england's dreaming really shook me out of a "no music" phase I was going through. he's probably my fave music writer just for the effect that one book had on me. I recently found that time travel anthology, haven't really had time to dip in yet though.
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― Theorry Henry (Enrique), Wednesday, 18 January 2006 12:43 (eighteen years ago) link
No further info on the Hac story, Matos. And frankly I have no idea what I was thinking here, because in it I say that I read something of Savage's in NewOrderStory, which is a film.
I would cut off a toe to read the Hac book.
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― Theorry Henry (Enrique), Thursday, 19 January 2006 09:34 (eighteen years ago) link
Any Vagues are worth picking up and reading if you can find them, I particulatly love "The West Eleven Days of my Life".
― Tim (Tim), Thursday, 19 January 2006 09:43 (eighteen years ago) link
― Theorry Henry (Enrique), Thursday, 19 January 2006 09:46 (eighteen years ago) link
― Jerry the Nipper (Jerrynipper), Thursday, 19 January 2006 10:03 (eighteen years ago) link
― Theorry Henry (Enrique), Thursday, 19 January 2006 10:10 (eighteen years ago) link
Also: the book Teenage that he's working on is supposedly about youth culture from the turn of the century? Haven't really heard a lot about it.
Surely this could be better: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jon_Savage
― RoxyMuzak© (roxymuzak), Thursday, 19 January 2006 16:21 (eighteen years ago) link
― Theorry Henry (Enrique), Thursday, 19 January 2006 16:24 (eighteen years ago) link
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― Tom (Groke), Thursday, 19 January 2006 17:07 (eighteen years ago) link
Hey, apparently that Haçienda Must Be Built book even has a Fac number!
― RoxyMuzak© (roxymuzak), Thursday, 19 January 2006 20:32 (eighteen years ago) link
Vague back issues, and the anthology The Great British Mistake: Vague 1977-92 (Savage interview included), are available from AK Press, it looks like.
― xero (xero), Friday, 20 January 2006 02:07 (eighteen years ago) link
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― Matos-Webster Dictionary (M Matos), Friday, 20 January 2006 06:51 (eighteen years ago) link
also looking fwd to the gay-pop-thru-the-ages comp he's putting together for this year, also on Trikont
― Matos-Webster Dictionary (M Matos), Friday, 20 January 2006 06:52 (eighteen years ago) link
That comp thing sounds fantastic!
― RoxyMuzak© (roxymuzak), Friday, 20 January 2006 20:51 (eighteen years ago) link
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― mark grout (mark grout), Friday, 22 September 2006 08:16 (seventeen years ago) link
Also:
http://69.93.254.120/G/storage/site1/files/24/51/42/245142_76323876e8d154tarctm06.jpg
― RoxyMuzak© (roxymuzak), Friday, 29 September 2006 20:22 (seventeen years ago) link
Has anyone here read "Teenage" yet ?
― Hedgerows, Monday, 14 January 2008 16:33 (sixteen years ago) link
no. i was like huh? i thought it was going to be about postwar teenagers. or, the invention of the teenager i guess. but it's a prehistory. is he doing another volume?
― That one guy that hit it and quit it, Monday, 14 January 2008 17:39 (sixteen years ago) link
I don't know. Not sure how music oriented it is in any event. Just wondered whether anyone had road tested it. He is a writer I do like but am not sure about this one.
― Hedgerows, Monday, 14 January 2008 17:48 (sixteen years ago) link
Great source of info on Joy Divison but I can't stand reading this liner notes on the Joy Division releases, especially the Collector's editions the past few months. I even can stand Morley's big ol' essay on the Heart And Soul box set more than Savage's, which is saying a lot. (Not that I don't enjoy some Morley pieces, but THAT one was a doozy.)
― Mackro Mackro, Monday, 14 January 2008 18:06 (sixteen years ago) link
His Kinks book is great!
― RoxyMuzak© (roxymuzak), Friday, September 29, 2006 10:22 PM (2 years ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
this is good to know. iirc quondam ilxor mark s said he had the hell of a time writing it, and i was unsure whether the book was not good as a result of this.
― display name fatigue (special guest stars mark bronson), Monday, 2 February 2009 20:40 (fifteen years ago) link
back to the well: the england's dreaming tapes
― juniper jazz (haitch), Monday, 4 May 2009 02:12 (fifteen years ago) link
That was a very interesting interview. Makes me want to read Teenage, but not 1966. England's Dreaming I've had for years.
― but also fuck you (unperson), Sunday, 8 August 2021 21:52 (two years ago) link
1966 is pretty solid, I'd say give that a whirl. And yes to England's Dreaming, had the paperback run of that forever -- picked it up in 1992 when I visited the UK for the first time.
― Ned Raggett, Sunday, 8 August 2021 23:07 (two years ago) link
more than "pretty solid", 1966 is his best book IMO -- the interview doesn't really do it justice bcz it gets derailed into a (yes justified but also irrelevant) hate-fest against the very bad tory social historian dominic sandbrook
(this also means the much trickier question that hatherley asks -- abt the left-revisionist treatment of the 70s (historians beckett and edgerton) -- doesn't get explored)
― mark s, Tuesday, 10 August 2021 09:08 (two years ago) link