thread for discussion of guitarists i have only heard of because i read guitar magazines in the late 90s

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Yep

That is extremely sad, but it's not exactly surprising that a guitarist's guitarist is never going to go beyond being a guitarist's guitarist, particularly if he plays in styles that are out of step with the pop music of the day. Seems similar to being a jazz musician or something, possible even a little better in that I bet he could play bigger venues than jazzers.

Doritos Loco Parentis (Hurting 2), Friday, 16 May 2014 04:27 (ten years ago) link

Jeez guys, hate to interrupt this bring-down fest (I finally listened to a Danny Gatton record last year and couldn't latch on to it at all), but thread is seriously missing Guy Mann Dude

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4zEi3yXy_5g

how's life, Friday, 16 May 2014 05:24 (ten years ago) link

Is Guy-Manuel de Homem-Christo from Daft Punk a hat-tip to this guy?

how's life, Friday, 16 May 2014 05:26 (ten years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pIhoG6cS-3Y

Blues Saraceno

how's life, Friday, 16 May 2014 05:38 (ten years ago) link

(later temporarily in Poison)

how's life, Friday, 16 May 2014 05:38 (ten years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hH4hzTOxJVA

Richie Kotzen

how's life, Friday, 16 May 2014 05:41 (ten years ago) link

(also temporarily in Poison)

how's life, Friday, 16 May 2014 05:41 (ten years ago) link

Marty Friedman / Jason Becker

calstars, Friday, 16 May 2014 07:50 (ten years ago) link

guitar player was the only one of these mags that ever covered anything cool, much to their credit

― call all destroyer, Thursday, May 15, 2014 10:05 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Hey now, Guitar magazine covered both REM and U2 when they were largely only listened to by kids who would get their asses kicked by the metalheads and fusion jazzbos who were the primary audiences. They tabbed "Can't Get There From Here" and "Sunday Bloody Sunday" in 1986 and 1987, respectively.

Diddley Hollyberry (Phil D.), Friday, 16 May 2014 11:54 (ten years ago) link

did these dudes all start learning to play the guitar at like four or something

goth colouring book (anagram), Friday, 16 May 2014 12:24 (ten years ago) link

This may be one of my favorite covers. Look at the transcriptions: YES! QUEENSRYCHE! THE WHO! JEFF BECK! The Beach Boys?

http://thumbs1.ebaystatic.com/d/l225/m/mCaPYrRogKGLLJe2aqK3zOA.jpg

Diddley Hollyberry (Phil D.), Friday, 16 May 2014 12:26 (ten years ago) link

can't forget michael angelo batio

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jOjHhJd70f4

how's life, Friday, 16 May 2014 12:32 (ten years ago) link

don't jazz ppl know joe pass? like, canonically? def a strange venn diagram between respected jazz musicians and guitar mag pillars

here's a full concert with ella fitzgerald (complete with inane+insane youtube commenters):

http://youtu.be/2olBE4C5_Gk

goole, Friday, 16 May 2014 13:35 (ten years ago) link

If we're just talking guitar, and not even '90s guitar, I know we've mentioned Paul Gilbert, but Racer X is what made my friend invoke the conflation "guitarded:"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q6i6Pbpc0z4

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 16 May 2014 13:37 (ten years ago) link

i know extreme had hits, but, nuno bettencourt

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ioBy875IEwM

goole, Friday, 16 May 2014 13:39 (ten years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rd02bE6o2Rs

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 16 May 2014 13:40 (ten years ago) link

This dude totally not widely known/mentioned:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wq2GqlFmNUk#t=15

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 16 May 2014 13:46 (ten years ago) link

(Except where he;s mentioned upthread, sorry)

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 16 May 2014 13:50 (ten years ago) link

beautiful shredding

call all destroyer, Friday, 16 May 2014 13:53 (ten years ago) link

Not 90s, but Guthrie Govan:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-yPEewaalik

29 facepalms, Friday, 16 May 2014 15:17 (ten years ago) link

that's pretty great!

calstars, Friday, 16 May 2014 15:26 (ten years ago) link

guthrie is awesome

Spottie, Friday, 16 May 2014 15:28 (ten years ago) link

I saw him at a club show recently, at the end he asked the audience for a show of hands of who was in a band. Everybody basically.

29 facepalms, Friday, 16 May 2014 15:37 (ten years ago) link

hhaha

Spottie, Friday, 16 May 2014 15:38 (ten years ago) link

yeah that was good! never heard of that guy.

call all destroyer, Friday, 16 May 2014 15:42 (ten years ago) link

that al dimeola video is everything the mars volta wished they could be.

festival culture (Jordan), Friday, 16 May 2014 15:54 (ten years ago) link

jazz fusion sounded so much better in the '70s.

festival culture (Jordan), Friday, 16 May 2014 15:54 (ten years ago) link

beautiful shredding sorta nails what i enjoy about this stuff, it's like gorgeous patterns of melodic gleaming shrapnel flying around

brimstead, Saturday, 17 May 2014 02:11 (ten years ago) link

i mean, the phrase "beautiful shredding"

brimstead, Saturday, 17 May 2014 02:12 (ten years ago) link

Shout out to Steve Kahn (is he too jazz for this thread?), far from a gimmicky guitar mag guy, but his solos tend to really bring that heavy euphoric escalator-to-heaven fusion guitar style

brimstead, Saturday, 17 May 2014 02:15 (ten years ago) link

Neil Zaza is p.big w/a few of the Guitar Center / South Korean Catholic CCM crossover ppl I know:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QadSVWXF_ks

etc, Saturday, 17 May 2014 23:54 (ten years ago) link

Holy crap I had no idea anyone outside Cleveland knew who Neil Zaza was. ZAZA was one of the biggest hair metal bands on the scene in the 80s.

Diddley Hollyberry (Phil D.), Sunday, 18 May 2014 00:00 (ten years ago) link

He should start an effects box company.

Zaza's Pedals.

overwhelmed with sweat (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Sunday, 18 May 2014 00:29 (ten years ago) link

jjjusten will buy

the glimmer man (Sufjan Grafton), Sunday, 18 May 2014 00:41 (ten years ago) link

btw. That dude is truly living the life. Buys all those pedals and it's his job.

the glimmer man (Sufjan Grafton), Sunday, 18 May 2014 00:42 (ten years ago) link

Mixin' business with lesrher

calstars, Sunday, 18 May 2014 00:58 (ten years ago) link

Leather ahem

calstars, Sunday, 18 May 2014 00:58 (ten years ago) link

I got these stonewashed tight jeans...this black t-shirt

calstars, Sunday, 18 May 2014 00:59 (ten years ago) link

Haha I actually have a neil zaza signature pedal in stock no lie. Purchase had exactly zero to do with association with Neil zaza, it's a repro of a long lost great dod pedal (yeah I know, but srsly) called the juice box.

http://www.mooeraudio.com/EN/news_show.asp?MsgID=66

Posts very much in character yes I know

O_O

how's life, Sunday, 18 May 2014 10:07 (ten years ago) link

for a while guitar player mag was the cool alternative to guitar mag. their johnny marr cover story was formative for me.

― fact checking cuz, Thursday, May 15, 2014 8:48 PM (14 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i found a ratty old copy of it somewhere when i was a kid, from the mid/late 80s and they actually did a story on the avant garde guitar scene! featured sonic youth, live skill, savage republic, rat at rar r, and bands like that - first exposure to any of that

― dollar rave club (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, May 15, 2014 9:04 PM (3 days ago)

I might still have this issue. Big story on Sonic Youth, with tunings and tablature, and a big annotated fold-out poster of famous players' guitar picks.
http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41fJ6z6Zg2L._SX258_BO1,204,203,200_.jpg
http://www.amazon.com/Guitar-Magazine-February-Improvisation-Painted/dp/B00I14TBWK

Mike Dixn, Sunday, 18 May 2014 11:03 (ten years ago) link

Zaza's Pedals.
― overwhelmed with sweat (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Saturday, May 17, 2014 7:29 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Lol

dollar rave club (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Sunday, 18 May 2014 12:24 (ten years ago) link

Hmm, I guess the tuning and tab for Teenage Riot would be cool to know.

calstars, Sunday, 18 May 2014 15:45 (ten years ago) link

Guitar (formerly 'For the Practicing Musician') in the 90s did jizz a lot over these dudes (and I remember being all 'uhhh ok' whenever I heard any of it), but tbf they always gave equal credit to up and coming bands that wrote interesting music and weren't really flashy. I remember them giving Crowbar's "Time Heals Nothing" a pretty glowing review.

but then they'd review the latest Toto and whine that in the midst of a glossy pop album that Lukather wasn't lighting up the fretboard more and you're like "...ohhhh welcome back, Guitar".

getting strange ass all around the globe (Neanderthal), Sunday, 18 May 2014 16:49 (ten years ago) link

Hmm, I guess the tuning and tab for Teenage Riot would be cool to know.

one of the first things i did after getting access to 90s Usenet was print out a table of known Sonic Youth guitar tunings. i showed it to a guy i knew who said that SY were "pretentious" for tuning their guitars differently - this guy was a huge Dylan fan as well haha

( X '____' )/ (zappi), Sunday, 18 May 2014 18:02 (ten years ago) link

http://www.sonicyouth.com/mustang/tab/teenage_riot.txt

calstars, Sunday, 18 May 2014 18:21 (ten years ago) link


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