C/D : Pink Floyd "The Division Bell"

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[i typed that while totally rocking out to that "comfortably numb" btw]

tylerw, Monday, 17 February 2014 23:49 (ten years ago) link

yeah i really think division bell was a turning point for me in that regard. it took a little while, but at some point (probably about halfway through that rose bowl show) i was like wait this sucks doesn't rule!

― tylerw, Monday, February 17, 2014 5:46 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Fixed

even when they suck pink floyd rules

sXe & the banshees (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 17 February 2014 23:51 (ten years ago) link

oh the show ruled it just also sucked.
i mean, i was 15 and probably bought the tickets like six months in advance and tastes change fast at that age, i think. the other shows i remember seeing that spring were the breeders and pavement....

tylerw, Monday, 17 February 2014 23:55 (ten years ago) link

i saw my teenaged pink floyd show from outside the stadium, sitting on the curb across the street, since the stadium was down in a depression we could even see inside

but the lasers shot out into the sky

also the ticket was free

but division bell was still zzzzzzzzzz

j., Monday, 17 February 2014 23:59 (ten years ago) link

ok holy shjt i didn't know about publius enigma

the thing about that was word of it was spreading mainly via usenet/mailing lists and it was before everybody had broadband so word was traveling largely via descriptions of shows or a few pictures from e.g. the new jersey show iirc? and I hadn't given a fuck about post-Piper Floyd since God knows when but that whole thing felt exciting and weird. I gather that the explanation is kinda mundane (like, a combo of some guy posing and a tech dude backstage who thought it was a joke worth taking a little further) but it felt so neat and mysterious in a way that was only possible for a brief moment in time

was ths referenced in true detective or something played from it?

I hate this album, but High Hopes is really really good, one of the greats. Too bad the whole album wasn't just that song.

akm, Tuesday, 18 February 2014 08:26 (ten years ago) link

Yea that Kit Williams/Publius shit was the most interesting thing about The Division Bell.

I think one big problem with this era of Floyd are those lazy, middle-aged tempos, every song drags like crazy.

MaresNest, Tuesday, 18 February 2014 09:21 (ten years ago) link

coming up on the 20th anniversary of the time me and my friends saw the floyd at the rose bowl during the division bell tour. DSOTM laser show at griffith park was more fun tbh.

Hah - I was at that show too!

Elvis Telecom, Tuesday, 18 February 2014 09:55 (ten years ago) link

was ths referenced in true detective or something played from it?

http://pbs.twimg.com/media/BgLsAWSCMAEVYZ-.jpg

Elvis Telecom, Tuesday, 18 February 2014 09:56 (ten years ago) link

I would bet that's woody's shirt in real life

calstars, Tuesday, 18 February 2014 12:15 (ten years ago) link

Hah - I was at that show too!
i think they actually opened with "astronomy domine" which would've been cool if we weren't still in the parking lot...

tylerw, Tuesday, 18 February 2014 18:25 (ten years ago) link

I was lucky enough to see two shows in London, one with all of DSOTM and the other straighter set with Astronomy, they were great, yeah..

MaresNest, Tuesday, 18 February 2014 19:13 (ten years ago) link

Yah, "Astronomy Domine" was first. Possibly the best moment of the show as it was just the three of them recreating the UFO club as best they could. As much as I love how Gilmour constructs his guitar bits, he needs to free-form freakout more.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0siszbObCcw

Elvis Telecom, Wednesday, 19 February 2014 03:02 (ten years ago) link

One great obscure track from this era is "Soundscape" - a 22 minute long ambient piece that was played as the opening of all the Division Bell shows. It later turned up on the PULSE cassette tape.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KwNYq-c0lBw

Elvis Telecom, Wednesday, 19 February 2014 03:07 (ten years ago) link

three weeks pass...

my drummer that smokes mad weed but is in great physical shape loves this album

― charleston charge (chaki), Saturday, 16 April 2005 01:04 (8 years ago) Permalink

^^haunts my thoughts

also I was wrong, maybe it is terrible. I thought a defense could be mounted, like it sounds like a surprisingly decent album by a generic '80s band that you'd be happy to find in a $1 vinyl bin. but as a mid-1990s Floyd record yeah it's just a bit of a slog to put it mildly.

christmas candy bar (al leong), Tuesday, 18 March 2014 13:58 (ten years ago) link

my drummer that smokes mad weed but is in great physical shape loves this album

i'm trying to understand what insights I am supposed to derive from this comment.

Poliopolice, Tuesday, 18 March 2014 14:23 (ten years ago) link

I haven't really bothered with post-Animals Pink Floyd albums (I think this is largely justified), but something about the the Division Bell, really catches my interest... probably the mysterious album art has something to do with it. I've only heard two songs off the album. The last track, "High Hopes," is very haunting, and I like it quite a bit. How's the rest of the album?
― Vestigial Appendages, Esq. (King Kobra), Thursday, April 14, 2005 5:40 PM (8 years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Pink Fraud.
― shookout (shookout), Thursday, April 14, 2005 5:45 PM (8 years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Stink Floyd.
― Gear! (can Jung shill it, Mu?) (Gear!), Thursday, April 14, 2005 5:46 PM (8 years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

so much ownage

(or if you must, "data") (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Tuesday, 18 March 2014 14:41 (ten years ago) link

http://data.motor-talk.de/data/galleries/299768/20535/bild-37910.JPG
I drove a 2nd hand VW Gold Pink Floyd for a couple of years (a red one). It did survive my first accident, but the second crash totalled the car...

Tim Heckler (willem), Tuesday, 18 March 2014 15:54 (ten years ago) link

The soundscape referenced upthread was cool as hell in the live setting--it probably was the best and perhaps only good use of a giant arena- 360 degree sound at a moment when people were still filing in and no one was really paying close attention, so you could really hear it clearly. I remember the show being pretty damn cool overall, having come around at probably my Peak Floyd period.

lauded at conferences of deluded psychopaths (Sparkle Motion), Tuesday, 18 March 2014 16:08 (ten years ago) link

I love The Final Cut.
overall I prefer A Momentary Lapse to Division Bell, but from the latter I really dig three songs: Cluster One, Poles Apart, and High Hopes. also, I like Rick Wright's track.
I thought Take It Back sounded more like Simple Minds circa Street Fighting Years (another album I love) than U2.

Max Florian, Tuesday, 18 March 2014 17:48 (ten years ago) link

two months pass...

http://www.divisionbell20.com/

goth colouring book (anagram), Wednesday, 21 May 2014 09:22 (ten years ago) link

two years pass...

Publius Enigma

Neanderthal, Thursday, 23 June 2016 03:14 (seven years ago) link

still have never come around on this record

akm, Thursday, 23 June 2016 03:46 (seven years ago) link

just gave it another listen though and enjoyed it for what it is.

akm, Thursday, 23 June 2016 04:59 (seven years ago) link

Can't remember who said it, but one of the funniest things I've ever heard was that review/tweet/whatever that said of that stupid James Franco Wizard of Oz prequel, "This movie sucks so bad it probably syncs up with The Division Bell."

rhymes with "blondie blast" (cryptosicko), Thursday, 23 June 2016 05:37 (seven years ago) link

Correction: it was an ILX post!

This movie is gonna suck so bad that it will sync up with The Division Bell

― Your spectacular host (Viceroy), Friday, March 15, 2013 7:12 PM (3 years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

rhymes with "blondie blast" (cryptosicko), Thursday, 23 June 2016 05:40 (seven years ago) link

amazing

Neanderthal, Thursday, 23 June 2016 05:41 (seven years ago) link

would have also accepted Momentary Lapse of Reason but Division Bell rings funnier

Neanderthal, Thursday, 23 June 2016 05:42 (seven years ago) link

**long sigh**

I like the Division Bell.

Austin, Thursday, 23 June 2016 06:24 (seven years ago) link

Loud lol at that post

albvivertine, Thursday, 23 June 2016 07:19 (seven years ago) link

three years pass...

my drummer that smokes mad weed but is in great physical shape loves this album

― charleston charge (chaki), Friday, April 15, 2005 6:04 PM (fifteen years ago) bookmarkflaglink

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Wednesday, 6 May 2020 04:42 (four years ago) link

i think i've become the kind of person who smokes mad weed and loves this album

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Saturday, 9 May 2020 15:41 (four years ago) link

"take it back" -> "coming back to life," that's the good shit

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Saturday, 9 May 2020 15:42 (four years ago) link

also "poles apart"! "marooned"! i can't/can believe this thread is full of people saying everything but "high hopes" sucks

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Saturday, 9 May 2020 15:43 (four years ago) link

pink floyd rules

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Saturday, 9 May 2020 16:12 (four years ago) link

If A Momentary Lapse of Reason is Pink Floyd at their most dad rock, The Division Bell feels like some kind of post-dad rock stage. I think that the tour for this album and the subsequent release of Pulse did rehabilitate the band for a new generation of listeners.

Melomane, Saturday, 9 May 2020 16:37 (four years ago) link

revisiting momentary was really depressing, i might be alone in this but i think it sounds even less like pink floyd than the final cut. "sorrow," "terminal frost," "one slip" all great though. "learning to fly" never did much for me

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Saturday, 9 May 2020 17:27 (four years ago) link

also feels like it goes on forever. which tbf so does the division bell but i like it in that case

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Saturday, 9 May 2020 17:28 (four years ago) link

If you sync up The Division Bell to the Tom Hanks-Meg Ryan movie "You've Got Mail," the many coincidences that arise are amazing.

― blonry, Friday, April 15, 2005 2:57 PM (fifteen years ago)

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Saturday, 9 May 2020 19:10 (four years ago) link

one year passes...

that extended slide guitar solo that runs the second half of High Hopes is really epic & tastefully done. that whole song is nice, actually.

otherwise, this album sucks.

charlie rex, Thursday, 23 December 2021 13:01 (two years ago) link

this album rules, it’s sooooo beautiful

STOCK FIST-PUMPER BRAD (BradNelson), Thursday, 23 December 2021 14:54 (two years ago) link

I really like the idea of it being beautiful, and if I could just get past the stigma of well... Pink Floyd in the 90's (which really shouldn't preclude my embracing it, especially in my older and more impartial stage of life), I daresay I could come round.

charlie rex, Thursday, 23 December 2021 15:38 (two years ago) link

i hated it for many years so i get it! but i have embraced the corn

STOCK FIST-PUMPER BRAD (BradNelson), Thursday, 23 December 2021 15:39 (two years ago) link

Is there a name for the kind of melody you get in the chorus of 'A Great Day For Freedom', where you get the general 'Just One Cornetto' / 'When Girls Get Together' vibe?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=22z03ZQtpe8

PaulTMA, Thursday, 23 December 2021 16:52 (two years ago) link

The only thing I hear in common between those three melodies is maybe starting on a chord suspension?

The best thing about The Division Bell is that Gilmour and co. have their confidence back, there isn't the paralyzing fear that departing six inches from the Floyd template is going to lose them their audience. So they can do something as sunny as "Coming Back to Life", which unfortunately also sounds like a lifeless bedroom recording with fake drums that goes on for 6 minutes.
The worst thing is all these tiresome quarrelsome lyrics playing with the audience: "is it about Roger? Maybe it could be...!" Also it's twenty minutes longer than A Momentary Lapse of Reason and probably even slower. My pick from this era is the Pulse version of "A Great Day For Freedom", it gets the epic feel without running it into the ground.

Halfway there but for you, Thursday, 23 December 2021 23:49 (two years ago) link

I stan mildly for this album and Reason mostly because they're... as good as Pink Floyd ever were imo? Which is fine

flamboyant goon tie included, Friday, 24 December 2021 00:34 (two years ago) link

this is one of those records I really want to like better than I do, and I keep coming back to it, and saying, it's fine, but I keep hoping it will seem super great

J Edgar Noothgrush (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Friday, 24 December 2021 00:39 (two years ago) link

mighty challops. i appreciate the take.

sknybrg, Friday, 24 December 2021 00:39 (two years ago) link

xp

sknybrg, Friday, 24 December 2021 00:39 (two years ago) link


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