― Rockist Scientist, Tuesday, 8 October 2002 16:16 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Ra-kist Scientist, Friday, 25 October 2002 23:38 (twenty-one years ago) link
If not, could somebody hurry up and do it?
― David Allen, Saturday, 26 October 2002 04:08 (twenty-one years ago) link
― bob zemko (bob), Saturday, 26 October 2002 08:46 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Saturday, 26 October 2002 13:55 (twenty-one years ago) link
there WAS a bootleg about a year ago but i was assured this was official. i don't really know what to believe with rough trade cos it all depends who you speak to. try the scot with the beard. i assume you went to the covent garden one with the tramps and the cheese and the skaters and whatnot
if all fails i'll dub it 4 u
― bob zemko (bob), Saturday, 26 October 2002 14:54 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Ra-kist Scientist, Saturday, 26 October 2002 17:39 (twenty-one years ago) link
yes, I went to the covent garden shop.
― Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Saturday, 26 October 2002 18:04 (twenty-one years ago) link
muhaha in that case i will get a another copy and flog it on eBay
― bob zemko (bob), Saturday, 26 October 2002 22:06 (twenty-one years ago) link
High points from "Live at the Wonder Inn": a performance of "Angels and Demons at Play" and "How High the Moon." The latter, of course, is just the sort of "material in a traditional jazz vein" I was talking about, but I like it nevertheless. I think I like this song now. I notice that during much of "Spontaneous Simplicity," someone is playing a clave rhythm. I have heard something close to the clave rhythm before in Sun Ra songs, but I don't think I've ever heard it played this overtly.
The sound on "The Majestic Session" is a little more problematic. When the music gets loud and all musicians are playing simultaneously, the distortion is pretty bad. It's a pity, since the energy is definitely there. I like Sun Ra's solo at the beginning of "Velvet," though it's hard to make it out. I haven't quite sorted through the four pieces titled "Majestic" 1-4. I think my favorite is the 4th.
I like the CD as a package (aside from the nasty adhesive which doesn't want to come off). The liner notes are good, and there are some very cool photos from the Wonder Inn. (For a more adequate review, check the one somebody who knows a lot mroe than I do posted on amazon.com.)
― Rockist Scientist, Wednesday, 20 November 2002 03:55 (twenty-one years ago) link
how about all of the supposedly 200-odd el-saturn lps out there that aren't re-issued ? anybody got some saturn vinyl they'd like to mention ? ok, recommending these odd small-run bootleg type lps would be pointless, but if everyone here had one real el-saturn piece of vinyl, it might be a different one from anyone else's here, hopefully
200+ privately issued lps -- some very limited, issued casually at gigs from the '60s to the '80s -- let's hear about the ones that haven't made it to the re-issue process and maybe may never re-appear -- made it into anyone's collection ?
how about it ? not s/d, more a special swap meet on saturn ?some el-saturn record that you and possibly you alone might be able to say something about ..
― george gosset (gegoss), Wednesday, 20 November 2002 04:43 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Wednesday, 20 November 2002 13:09 (twenty-one years ago) link
― george gosset (gegoss), Wednesday, 20 November 2002 14:33 (twenty-one years ago) link
I'm not a collector of rarities. There is too much that is easily available which I haven't gotten to (not just for Sun Ra, but in general).
― Rockist Scientist, Wednesday, 20 November 2002 14:58 (twenty-one years ago) link
Space is the place, what else?
― Rockist Scientist, Saturday, 8 March 2003 04:33 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Mr. Diamond (diamond), Saturday, 8 March 2003 10:55 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Rockist Scientist, Saturday, 8 March 2003 15:07 (twenty-one years ago) link
Singles is an invaluable reference.
Solo Piano (Vol. II) (a.k.a. St. Louis Blues) is a revelation.
― christoff (christoff), Monday, 10 March 2003 16:06 (twenty-one years ago) link
Presumably it's http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&uid=11:11:51|AM&sql=Bcnez97u7krat
― Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Monday, 10 March 2003 16:12 (twenty-one years ago) link
'Strange Strings' is relentless acoustic noise, it does not let up. It's what I was hoping 'Atlantis' would sound like.
'Secrets of the Sun' is probably my favorite of the early stuff, where they're still caught between big band traditional playing and free form.
― Jon Leidecker, Monday, 10 March 2003 18:04 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Mr. Diamond (diamond), Monday, 10 March 2003 18:14 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Rockist Scientist, Thursday, 13 March 2003 20:51 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Rockist Scientist, Thursday, 13 March 2003 20:52 (twenty-one years ago) link
― thomas de'aguirre (biteylove), Thursday, 13 March 2003 23:05 (twenty-one years ago) link
I remember hearing a version of "Astro Black" (presumably from the album of the same name) that sounded better, but this was back when I was a teenager, and my recollection is pretty vague after 20 or so years of not hearing it since.
― Rockist Scientist, Thursday, 13 March 2003 23:16 (twenty-one years ago) link
― thomas de'aguirre (biteylove), Thursday, 13 March 2003 23:16 (twenty-one years ago) link
well done ra-kist. nothing to fear as i said on top of the thread to deraymi (you both thought it was diff...that's 'uncanny' (sp? vocab?), that is).
― Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Friday, 14 March 2003 16:46 (twenty-one years ago) link
― jess (dubplatestyle), Friday, 14 March 2003 16:53 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Friday, 14 March 2003 16:54 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Friday, 14 March 2003 16:55 (twenty-one years ago) link
(yes i tried html type stuff and i fucked it up)
― Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Friday, 14 March 2003 16:56 (twenty-one years ago) link
[Note: kist=stone sarcophagus, therefore: ra-kist would be the coffin of the sun, or the earth itself, since the sun descends into the earth, each night.]
― Ra-kist Scientist, Friday, 14 March 2003 18:06 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Saturday, 15 March 2003 13:40 (twenty-one years ago) link
(So Ra-Kist Scientist is my esoteric name.)
― Rockist Scientist, Saturday, 15 March 2003 17:14 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Saturday, 15 March 2003 17:15 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Rockist Scientist, Thursday, 24 April 2003 13:32 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Thursday, 24 April 2003 18:07 (twenty-one years ago) link
― o. nate (onate), Thursday, 24 April 2003 18:37 (twenty-one years ago) link
o. nate, I'm honestly a little leery of the live recordings in general. (Nothing Is. . . is probably my favorite of that bunch, though I also really like the live half of the quirky Music from Tomorrow's World that came out last year, but that's from the 60's. I don't especially like anything I've heard on Leo records, except for brief moments. Actually Live at the Pitt Inn (in Japan) is not bad, but I still listen to that more for individual tracks than as a whole album (and it's expensive).
― Rockist Scientist, Thursday, 24 April 2003 19:37 (twenty-one years ago) link
― o. nate (onate), Thursday, 24 April 2003 19:48 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Thursday, 24 April 2003 20:11 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Geir Homegrown, Thursday, 24 April 2003 20:16 (twenty-one years ago) link
― H (Heruy), Thursday, 24 April 2003 20:26 (twenty-one years ago) link
Really? I've been slowly building up my Sun Ra collection and so far one of the richest veins I've been mining are all those John Sinclair-produced reissues of the Arkestra's appearances at the Ann Arbor Blues & Jazz Festival ("Outer Space Employment Agency", "Life is Splendid", "It is Forbidden") - I like the blend of early 70s synths, the chants, and the free-blowing horn sections. What's your take on these?
― Shakey Mo Collier, Thursday, 24 April 2003 20:27 (twenty-one years ago) link
I saw them do a show of mostly Disney songs in Philadelphia many years back, when June Tyson was still around, and it was great, but the Leo CD didn't work for me. (They also did a smaller scale Disney tribute this past summer, but it wasn't as impressive as that earlier show.)
Shakey, I don't know if I've heard those recordings.
― Rockist Scientist, Thursday, 24 April 2003 21:21 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Shakey Mo Collier, Thursday, 24 April 2003 21:24 (twenty-one years ago) link
I'll see if I can dig up that tape and make a copy for you if you like.
― H (Heruy), Thursday, 24 April 2003 21:29 (twenty-one years ago) link
Shakey, it's not sound quality: it's just that sometimes I feel the live spectacle doesn't translate well into merely a sound recording. For instance, I've heard more than one live recording where the opening "space chord" sort of chaotic blowing session just gets tedious. Or, the goofier end of their material somehow comes across as too goofy, where I don't think it would bother me in concert. I don't have a turn-table either.
I'm technologically very limited.
― Rockist Scientist, Thursday, 24 April 2003 21:35 (twenty-one years ago) link
― vahid (vahid), Thursday, 24 April 2003 21:37 (twenty-one years ago) link
Do you do orgies?
― Rockist Scientist, Thursday, 24 April 2003 21:39 (twenty-one years ago) link
Thanks for sharing!
― budo jeru, Thursday, 19 October 2023 22:44 (seven months ago) link
Marshall Allen interview - 100 years young this year!
https://www.theguardian.com/music/2024/feb/02/a-man-cannot-learn-without-discipline-jazz-guru-marshall-allen-on-life-with-sun-ra-and-turning-100
― The British Boy of Film Classification (Tom D.), Friday, 2 February 2024 10:51 (four months ago) link