yeah it is! anyone checked this out yet? http://lightintheattic.net/releases/1007-dylans-gospel-aqdon topic, the versions of "i shall be released" and "mighty quinn" are super good. "mighty quinn" seems like an odd choice for a gospel re-make, but then you listen to it and it's kind of about the second coming. kind of!
― tylerw, Wednesday, 26 March 2014 16:07 (ten years ago) link
i have that from a long-ago download, it's better than you might expect. or that one might expect. i enjoy it.
― espring (amateurist), Wednesday, 26 March 2014 16:10 (ten years ago) link
Merry Clayton and Gloria Jones on it, makes me want to investigate it
― curmudgeon, Wednesday, 26 March 2014 16:18 (ten years ago) link
i like the first mermaid avenue quite a bit
but this sounds horrible
i can't really handle elvis costello anymore
love you declan though, up through imperial bedroom u were my dogg
― Little Nicky Pizza loved that rascal Rust (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 26 March 2014 16:20 (ten years ago) link
Merry Clayton and Gloria Jones on it, makes me want to investigate it― curmudgeon, Wednesday, 26 March 2014 16:18 (3 minutes ago) Bookmark
― curmudgeon, Wednesday, 26 March 2014 16:18 (3 minutes ago) Bookmark
Oh, this sounds like the album I have a single from..
1968 or thereabouts..
― Mark G, Wednesday, 26 March 2014 16:22 (ten years ago) link
it might have been nice if they had hired somebody who could sing
― espring (amateurist), Wednesday, 26 March 2014 16:31 (ten years ago) link
xp yeah it is very enjoyable for the most part -- some of the wordier stuff (chimes of freedom, my back pages) doesn't translate that well, but there are plenty of very nice arrangements/performances.
― tylerw, Wednesday, 26 March 2014 16:31 (ten years ago) link
i like the first mermaid avenue quite a bitit might have been nice if they had hired somebody who could sing
― espring (amateurist), Wednesday, March 26, 2014 11:31 AM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
eh i don't know if a better singer would have made it better really, i liked the kind of casual feel to it....the one thing i will say is it doesn't feel like an album weighted down by "importance", which is its triumph imo
― Little Nicky Pizza loved that rascal Rust (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 26 March 2014 16:34 (ten years ago) link
i should rephrase that: someone who can sing better than jeff tweedy and billy bragg
― espring (amateurist), Wednesday, 26 March 2014 17:37 (ten years ago) link
But its not as if Guthrie was a baptist gospel singer
― curmudgeon, Wednesday, 26 March 2014 17:40 (ten years ago) link
yeah i guess to me bragg fit p well
― Little Nicky Pizza loved that rascal Rust (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 26 March 2014 17:44 (ten years ago) link
^^^ this
― curmudgeon, Wednesday, 26 March 2014 17:56 (ten years ago) link
actually bragg was OK, tweedy's affected nasality irritates me. i don't really see the point of jeff tweedy in general.
― espring (amateurist), Wednesday, 26 March 2014 18:25 (ten years ago) link
Every time I think of Elvis Costello now doing things like this, just brings back the painful memory of watching the Harry Smith Project DVD and him trying to do some southern bluegrass ballad and it just sounding miserable and just making me incredibly embarrassed for him.
― ▴▲ ▴TH3CR()$BY$H()W▴▲ ▴ (Adam Bruneau), Wednesday, 26 March 2014 18:31 (ten years ago) link
yeah as he gets older he has a bigger and bigger problem with knowing this limits, vocally and otherwise.
― espring (amateurist), Wednesday, 26 March 2014 19:00 (ten years ago) link
knowing HIS limits
The Lost Notebooks of Hank Williams is really good; unusually good in terms of reflecting Williams' range as an entertainer, the way he mixed the happy, sad, devout, and joeky stuff into his live radio variey shows. I really like all three volumes of Mermaid Avenue (Vol. 3 is available as a sep. download on Amazon, if you don't want the box, which only adds a making-of DVD). I had no use use for the Vol.1-era Wilco, even or esp. performing these songs live, minus Billy Bragg (and Natalie Merchant)(and Corey Harris). But the Nels Cline-etc line-up can be very fine, and he even shows up on Vol.3. Burnett might do okay, but agree re EC's vocal limitations. Still the songs might come through.
― dow, Wednesday, 26 March 2014 20:27 (ten years ago) link
That's the deal with even Tweedy singing (in the studio, anyway): the songs do come through, as Wilco etc add some right nice & appropriate toons.
― dow, Wednesday, 26 March 2014 20:30 (ten years ago) link
at the height of their critical and popular approval the love for wilco bemused me. it wasn't offensive; it just sounded like sort of humble, none-too-exciting dadrock/roots rock gussied up (or stripped down) with some vaguely post-rocky production. and i lived in the epicenter of wilco fandom. to this day i cannot hum or recall a single bit from any wilco song. again, i have nothing against them, no hostility or whatever (they even come across as reasonably OK people in that documentary that friends dragged me to), i just don't get it. i mean, were people making arty documentaries about mark-almond in the 1970s?
― espring (amateurist), Wednesday, 26 March 2014 21:07 (ten years ago) link
sorry i sound more than a bit challopsy but it's true.
I'm with you. This kind of sounds like an attempt to make the most boring music possible.
― ▴▲ ▴TH3CR()$BY$H()W▴▲ ▴ (Adam Bruneau), Wednesday, 26 March 2014 21:09 (ten years ago) link
I see the marketing material now: "don't ever say that these geezers aren't up to a challenge" --ILXOR
― espring (amateurist), Wednesday, 26 March 2014 21:15 (ten years ago) link
I still like Wilco's Summerteeth album and the first Mermaid Avenue (both Bragg and Wilco).
I agree that Costello and T-bone Burnett and company will likely not impress us. I do like the Carolina Chocolate Drops vocalist Giddens, although I have not kept up with her group (and the membership changes).
― curmudgeon, Wednesday, 26 March 2014 21:25 (ten years ago) link
totally w/you on this one amateurist
― sleeve, Wednesday, 26 March 2014 21:28 (ten years ago) link
i liked the carolina chocolate drops but they took a kind of crowd-pleasing route that I can hardly blame them for and I sort of lost interest. there were always warning signs, as when the crowd got real excited when they'd do string-band covers of "hit 'em up style."
― espring (amateurist), Wednesday, 26 March 2014 22:06 (ten years ago) link
they are amazing musicians though.
and i'm just a jerk, basically.
http://www.superdeluxeedition.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/bob_bootleg.jpgSomeone mentioned this in another thread, but worth repeating here. Is this real? Can't find many articles on it so far. Coming in November, apparently. Hope it sounds at least as good as the Mixin' Up the Medicine/A Tree with Roots bootlegs.http://www.superdeluxeedition.com/news/bob-dylan-the-bootleg-series-vol-11-the-basement-tapes-complete/
― Jazzbo, Tuesday, 26 August 2014 11:29 (nine years ago) link
It's real and available for pre-order on Amazon. Trimmed-down, 2-CD version will also be available.
― Jazzbo, Tuesday, 26 August 2014 11:35 (nine years ago) link
!?!! I had no idea. So basically, when this comes out, the circle will be closed and no label will ever release recorded music again, right?
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 26 August 2014 11:53 (nine years ago) link
whoa, really?
― tylerw, Tuesday, 26 August 2014 12:03 (nine years ago) link
dang, even looks like there is some un-bootlegged material in there.
― tylerw, Tuesday, 26 August 2014 12:08 (nine years ago) link
daaaaaamn
― ruffalo soldier (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 26 August 2014 14:39 (nine years ago) link
as I said on the other thread, I will buy this
― sleeve, Tuesday, 26 August 2014 14:41 (nine years ago) link
one question i have is: i wonder if there are full length versions of stuff that gets cut off early on a tree w/roots like "lock your door" etc
― ruffalo soldier (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 26 August 2014 14:46 (nine years ago) link
That might just be where the original tape cuts off. But who knows? They obviously have access to some other sources for these things.
― tylerw, Tuesday, 26 August 2014 14:55 (nine years ago) link
i'm probably just wishful thinking but that would be amazing some of those snippets are kind of heartbreaking when they cut off
― ruffalo soldier (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 26 August 2014 15:09 (nine years ago) link
Haha, this is scheduled for release exactly one week before T-Bone Burnett's Look What I Found In The Basement or whatever it's called.
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Tuesday, 26 August 2014 15:18 (nine years ago) link
holy fucking shit, it's happening.
http://theseconddisc.com/2014/08/26/they-shall-be-released-bob-dylan-and-the-bands-the-basement-tapes-complete-arrives-in-november/
― I dunno. (amateurist), Tuesday, 26 August 2014 16:29 (nine years ago) link
is aug. 26 the new april fool's day or something?
― I dunno. (amateurist), Tuesday, 26 August 2014 16:30 (nine years ago) link
one question i have is: i wonder if there are full length versions of stuff that gets cut off early on a tree w/roots like "lock your door" etc― ruffalo soldier (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, August 26, 2014 9:46 AM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― ruffalo soldier (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, August 26, 2014 9:46 AM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
i hope so! some of the best songs on the boots are cut off midway.
― I dunno. (amateurist), Tuesday, 26 August 2014 16:35 (nine years ago) link
Six discs would expand on my "Tree with Roots" version; getting the best available source material is nice; the 120 page booklet may be cool....
But $150 seems a bit steep, no?
― bodacious ignoramus, Thursday, 11 September 2014 22:55 (nine years ago) link
it sure does. kind of think it'll come down, but who knows... the smile deluxe box set was 6 CDs + double LP + a couple seven inches + a pretty lavish book and I think it was $125 or thereabouts?
― tylerw, Thursday, 11 September 2014 23:08 (nine years ago) link
Unless the book is really REALLY cool, this set appears to be priced about double what is reasonable. I can see a complete vinyl set for $150; i might even pay more.
― bodacious ignoramus, Thursday, 11 September 2014 23:43 (nine years ago) link
Well, the deluxy versions do come down thanks to fopp etc.
"Tell tale signs" was silly, another cd plus a book of ep covers, got it for £25 in the end.
I don't recall how much "Another selfie" was, but it wasn't full price. That was mail order though.
― Mark G, Friday, 12 September 2014 06:43 (nine years ago) link
either i'm going to get this used or i'm just going to dl it illegally b/c bob dylan does not need my $150 for 45 yr old stuff
― I dunno. (amateurist), Friday, 12 September 2014 07:03 (nine years ago) link
btw i'm sure this will sound 10x better than existing boots (except for mixin up the medicine)
― I dunno. (amateurist), Friday, 12 September 2014 07:04 (nine years ago) link
Agreed on the sound; i'll absolutely dl some flacs just to hear how they sound before i make any purchase decision.
― bodacious ignoramus, Friday, 12 September 2014 18:53 (nine years ago) link
http://www.bobdylan.com/us/news/basement-tapes-track-track
― I dunno. (amateurist), Wednesday, 5 November 2014 23:17 (nine years ago) link
iTunes was offering it for $58, but I couldn't get the listing again; Amazon's got the CDs (and book, I guess) for $120, last time I looked. Marcus on the mostly unbootlegged tracks/alts (says 33 in all; 2 are unlisted, in Disc 6): http://rol.st/1z01jPC
― dow, Wednesday, 5 November 2014 23:41 (nine years ago) link