"#beautiful" was pretty retro itself. mariah refusing to concern herself with scoring hits worked so well on memoirs and i wish she wouldn't think about it so much.
― lex pretend, Monday, 17 February 2014 23:42 (ten years ago) link
"#Beautiful" was retroish because Miguel incorporates retro elements in his very current style, and it was something #fresh for Mariah, unlike the We Belong Together Redux of "You're Mine". I mean, I like it (and I loved "The Art of Letting Go"), but the Trademark Old Formula is not going to give her any hits anymore if that's what she's hoping for. Sorry, surm!
― breastcrawl, Tuesday, 18 February 2014 21:05 (ten years ago) link
you don't think so? :( i think you're mine sounds pretty #fresh in terms of all the other shit on the radio. and the verse is pure #Beautiful, if downtempo, if you want to be honest.
art of letting go was never pushed for radio, it was just a "preview"
well, there's this - from the March 1 Billboard:"You're Mine (Eternal)"Hot 100: #88 (New entry)Hot R&B Songs: #15 (New entry)Hot R&B/Hip-Hop Songs: #24 (New entry)R&B/Hip-Hop Digital Songs: #12 (New entry)
Billboard Social 50: #38 (Last week: #41)
but you're saying itunes is a big projector?
― surm, Saturday, 22 February 2014 01:06 (ten years ago) link
and are we speaking about a younger audience as a determining factor in all of this? /excuse my ignorance
― surm, Saturday, 22 February 2014 01:08 (ten years ago) link
It's not off to the best start on radio either.
― Greer, Saturday, 22 February 2014 01:41 (ten years ago) link
iTunes is definitely the main projector. The only way you can get a smash hit in the US without significant sales is when the song goes viral on YouTube a la "Harlem Shake" (so fingers crossed for the video I guess). Radio is not gonna go overboard on a song if nobody's buying it. And I would think it's the younger audience that predominantly buys single tracks, yes.(And sales-wise it's the same all over the world: in most countries it was in the iTunes Top 100 for just a couple of days. For instance, Russia is the only European country where it's still in there.) #yesiwatchthecharts
― breastcrawl, Saturday, 22 February 2014 16:37 (ten years ago) link
if you're talking about pop hits, yeah, iTunes is king. but R&B radio (and country radio, and rock radio) still pick up on songs all the time without digital sales being a factor.
― MISTERSNRUB (some dude), Saturday, 22 February 2014 17:25 (ten years ago) link
Yes, talking about the Hot 100 here, not about genre and/or airplay charts.
― breastcrawl, Saturday, 22 February 2014 17:47 (ten years ago) link
interesting. thanks guys.
― surm, Sunday, 23 February 2014 17:31 (ten years ago) link
"you're mine (eternal)" totally clicked yesterday, all it needed was a momentary break from hectic life stuff and some sun streaming in through my window <33333
it is such a delicate crystal vase of a song, which makes the gradual realisation that it's an anguished and hopeless reverie all the more affecting
these are three pretty different singles so far, no idea what to expect from the album...
― lex pretend, Wednesday, 26 February 2014 16:50 (ten years ago) link
it's a curious choice of single though, given that it seems like it belongs most on the almost entirely obvious single free memoirs
― lex pretend, Wednesday, 26 February 2014 16:52 (ten years ago) link
it really is so pretty, and so her
― surm, Wednesday, 26 February 2014 17:00 (ten years ago) link
it is, as are "#beautiful" and "the art of letting go", but i love that a) none of them are her resting on her laurels and churning out the kind of her people will automatically lap up, b) mariah invests being herself with this tremendously affecting hard-won air
― lex pretend, Wednesday, 26 February 2014 17:08 (ten years ago) link
yeah she's definitely not going for it her own way
― surm, Wednesday, 26 February 2014 17:19 (ten years ago) link
i mean IS going for it her own way
https://scontent-b-sea.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/t1/10014702_10100117401170117_1340908907_n.jpg
― Murgatroid, Friday, 7 March 2014 23:46 (ten years ago) link
http://www.fuse.tv/2014/04/mariah-carey-new-album-complete-guide
i think we knew all this but
Collaborators:
The album boasts a long list of collaborators (both rumored and confirmed) that could hopefully see Mimi taking some risks:
-Rodney "Darkchild" Jerkins: A previous Mariah collaborator ("So Lonely" featuring Twista) produced single "The Art of Letting Go."
-Q-Tip: The Tribe Called Quest frontman told us he was working on the album in August 2012.
-Jermaine Dupri: A producer working with Mariah since the '90s ("Always Be My Baby," "Sweetheart," "We Belong Together"). Watch their undeniably chemistry in this Fuse News interview.
-David Morales: The dancefloor maestro who's served remixes like the "My All (Morales 'My' Club Remix)," featured on Mimi's official The Remixes album.
-Bryan-Michael Cox: A producer with two singles off her comeback album The Emancipation of Mimi ("Shake It Off" and "Don't Forget About Us").
-Hit-Boy: A new Mimi collaborator, rumored to have crafted a track titled "Thirsty." He's risen to A-list producer status with tracks like Kanye West & Jay Z's "N****s in Paris," Beyonce's "XO" and Lil Wayne's "Drop the World."
-The-Dream: A recent favorite of Mariah who worked on her last No. 1, "Touch My Body," and co-produced almost every track on her Memoirs of an Imperfect Angel LP.
-Mike WiLL Made It: R&B-pop's go-to guy, (Miley Cyrus' "We Can't Stop," Ciara's "Body Party") is a new collaborator for Mimi, confirmed in a Billboard interview.
-R. Kelly: While Mariah teased a studio snap with Kellz saying "working on a new song!" we're wondering if it's for the Chicago crooner's Trapped in the Closet series. No official word yet.
-Loris Holland: The singer tweeted she was in the studio with Holland, who worked on her past albums such as 1995's Daydream and 2005's The Emancipation of Mimi.
-Fabolous: While posting on Instagram about a night in the studio, Mariah posted a pic that she was "doing a different record now" and tagged the Brooklyn rapper. The collaborated on the track "Last Night a DJ Saved My Life" off Mimi's Glitter soundtrack.
― surm, Saturday, 5 April 2014 12:10 (ten years ago) link
Fabolous!!
― surm, Saturday, 5 April 2014 12:11 (ten years ago) link
― some dude, Saturday, 5 April 2014 12:22 (ten years ago) link
she's releasing the album to itunes next month. could be may 6th as planned but might be some other time.
― prolego, Friday, 25 April 2014 09:26 (ten years ago) link
probably the best strategy possible at this point (considering the label won't allow another pushback) considering it'll save her the face of releasing a fourth lead single and she can generate some press out of the move. plus as a notorious perfectionist she can work on it till the second it drops pretty much, which is good
― prolego, Friday, 25 April 2014 09:35 (ten years ago) link
what happens if the sound engineer drops the wrong mix on itunes tho
― all is fair in love and womp (monotony), Friday, 25 April 2014 11:29 (ten years ago) link
i don't think mimi quite grasps quite the word "surprise" means. four singles, billboard announcement, release date in the month that it's been scheduled for ≠ surprise
intrigued by wtf she's going for though - i've loved everything so far but i have no idea whether she wants this to be an album for tru heads à la memoirs ("you're mine" suggested that commercial smashing wasn't a priority) or HITZ ("#beautiful", and the endless delays, suggest she wants these too...)
― lex pretend, Friday, 25 April 2014 13:24 (ten years ago) link
Me. I Am Mariah…The Elusive Chanteuse
― some dude, Thursday, 1 May 2014 03:15 (ten years ago) link
https://itunes.apple.com/us/album/me.-i-am-mariah...the-elusive/id872238798
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 1 May 2014 03:22 (ten years ago) link
Wow @ that title. She's outdone herself.
― Greer, Thursday, 1 May 2014 03:41 (ten years ago) link
lmao
― dyl, Thursday, 1 May 2014 05:07 (ten years ago) link
"Me. I Am Mariah…The Elusive Chanteuse" Tracklisting:
1. Cry.2. Faded3. Dedicated (feat. Nas)4. #Beautiful (feat. Miguel)5. Thirsty6. Make It Look Good7. You’re Mine (Eternal)8. You Don’t Know What To Do (feat. Wale)9. Supernatural (With Special Guest Stars “Dembabies” a.k.a. Ms. Monroe & Mr. Moroccan Scott Cannon a.k.a. Roc ‘N Roe)10. Meteorite11. Camouflage12. Money ($ * / …) (feat. Fabolous)13. One More Try14. Heavenly (No Ways Tired/Can’t Give Up Now)15. It’s a Wrap (feat. Mary J. Blige) [Deluxe edition]16. Betcha Gon’ Know (feat. R. Kelly) [Deluxe edition]17. The Art of Letting Go [Deluxe edition]18. Me. I Am Mariah…The Elusive Chanteuse
― lex pretend, Thursday, 1 May 2014 06:02 (ten years ago) link
As if track 18 isn't track 1.
― ginuwine's cousin (monotony), Thursday, 1 May 2014 06:06 (ten years ago) link
wow @ it's a wrap w mjb
― schlump, Thursday, 1 May 2014 06:13 (ten years ago) link
15. It’s a Wrap (feat. Mary J. Blige) [Deluxe edition]16. Betcha Gon’ Know (feat. R. Kelly) [Deluxe edition]
hang on, these are evidently exhumed from the shelved memoirs remix album. oh mimi, bless you for still trying to make angels advocate happen
― lex pretend, Thursday, 1 May 2014 07:34 (ten years ago) link
well this looks bad
― r|t|c, Thursday, 1 May 2014 07:45 (ten years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5mSezvKLxVM
that this is a nickname and not something jd just called her last week when she turned up 3 hours late at the studio for mixing is stretching believability but i'll take it
― prolego, Thursday, 1 May 2014 08:22 (ten years ago) link
I love how her titles keep getting more and more ridiculous
― steendriver dysphoria hoos (The Reverend), Thursday, 1 May 2014 09:49 (ten years ago) link
can we start a parody list of titles?
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 1 May 2014 15:29 (ten years ago) link
omg i didn't even notice the angels advocate repeats hahahaha
i hope "one more try" is a george michael cover, she would do a really beautiful job on it i'm sure
― dyl, Thursday, 1 May 2014 17:48 (ten years ago) link
yeah it almost certainly is. faith is one of her favourite albums and it quite heavily influenced her (first!) self-titled album
― prolego, Thursday, 1 May 2014 17:53 (ten years ago) link
omg. at all of this. i didn't know that RE: Faith but that's awesome. makes so much sense. tracklisting looks good. tho nervous about the babies singing. Mary J!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
― surm, Thursday, 1 May 2014 19:07 (ten years ago) link
https://fbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn2/t1.0-9/p206x206/10268572_10152377316647766_7539061411632124655_n.jpg i can't
― surm, Friday, 2 May 2014 03:41 (ten years ago) link
the way she pronounces "chanteuse" in that video is everything
― ginuwine's cousin (monotony), Friday, 2 May 2014 10:09 (ten years ago) link
New single is called "Thirsty" and produced by Hit-Boy.
http://www.directlyrics.com/new-music-mariah-carey-thirsty-premiere-news.html
― Greer, Tuesday, 13 May 2014 13:38 (ten years ago) link
jeez, what a mess
― Number None, Tuesday, 13 May 2014 13:51 (ten years ago) link
sounds like they just slapped a couple of unrelated acapellas on top of a third-rate knockoff of the Niggas in Paris beat
― Number None, Tuesday, 13 May 2014 13:53 (ten years ago) link
The HQ for anyone not interested in hearing radio djs talking over it: http://revolt.tv/video/first-listen-mariah-carey-ft-rich-homie-quan-thirsty/66859648-E559-4CD9-A79C-EC40E1434DD6
I think I like this. Mostly for the pre-chorus(?).
― Greer, Tuesday, 13 May 2014 14:39 (ten years ago) link
omg
― surm, Tuesday, 13 May 2014 14:46 (ten years ago) link
beautifulyou're minethirsty
― surm, Tuesday, 13 May 2014 14:48 (ten years ago) link
even surm forgot "the art of letting go" ;_;
― lex pretend, Tuesday, 13 May 2014 14:52 (ten years ago) link
(this is very "migrate", which is a plus for me)
― lex pretend, Tuesday, 13 May 2014 14:53 (ten years ago) link
ok i've only heard it once and "UH. you're thirsty. UH. you're thirsty." is basically embedded in my head forever
― lex pretend, Tuesday, 13 May 2014 14:54 (ten years ago) link
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― lex pretend, Tuesday, 13 May 2014 16:17 (ten years ago) link