago) link

UB40's "Red Red Wine" is excellent, and so is "Blue Light." "3 Chains o' Gold" suxorz. I'm Gonna Change My Name to the Title of This Album is my 3rd favorite '90s Prince album after The Gold Experience ("319"!!!) and Emancipation (yes it's too long; so was every other album in the '90s).

prince didnt really start homaging JB til the purple rain tour in baby im a star (all that 'hit me 345 times' stuff)

this is 345 kinds of poppycock

Matos-Webster Dictionary (M Matos), Friday, 9 September 2005 17:17 (eighteen years ago) link

tricky otm, although the sound quailty on all the albums is pretty great already. but just imagine the miles of rehearsal/outtake tape locked in paisley park! itll probably be a while, though, and itll probably be a big fight to get prince and WB to cooperate to put out a quality reissue series.

okok - "red red wine" pwns "blue light!" prince is my favorite musician of all time, but theres no way i can deny that fact. also, "p control" is classicclassicclassic, end of argument.

petesmith (plsmith), Friday, 9 September 2005 17:19 (eighteen years ago) link

come on then matos, HIT ME with the truth about why its poppycock.

okoko, Friday, 9 September 2005 17:21 (eighteen years ago) link

You know Matos wrote a book about Prince, yeah? He could maybe mail you a PDF of it?

The Ghost of Black Elegance (Dan Perry), Friday, 9 September 2005 17:24 (eighteen years ago) link

been waitin for you, matos!

ill admit that my love for "3 chains o' gold" is roughly analogous to my love of "trapped in the closet", ie a leftfield-whatthefuck-retarded-genius-but-not-really-ironic-kind-of-love, but thats real love!

petesmith (plsmith), Friday, 9 September 2005 17:27 (eighteen years ago) link

duh, im a big prince fan - i have the matos book already! ;)

i love the first part of 3 chains, that melody is really lovely

okoko, Friday, 9 September 2005 17:29 (eighteen years ago) link

There is a popular theory that Prince dove headlong into the JB homaging cuz he felt he had something to prove, after that infamous incident where he joined JB on stage along with Michael Jackson, and folks felt Michael showed him up..

Altho when i finally saw the footage, I didn't think Prince looked all that bad.. it's been hyped up as his most embarrassing moment..

Jay Smooth (jsmooth995), Friday, 9 September 2005 18:00 (eighteen years ago) link

well he does look out of place, mainly because he looks like such a nob, trying to showboat and show off like HEs the star. he looks quite out of it actually. MJ played it cool, prince was either so nervous he acted like an arse or he was simply so arrogant he didnt care either way. still, the guitar line he came up with was really funky. i was half expecting him to charge into a wanky solo but somehow he kept himself totally in the pocket. not for as long as i would have liked though.

okok, Friday, 9 September 2005 18:03 (eighteen years ago) link

Yeah he looks out of place for sure, seemed like he felt shy about being up there and compensated by getting weird.. it's a trip to see him looking like an awkward, bashful kid on stage, after so many years of seeing grown man prince in concert..

Jay Smooth (jsmooth995), Friday, 9 September 2005 18:13 (eighteen years ago) link

these days, he kinda overdoes the 'im a grown man' angle. give me snotty juvenille prince any day!

okok, Friday, 9 September 2005 18:16 (eighteen years ago) link

thinking about it more, okok is probably right in terms of overt JB homagery. I was thinking about his stagecraft, but early on it's a lot more P-Funk than JB.

Matos-Webster Dictionary (M Matos), Friday, 9 September 2005 19:37 (eighteen years ago) link

MJ Prince and James Brown?!? wtf I have never heard of this. where is this footage.

Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 9 September 2005 22:11 (eighteen years ago) link

You should be able to find it on most p2ps - and I'd say it's fairly embarrasing -when he leans down towards the crowd you can clearly see some kind of mental breakdown/panic attack. And that's not including his embarraing arrival (like a little girl being carried by her father), and departure (it's the way JB just makes a quick check before getting back to the show). Hopefully that doesn't give too much away - it's definetly worth tracking down.

Jedmond (Jedmond), Friday, 9 September 2005 22:21 (eighteen years ago) link

so this was at some James Brown concert...? what were the circumstances, etc. I mean, it seems unusual that all three would be in the same place at the same time, something I would normally only expect to see at an awards show or something. this was early 80s, I'm guessin...?

Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 9 September 2005 22:22 (eighteen years ago) link

I'm not sure, but guessing by appearance I would say 82-3. James Brown has heard MJ is in the crowd, and calls out to him. MJ appears, does a couple of tricks and whispers to JB and then retreats off the stage. JB then steps forward and tells the crowd that MJ has just informed him that Prince is in the house - he and the crowd start chanting for Prince - who after a while appears in some sort of gladitorial gear - stripped down to the waist except for some shoulder protection. - and seriously just look for it, when I first heard of it, I just typed the words "jackson" and "prince" into Kazaa (it was a while ago) and it came up almost instantly.

Jedmond (Jedmond), Friday, 9 September 2005 23:18 (eighteen years ago) link

oh damn i forgot his piggyback entrance.. nevermind i guess it was pretty embarrassing, ha.

I can put it up in yousendit or something, if it's not around in Soulseek et al

Jay Smooth (jsmooth995), Friday, 9 September 2005 23:50 (eighteen years ago) link

I love how this incident is viewed (by some Prince fams) not only as the incident which spurred him on to outdoing JB (and MJ), but also the reason for his puritanical views on drinking and drugs (due to the belief he had to utterly drug addled for that incident to occur).

Jedmond (Jedmond), Saturday, 10 September 2005 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link

YSI!

kit brash (kit brash), Saturday, 10 September 2005 00:54 (eighteen years ago) link

jedmond, please dont EVER call prince fans FAMS. please, dont do it.

xpost - HAHA, i forgot the piggyback entrance!

okok, Saturday, 10 September 2005 08:17 (eighteen years ago) link

I love that vid clip! It makes Chick Corea look like a total bitch for one, which is funnier after you consider the badass-levels he displays in Purple Rain.

Drowning Man (Barima), Saturday, 10 September 2005 17:55 (eighteen years ago) link

Song is OK, but the longform video for this is silly fun. Prince in his wannabe-gangsta phase with a dorky entourage. Then there's the poolside video of Prince in his Speedo with said dorky cronies roller skating around him!

I love "The Morning Papers" on that Symbol album.

Jay Vee (Manon_70), Saturday, 10 September 2005 18:01 (eighteen years ago) link

Trust me I think it's fairly safe to refer to the Prince fans (who were discussing the video's implications) as fams - if only because they themselves are sad enough to refer to themselves as fams. + If I can imagine you buying an official NPG t-shirt, then I reserve the right to refer to you as a fam.

Jedmond (Jedmond), Sunday, 11 September 2005 01:47 (eighteen years ago) link

I think "Sexy MF" is a pretty good song, but I woulda liked it more if it were a bit shorter. To me, those JB-style dropouts (or whatever you call em) begin to lose their impact when they're repeated a dozen-or-so times in a song. Singles-wise, I prefer "Gett Off" - in fact, Diamonds & Pearls may be my favourite Prince LP of the era. Tho I'm admittedly only a moderate fan - of his '90s output, I've only heard 6 and currently own just 4. (Or 7 and 5 respectively, counting the black album.)

Myonga Von Bontee (Myonga Von Bontee), Sunday, 11 September 2005 06:15 (eighteen years ago) link

"they themselves are sad enough to refer to themselves as fams"

i see your point.

xxpost - prince's bodyguard isnt the jazz musician chick corea, its chick er, huntsbury?

okok, Sunday, 11 September 2005 08:54 (eighteen years ago) link

ten years pass...

Classic! Granted, it's not the most accomplished thing Prince ever did, but total fun.

WHERE'S JIM!? (Turrican), Saturday, 23 April 2016 19:54 (eight years ago) link

fun but a dud really.
also i hate that prince is so famous for this song.
its prince reduced to a silly punchline.
also the beginning of his increasingly worse JB pastiches.

StillAdvance, Sunday, 24 April 2016 19:10 (eight years ago) link

ayo turrican not that I'm mad but are you going to answer every prince thread on ilm

HYPERLINK TO RAP GENIUS (BradNelson), Sunday, 24 April 2016 19:36 (eight years ago) link

SCRUB THE DISHES!

WHERE'S JIM!? (Turrican), Sunday, 24 April 2016 19:46 (eight years ago) link

Eye seem 2 remember there was a censored version 'o' this which replaced the expletives in the song with a sample 'o' Prince doing a high-pitched "aaaaawwwaa!" or something. Eye remember it sounding quite comical.

2rrican (Turrican), Thursday, 28 April 2016 00:16 (eight years ago) link

This tune bangs in the club.

Tim F, Thursday, 28 April 2016 01:29 (eight years ago) link

this is played in clubs?

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 28 April 2016 01:44 (eight years ago) link

I've heard it several times. The drum line (which feels like it's constantly running slightly ahead of itself) always sounds amazing in that context.

Tim F, Thursday, 28 April 2016 02:11 (eight years ago) link

yeah i think someone was dissing the npg drummer in one of the other threads and I immediately thought "but the drums in sexy mf are tight as hell"

HYPERLINK TO RAP GENIUS (BradNelson), Thursday, 28 April 2016 02:16 (eight years ago) link

most striking element no question

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 28 April 2016 02:20 (eight years ago) link

Bland is an excellent drummer and the best NPG member. Shakey's right about Prince's gradual decline, but Bland anchored the best of it.

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 3 May 2016 18:02 (eight years ago) link

best NPG member.

is faint praise

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 3 May 2016 18:08 (eight years ago) link

he'd have been a good drummer in any band.

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 3 May 2016 18:11 (eight years ago) link

I find the whole NPG era (or what I think of as the NPG era...those first few records in the 90s) to be kind of fascinating in that while they def. lose some (even a lot) of the edge that made Prince unique, they so clearly are what he imagined would appeal to a black audience at the time – featuring Bland and Seacer's heavily syncopated grooves, Gaines' Aretha-esque wailing vocals, Barbarella's super funky organ parts, and, of course, Tony M rapping (and the dancers). It was like he was trying to put together his own Muscle Shoals All Stars in some 90s context. As a whole, it doesn't really work but in the instances when it does—mostly singles like "Get Off," "D&P," "7," this song—the results tended to be as weird and outrageous as anything in the guy's catalogue.

On another note, I played this song for my 8 year old the other day. I'm probably a horrible parent for doing it but I really wanted her to understand why her mom and I loved this Prince guy so much (it also provided a nice opportunity to let her know that some people use words to get a rise out of folks). Interestingly, her semi-embarrassed giggle was pretty much identical to the reaction everyone I knew had when it came out during college. I'm probably going to Hell.

Naive Teen Idol, Wednesday, 4 May 2016 04:09 (eight years ago) link


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