for a while guitar player mag was the cool alternative to guitar mag. their johnny marr cover story was formative for me.
― fact checking cuz, Thursday, May 15, 2014 8:48 PM (14 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
i found a ratty old copy of it somewhere when i was a kid, from the mid/late 80s and they actually did a story on the avant garde guitar scene! featured sonic youth, live skill, savage republic, rat at rar r, and bands like that - first exposure to any of that
― dollar rave club (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 16 May 2014 02:04 (ten years ago) link
guitar player was the only one of these mags that ever covered anything cool, much to their credit
― call all destroyer, Friday, 16 May 2014 02:05 (ten years ago) link
I watched that Yngwie "Arpeggios from Hell" video last week. So rad.
― ▴▲ ▴TH3CR()$BY$H()W▴▲ ▴ (Adam Bruneau), Friday, 16 May 2014 02:07 (ten years ago) link
Jeez Holdsworth's guitars are some of the ugliest I've ever seen
― Master of Treacle, Friday, 16 May 2014 02:07 (ten years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jvouiDJSTUE
^Might be too old, but I know 90s guitar mags tabbed this song out all the time.
― ▴▲ ▴TH3CR()$BY$H()W▴▲ ▴ (Adam Bruneau), Friday, 16 May 2014 02:09 (ten years ago) link
Holdsworth is the man. I love a lot of this music. Jeff Beck rules all, obviously
― brimstead, Friday, 16 May 2014 02:09 (ten years ago) link
Oh Holdsworth can really play. Like Gambale. Has his own thing going on.
― Master of Treacle, Friday, 16 May 2014 02:10 (ten years ago) link
thread of badass guitarists
― brimstead, Friday, 16 May 2014 02:10 (ten years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aiXR9ggRdFI
― calstars, Friday, 16 May 2014 02:12 (ten years ago) link
did they talk about danny gatton in late 90s guitar mags? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mGGE4CrPvjU
― brimstead, Friday, 16 May 2014 02:13 (ten years ago) link
I think there's definitely a subset of players even in a technically minded field like this where you can go, yeah, maybe not my thing, but they've completely fucking mastered that. Be it the fluidity of the playing or not relying on speed or knowing exactly where to speed up. And so on.
― Master of Treacle, Friday, 16 May 2014 02:14 (ten years ago) link
xp fuck yes they did but he was dead so they couldn't interview him every other month
― call all destroyer, Friday, 16 May 2014 02:15 (ten years ago) link
danny gatton was really good imo
I posted this in the Yngwie thread but in case you missed what is in my opinion the greatest single thing ever said by a musician in an interview:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QHZ48AE3TOI
― dollar rave club (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 16 May 2014 02:19 (ten years ago) link
pains me to say this as a good ilx brigade member but Leo Kottke
And here is the part of the thread where UMS breaks my heart into a million bits.
Kottke in his prime pre tendonitis could eat basically every one of these dudes alive. Also bonus points wrote listenable songs and stuff.
― Everyone is awful except you. Wait, no, you are also awful. (jjjusten), Friday, 16 May 2014 02:22 (ten years ago) link
god bless yngwie xp
― call all destroyer, Friday, 16 May 2014 02:23 (ten years ago) link
Ha I realize I am uh shall we say biased thx to family history, but I'm speaking from outside of that here.
― Everyone is awful except you. Wait, no, you are also awful. (jjjusten), Friday, 16 May 2014 02:23 (ten years ago) link
JJ I love kottke!
― dollar rave club (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 16 May 2014 02:24 (ten years ago) link
re: kottke idk if the guitar press ever knew what to do with him, he's a weirdo and not really the ingratiating type.
also yes he wrote songs in addition to being able to shred.
― call all destroyer, Friday, 16 May 2014 02:24 (ten years ago) link
http://thumbs1.ebaystatic.com/d/l225/m/mlJU-jYkubCgoyMTwjHabKg.jpgpeter lang
― the glimmer man (Sufjan Grafton), Friday, 16 May 2014 02:29 (ten years ago) link
I know about like 95% of the dudes in this thread because of my high school guitar teacher. I always thought nearly all of them were terrible and used to just kind of grin and grit my teeth through listening to them/talking about them. He was also really into this duo called Tuck & Patti (guitarist Tuck Andress) who I continue to find pretty embarrassing:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nIVjCJ3jNDw
― Doritos Loco Parentis (Hurting 2), Friday, 16 May 2014 02:38 (ten years ago) link
Even as my tastes have "mellowed" and "matured" I continue to find almost all of the music in this thread pointless.
― Doritos Loco Parentis (Hurting 2), Friday, 16 May 2014 02:39 (ten years ago) link
Two things I know about Tuck & Patti:* St. Vincent is related to one of them (a niece I think)* Jim Carrey wrote a song for them that they recorded
― Immediate Follower (NA), Friday, 16 May 2014 02:40 (ten years ago) link
tuck andress is def one of these guys. i lol'd when i found out he is annie clark's uncle.
― call all destroyer, Friday, 16 May 2014 02:40 (ten years ago) link
He was also into this "unsung" guy called Danny Gatton (no one ever mentions Danny Gatton without talking about how unsung he was).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rUpP7CnW4yA
Kinda cool, certainly could play, but honestly it's not really surprising why this no-style-having dude playing country-pickin and blues in the 80s was "unsung."
― Doritos Loco Parentis (Hurting 2), Friday, 16 May 2014 02:42 (ten years ago) link
Tuck the uncle of Annie Clark iirc.
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 16 May 2014 02:43 (ten years ago) link
My guitar teacher was a nice and pretty cool guy and also had no style. His only criterion was "that cat can play." He would praise literally anyone who could play their instrument well.
― Doritos Loco Parentis (Hurting 2), Friday, 16 May 2014 02:44 (ten years ago) link
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-PXYGyIKFoo0/UXsL_RcplFI/AAAAAAAABEk/rVhEybOUcGo/s1600/GP-Thurston.JPG
― cock chirea, Friday, 16 May 2014 02:44 (ten years ago) link
Gatton was a genius. Search for some clip with him, Alvin Lee and Vince Gill, the latter two unsung but as good as anyone.
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 16 May 2014 02:44 (ten years ago) link
Albert Lee sorry.
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 16 May 2014 02:46 (ten years ago) link
did they talk about danny gatton in late 90s guitar mags? http://www.youtube.com/v/mGGE4CrPvjU&fs=1&hl=en
― brimstead, Thursday, May 15, 2014 7:13 PM (33 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― brimstead, Friday, 16 May 2014 02:46 (ten years ago) link
Haha I thought so m@tt I just parsed the way you said that wrong, sorry dude!
Kottke in person is a very sweet odd dude (wrt that press deal), he once told my dad after I fell down and banged my head as a 2 yr old or so on something that he should buy me a crash helmet and my dad laughed and then realized that Leo was completely serious.
― Everyone is awful except you. Wait, no, you are also awful. (jjjusten), Friday, 16 May 2014 02:48 (ten years ago) link
One Way Rider - Albert Lee, Vince Gill & Danny Ga…: http://youtu.be/O8ljrPfsa50
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 16 May 2014 02:48 (ten years ago) link
Who does he sound like, though? I mean, you can definitely hear his influences sure, but no style?!? I think he's unsung because instrumental guitar music has not been popular in several decades, duh
― brimstead, Friday, 16 May 2014 02:50 (ten years ago) link
Also UMS in service of my endless attempts to get you into the shop to hang out, if you show up I'll play you a bunch of kottke live as a 17-19 year old, shit is nuts. I'll even throw in live fahey rambling on about the weird contents of his head, tuning forever, and then banging out crazy awesome 15 minute raga drones, rinse, repeat.
― Everyone is awful except you. Wait, no, you are also awful. (jjjusten), Friday, 16 May 2014 02:52 (ten years ago) link
honestly he sounds a lot like the dude on the right in that video (vince gill?)
― Doritos Loco Parentis (Hurting 2), Friday, 16 May 2014 02:53 (ten years ago) link
no
― brimstead, Friday, 16 May 2014 02:56 (ten years ago) link
Gatton was far from unsung in guitar nerd world in the late 80s, but no one outside of that cared much. Dude who knew him and worked on his fender signature guitar straight up told me that the depression/suicide was 100% based on realizing he was never going to escape that level, which is a huge bummer.
― Everyone is awful except you. Wait, no, you are also awful. (jjjusten), Friday, 16 May 2014 02:56 (ten years ago) link
Vince Gill can shred by the way. I had no idea til one of those crossroads shows. Brad Paisley his modern heir.
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 16 May 2014 02:58 (ten years ago) link
Gatton was also kind of the last of the Atkins/Clark/reed sorta dudes in country, super effortless.
http://youtu.be/ND2NFtImjlY
― Everyone is awful except you. Wait, no, you are also awful. (jjjusten), Friday, 16 May 2014 02:59 (ten years ago) link
Vince Gill & Brad Paisley - "Workin' Man Blues": http://youtu.be/-cm8hgoLc80
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 16 May 2014 03:02 (ten years ago) link
i wouldn't call vince gill unsung, though. his chops are the stuff of legend in nashville.
― fact checking cuz, Friday, 16 May 2014 03:08 (ten years ago) link
― Everyone is awful except you. Wait, no, you are also awful. (jjjusten), Thursday, May 15, 2014 10:56 PM (12 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
yeesh
― call all destroyer, Friday, 16 May 2014 03:10 (ten years ago) link
Yep
― Everyone is awful except you. Wait, no, you are also awful. (jjjusten), Friday, 16 May 2014 03:41 (ten years ago) link
That is extremely sad, but it's not exactly surprising that a guitarist's guitarist is never going to go beyond being a guitarist's guitarist, particularly if he plays in styles that are out of step with the pop music of the day. Seems similar to being a jazz musician or something, possible even a little better in that I bet he could play bigger venues than jazzers.
― Doritos Loco Parentis (Hurting 2), Friday, 16 May 2014 04:27 (ten years ago) link
Jeez guys, hate to interrupt this bring-down fest (I finally listened to a Danny Gatton record last year and couldn't latch on to it at all), but thread is seriously missing Guy Mann Dude
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4zEi3yXy_5g
― how's life, Friday, 16 May 2014 05:24 (ten years ago) link
Is Guy-Manuel de Homem-Christo from Daft Punk a hat-tip to this guy?
― how's life, Friday, 16 May 2014 05:26 (ten years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pIhoG6cS-3Y
Blues Saraceno
― how's life, Friday, 16 May 2014 05:38 (ten years ago) link
(later temporarily in Poison)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hH4hzTOxJVA
Richie Kotzen
― how's life, Friday, 16 May 2014 05:41 (ten years ago) link